July 27, 2017 | Author: Alexandra Björn | Category: N/A
THE LAY REPORTS
Compiled By Sinn
Introduction Hey guys, In my five years in the community, I have read a lot of posts. I would venture to say that I have spent THOUSANDS of hours reading every article out there on dating science. But the posts that I learned the most from were all breakdowns of guys going out and getting success. They were lay reports. But I had to search for years on the internet to find the best ones. This book is, in many ways, what I wish I had when I got started all those years ago. Lay reports are, in my humble opinion, the best way to get a feel for how pick-ups happen in the real world. All the reports contained within these pages represent the best of the best. These are the ones that I personally have learned from. I scoured the deep regions of the internet to find not only these reports, but also some of the most amazing pick-up artists in the world, including some of whom you may never have heard of until today. Before I end this intro, I want to talk to you guys about how to use this book to improve your game. This book is broken up into sections. There will be a section on dates, same night lays, threesomes, bathroom lays, day game and more. Each lay report will have my commentary in red. The commentary is meant to bring attention to the most important parts of the report: the things that actually work. Many of you have learned about the 80/20 rule. The 80/20 rule simply states that 80 % of your results come from 20% of your actions. My goal in creating this book is to draw attention to the most important 20% of actions that ‘ causesuccess in dating science. Lastly, at the end of each section, there wi l lbeawr i t eupont het ypeofr epor t syou’ vej ustr eadandsomekeypoi nt s to remember when trying to reproduce these results in your own game. This book is meant to be read over and over until you internalize all the routines, attitudes, structure and logistics necessary to get laid in any situation. Enjoy,
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Table of Contents WHO IS SINN? My Story:........................................................................................................................................ 5 DATES What is a Date? .............................................................................................................................. 7 LR - Fumbled then recovered the pen: Sinn .................................................................................. 7 LR - Alyssa Milano and the No-Look Pass: Shawn Messenger ..................................................... 10 LR - HowT oe c ut t er ’ spa l mr ea di ngr out i neg otmel a i d:S a v oy.................................................. 15 LR - Cold Approaches in South Florida: Brad P ............................................................................ 23 LR - 2F closes in one day (Chicago Bootcamp) ............................................................................. 41 LR - 22 year old Sorority President Babe...................................................................................... 43 LR - Cute 18 year old AI: Jdog....................................................................................................... 45 LR - Day2 The CaptainJack Way ................................................................................................... 62 LR - Day Game German Girl: Doc HoLLIDAY................................................................................. 65 LR - Virgin ONS: Entropy............................................................................................................... 69 Dates, Broken Down by Sinn........................................................................................................ 75 Kissing on Dates ........................................................................................................................... 78 SAME NIGHT LAYS LR - CaptainJack blows up a car: CaptainJack .............................................................................. 80 LR - Drunk Rednecks: Captain Jack............................................................................................... 83 LR - CaptainJack Gives HBTeacher a Lesson in Takeaways .......................................................... 91 LR - I have to pee! Captain Jack ................................................................................................... 96 LR - Captain Jack and Sinn do Dallas .......................................................................................... 101 LR - “ L ook sa r enotenoug h”A3r out i ne.................................................................................... 105 LR - Sunburst 2007-Jan-7: Captain Jack...................................................................................... 106 My Original Post on Microcalibration ........................................................................................ 106 LR - Promotor Girl (Difficult Pull): Brad P ................................................................................... 114 Build Attraction Break Rapport-AFC Adam Lyons...................................................................... 122
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Most Gangster Pull Ever!: Sinn .................................................................................................. 127 What happened in New York?: Sinn .......................................................................................... 130 LR - More things that happened in NY....................................................................................... 133 LR - Kareoke til Sunrise: Sinn...................................................................................................... 133 LR - Fear the Stache: Sinn........................................................................................................... 136 LR - X 2 Back to back: Sinn.......................................................................................................... 139 LR - 1 to tie 2 to lead... Fuck CJ! 2 to tie 3 to lead: Sinn............................................................. 141 Hola PUAs,.................................................................................................................................. 145
THREESOMES and IN VENUE LAYS LR - Orchestrating my first threesome: Entropy ........................................................................ 154 Cold Approach............................................................................................................................ 168 LR - Banged Model in Club Bathroom: Brad P ........................................................................... 168 Female Truism/Cold Read.......................................................................................................... 173 Br a dP’ sConv er s i onCha r tRoutine: ........................................................................................... 173 Some Analysis ............................................................................................................................ 179 LR - Jizz Shoe Brad: Brad P ......................................................................................................... 180 LR - SNL BDSM in a Bathroom: Doc Holliday.............................................................................. 185 BJR - Wanna watch me jerk off in the bathroom: Sinn.............................................................. 191 In Venue Lays Breakdown .......................................................................................................... 193
DAY GAME and INTERNET He Said/She Said: A Perfect Pickup and Both Sides of the Story: Shawn Messenger................ 197 Field Report: Bringing out the Devil in Angel: In10se ................................................................ 205 Day Game Breakdown................................................................................................................ 209 What is online game?................................................................................................................. 213 Online Game Breakdown ........................................................................................................... 224 My 5 Rules of Online Game........................................................................................................ 226
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WHO IS SINN? A lot of you may be wondering who I am and where I came from. So I want to start this book off with a little bit of my story and how I came to be.
MY STORY: By popular demand, here is the story of my journey through the bizarre world of the community. I actually found the community sometime around ‘ 98. Maybe ‘ 99, but all I did was read about it. I actually thought it was really weird. I was in high school at the time, and I read all the stuff about not supplicating, etc. That was good but too late for me to apply it in high school. I was not good with girls, at all. I was really jealous of the guys who were, and so I pretended to have a girlfriend at another school. I also had a group of friends who had a reputation for trying to get with girls and failing miserably. Looking back on high school, I always thought I was marginally popular; but in retrospect, we were the losers at the party. I had no sexual experiences until I was 17, and I had sex with a girl whom I had met on AOL after buying the DYD e-book and practicing some of that stuff. Then I had two years of unintentional celibacy. During that time I met Barrie, whom I dated on and off for about three years. We didn’ thavesext houghunt i l2005after I was already helping on workshops and had stopped dating her. It was possibly the worst relationship of all time. We broke up, she lost her virginity to another guy after not having sex with me for the nine months we were dating, and I took her back after t hat … Looki ngbacknow, I j ustt hi nki t ’ shyst er i cal ,especially since she is now engaged and still calls me wanting t ohavesex… So around 2003, I dropped out of my group of loser friends whose idea of fun was playing pool and complaining about not getting girls while not approaching. Their names were Ron and Gabe. I then started to approach at the mall. I did 7 approaches a day, 7 days a week from late 2003 until sometime in 2005 after I had taken a TMM program. It took me 6 months of
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doing approaches EVERY day to get my first lay. Her name was Katie, and I met her at the Northridge Mall with the wheelchair opener. After that, I started to get it. Things started to click, and I could get attraction really well. I also started to get a new lay every month or so. But I had MAJOR flaking problems. So I took the DYD “ Onbei ngamanpr ogr am” and “ SexualCommuni cat i on.”There I met TD for the first time along with a couple of other guys. Then in October, I took a TMM program with Mystery, Savoy and Lovedrop. I learned a shitload. I had asked David D if I could intern for him and had gotten the run around. But when I asked Savoy, he was only too happy to get free labor. So I started interning for the company around this time. This was back when I did recruiting for Abercrombie. So then I started to really rack up the lays. It was a combination of day game and girls I gamed at A&F. Then I went out with Savoy a few times to do day game which led to me getting a chance to help out on a program in December of that year. I made it very clear that I was not an instructor, but I learned a lot again. Then I did a few more programs helping out and had my big moment at a Vegas boot camp; it was a mixed four set. I was wearing a STUPID top hat, and I ended up pulling the girl up to her room and closing at the end of program. It was after this that I finally started to feel like I was good. I taught a gazillion more programs that year and ended up talking at Cliff’ s list. I had arrived. Then I started to build a name for myself as I had tons of great boot camp sets. I had back to back lays in Boston and went three for three i nLA… So when Mystery retired the first time from teaching workshop in ’ 05, I was one of the first guys to teach a TMM program without Mystery. AndI ’ vebeendoi ng that ever since. Since then,I ’ vet aught about 100 programs including one on ones, stripper game, and, my specialty, daygame.I ’ veal sot aughtand mentored The Don, Future, Tenmagnet, El Topo, and others. And I guessi nt hepr ocessoft hatI ’ vebecomeaccept edasoneoft hebest in the worl datt hi s.I ’ venow beenwi t hmor ewoment hatI could have EVER imagined I would be with, and I know that meeting women is NEVER going to be a problem for me ever again. Sot hat ’ smyst or y.I probably came from a lot lower of a place than most people since I was really young without an established identity or money or even the maturity of someone in their 30s. But I consider myself proof that if I PAGE:
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candot hi s,t henANYONEcan.I t ’ sj ustamatter of how much you want it and how muchyou’ r ewi l l i ngt ogot hrough.
DATES: WHAT IS A DATE? Before we can get into the Lay Reports (LRs) we should to define a date. A dat edoesn’ tmeanyout ookhert oanexpensi vedi nnerort oamovi e.I nst ead it means that you are on a second (or third) meeting with a woman. All the reports contained within this section deal with second (or more) meetings, and the ways different guys use dates to get laid. At the end of this section, there will be an article breaking down what to do on dates to make sure they end in sex.
LR - FUMBLED THEN RECOVERED THE PEN: SINN FUCK! Last night, I was out with Fidelio in my hood, drinking and chilling. I did a couple of approaches but was more out to catch up with Fidelio as he's been out of the loop for awhile, and I missed hanging with him. We bounce around a couple of bars where I'm proofed by the staff. And we end up at my favorite dive bar of all time. We're in there, and I get opened by a guy telling me he thinks my hair is hot. He was wearing a shirt that said brown eyes on it, and Fidelio and I made a number of jokes as to the meaning of that as he walked off. I go to the bathroom, and when I return, Fidelio is talking to a hot brunette. I hang back for a bit until I get opened by her friend. She's blonde, young, hot and doesn't have big boobs. (But she has a smoking body, and I want to do really dirty things to her. We start bantering. I use you and I are not going to get along, and shockingly, I don't get busted for using VH1 material! I pull her hair; she bites her lip. She's there with some friends from work, and they are UBER chodes. I push her onto them. I whisper in her ear that
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he'd be perfect for her. He tries to move her to the couch, and I physically push her toward him ... She invites me to come with her… I relent, and we sit down on the couches. The brunette joins us, and I run strawberry fields on the blonde and talk bitter gibberish with the brunette. The brunette falls into one of my categories that I rock with: bitter sarcastic girls. If I can be bitter and make fun of other people in the club, I'm almost unstoppable, but I wanted the blonde. I start qualifying, and she's jumping through everything. I start breakthrough comfort talk about how things happen for a reason. I usually don't do #s, but I have framed it sexually and eliminated obstacles so I need her # in case a freak situation kills the pull. I bridge her to get high on Sun and go see SuperBad. This is the greatest # close of my life... I decide it's time to roll, and I say the very clever pull line "you ready to get out of here?" She goes to the bathroom, and then calls me when she's outside. We walk into my building when she says her ride is at the bar across the street... It's 1:30, I don't want to deal with obstacles, and I'm kinda dreezed so I just say I'll walk her there... Then she tries to make out with me, and I dodge... I tell her we're not doing the goodnight kiss. Then she kisses me anyway. Note to girls: No means no. It doesn't mean you can kiss me... I text her when I get home, and she texts back... We've been going back and forth all day today. Here are some highlights:
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I tell her she's sexy, smart and a huge dork. She replies: that pretty much wraps it up; you nailed it. Oh, funny side note, she's begging me to call her as I walk her to her ride. I say "I really want to have sex with you so of course I'm going to call you! But, even if we don't, you're awesome, and I want us to be friends...” So everyone can laugh at me for fumbling the pen. Especially after I mercilessly ripped Future all weekend after the Asian fumbling that he ultimately closed. So everyone can laugh at me, especially Future. Ed’ sNot e: After this, I tried to get her out three straight times, and she flaked all three times. The following is a separate blog post from when we met up by accident at a bar. I r eal l ydi dn’ twantt ogooutt hatni ght , but this lay ended up being a nice present for forcing myself to go out. I'm writing this as HB Fumbled Pen is lying on my couch snoring louder than I have ever heard a human being snore. Rewind to 7 and Twitchy. I hit a happy hour for a society in Dallas only to see that it's two hot girls and 278 guys. The bar is empty, and they have free drinks and calamari. After a quick drink and some free squid, we bounce to another happy hour place before going to dinner. I number close a hostess there, but I don't qualify at all, and she doesn't return my text later. Twitchy drops me off, and I decide whether to go out or stay in. I have a headache, a stomachache and don't want to go out... Fuck. I text Twitchy "wanna go out?" He replies, "On the fence, up to you." I have to decide... I didn't go out yesterday or the day before and, yeah, I was sick. But I've gamed sick before... And I know I won't be going out tomorrow as Future has to have an early night... I decide to go out, and we hit the mysterious venue. We run into Vector and the cuisinart that Topo, I and Vector have all fucked now. I open some sets that go pretty well, but then I run into HB Fumbled Pen. She's there with a friend. I say hi and go back to gaming. My set needs a jealousy plot so I roll into HB Fumbled Pen's set. It's super on. The most important point of this whole interaction was when I used her as a jealousy plotline. This means simply that I was talking to another group of girls, and I did a takeaway to talk to HB Fumbled Pen and her friends. I was
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initially just using HB Fumbled Pen for jealousy, but when I was in the group she was so attracted by the social proof, I decided to investigate logistics. Handling logistics will always be the most under-looked aspect of pick-up. You must determine where you can get intimate with the girl, and get her there in the smoothest way possible. The magical questions for logistics are: What ’ sont heagendaf orl at er ? How do you get here? What do you have to do tomorrow? I'm winning over her friends, and Twitchy bounces. I see a pull across the street. She and her friend want to dance and ask me to watch them. I decline and chill with Vector for a bit. I go looking for Fumbled Pen, and she's nowhere to be found. I text her and ask if she left. She's across the street. I roll in and see her with a new guy. I go talk to both of them. I tease the shit out of her about wearing his glasses and him saying they looked good. He leaves, and I talk to her about her life. I tell her she’ st oodr unkt odr i ve( a lie) so I tell her she has to come to my place across the street. We cuddle, and I go up her dress once, no go. Second time no go. Third time, it's on ... and I close her. It all goes to show that you will never get laid just staying home. But if you go out, sometimes you get lucky.
LR - ALYSSA MILANO AND THE NO-LOOK PASS: SHAWN MESSENGER Shawn Messenger was the lead instructor for Pickup 101 before leaving to form his own company, LV03.com. Shawn specializes in masculinity and direct game. If you aren't bragging about the fun things you have done with women, you are missing out. It's way more important to celebrate your success than it is to dwell on your mistakes. Whatever you think about is what you do.
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So today, I'm going to share a story from a fun night in my life... involving a very fun girl. We are men after all. We live the experience to tell the story. Here's one of mine: It's a warm night in San Francisco. I'm at a famously swanky little lounge in a famously swanky part of town. Kind of place where women bust out the little black dress with the total intent to get noticed and have guys buy them drinks. I walk in and move immediately across the bar to start with my favorite move ... locate girls at the bar and ask them if I can get in to get a drink. I see a lone hottie sitting at the bar with a bag next to her. I start talking. Move bag. Sit down. Flirt back and forth. She's leaning in, eyes sparkling, laughing at every joke. Good times all around. She starts telling me about her boyfriend who manages this bar. I'm now thinking that is a dude I do NOT want to get on the bad side of... and how perfect if I can get in with her and the man on the scene. This is the RIGHT way to think. Instead of being annoyed that she has a BF or even worse ashamed that he was flirting with her, Shawn sees an opportunity to increase his social value. (A complete abundance mentality.) Suddenly, another girl comes walking right up, hugs her, and then turns to look at me saying:
Girl: "You're in my seat." Now, girl #1 is cute, but this girl is a sassier version of Alyssa Milano: Long dark hair, tiny body, great boobs, great smile ... Tommy likey.
I reply: "It's our seat now darling. I'm all about sharing." She smiles and walks right into me (I'm sitting on a barstool facing her and her friend with my legs apart) and says: "OK, but I always get to go first."
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IT IS ON! Fast forward a bit. Girl #1's boyfriend shows up. We give a pound; I tell him these girls are just wearing me out with all their flirting and I'm so glad he showed up to help. He says he has to keep working, and now it's on me to keep them busy. Basically, this is Jake Ryan giving Farmer Ted the keys to the Rolls. He moves on, and I take the two by the hand to the back of the bar where they have little curtained-off rooms. We get back there, and instantly one outof-his-tree Australian dude comes up with two drinks in hand for Alyssa saying, "I told you I'd get you a drink. Here it is." I take them, thank him, and tell her to tell him how sweet that is. She's eye-coding me with a *why is this drunk still here* look, but I just chat and occupy him and send him on his way, with my arm around Alyssa the whole time. We sit in the booth; me, her and her friend, when suddenly up pops another dude. A big bald guy who’ sagood 74 inches, good-looking, loud, a muy macho Bruce Willis type, but not muy macho like me, amigo. :)
I pop right up and say, "What's up man? I'm Sean. God damn, are these girls trouble. I'm so glad you're here to help." It ’ sver yi mpor t antt ot easegirls whenever a new person comes into the group. The reason is so that it lets the new person know you’ r enotcr eepyor desperate. He introduces himself and gives the girls a big hug.
Then asks: "What are you drinking? I'm buying." Alyssa turns to me and asks, "What do you want?" I say: "That's so sweet of you to ask to buy me something, but he offered first." I tell Bruce I'll have a Bud. Alyssa busts me saying, that's so gay and only gay guys drink Bud.
I say, "Damn straight! Just the gayest for me,"
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Then I spank her on the ass. Her friend busts up laughing. When Bruce returns with drinks, we all sit. Then I pull Alyssa up to stand with me next to the spot. We lean against the wall and talk ... Low, quiet, and intense! I tell her why I moved here. How after losing the girl that I thought was ‘ the one, ’I knew I needed to go live life as fully as I could. She tells me about her family. We don't talk much, or that deep, but it feels like more. I keep her next to me. Tell her she has amazing lips, and that our first kiss will be a great one.
She says, "You are so confident." and smiles. Ask her about her favorite body part, and she says her ass is world-class. I spin her around to check, feel, and confirm.
Then remind her, "It's nice, but not quite as nice as mine." She smiles. I lean in and sniff her neck, whispering how she smells delicious and begin nibbling her neck. I feel her body go limp against mine. I stay there for weeks. Stand up. No kiss ... too public! Little more talk and suddenly her friend pops up.
Friend: "We need girl talk." I fumble a bit, snapped out of the moment. "Uh, OK. You guys have your girl talk. Seriously, I need to go hang with my friends. You monopolized all my time." I go back to the front of the bar and chat up everyone I can find. Practice talking to groups with guys in them by walking up to guys and girls and saying to him.
"Dude, I know you know this, but this girl is trouble." Then turn to the girl and say, "Yeah you. You were supposed to watch out for me tonight. Then those two midget strippers were all over me, and where were you?"
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This is a fun opener for mixed sets. Remember that confusion causes attraction. Great fun! Always gets me in with the girl and confuses the hell out of the guys. So I circulate and check back on Alyssa. Gone. Look around back. Nope. Check front. Nothing! KHHHHAAAAAANNNNN! I am so pissed at myself. We were vibing so well. I totally forgot logistics: her friend, other guys, and the general chaos of a hoping bar in general. Always get some close early, just in case. Damn it. I acted all casual and now she's gone. And that real, solid, sexual connection just poof! Up in smoke. You always want to get a girl’ s phone number 25 minutes in. That way, if there are logistical problems or you lose track of her, you can still call. So I game a little more, but I'm bummed. It was just a stupid fuck-up on my part. So I walk outside to lean against the wall and smoke pensively. Chat with some other dudes out there and tell them the story about the one that got away. Suddenly a flash in front of me, it's Alyssa, being led out by Bruce Willis. Here's the sweet part. He sees me and deftly moves her to his outside so he's in-between me and her. Nice footwork for a big dude. Now she sees me ... and waves her arm behind his back. There's something in her hand. I reach out without looking and take it. She no-look passed me her card. Dude had no idea. So what happened? Call her card on the Monday following (work card). Chat her up at work. Fun, sexy banter. She's fun. Can't connect schedules for two weeks. Finally set up a date. She drives across Bay to meet at my house. She arrives. Fucking dolled up. Just a lovely, lovely girl. I pick her up in a hug and tell her she smells great.
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We walk inside, so I can get my jacket. She pets my cute dogs and says hi to my room-mate. We walk out along the flower-lined street to a local pub to watch hockey (she loves the Sharks). I stop at one point and pin her against the wall and sniff her hair... then pull back and just look. She can't take it. She reaches up to pull me in for a kiss. I stop her... wait one second, then pull her back for a kiss. Yep, nothing better than a goodnight kiss at the start of the date. The rest? Watch the game. Drink beers. Chat with all my friends in the bar. All my friends and bartenders hit on her and call her gorgeous. We walk home. I pull her into my room to show her something. Cue up end scene from Scrooged where Bill Murray is explaining the meaning of Christmas. Turn lights off, close door tight. No questions, no qualms. Behind closed doors. A gentleman never tells. :-) She is a lovely girl; definite keeper material. Lessons learned: Always be on point with everyone. Seduce the room and the ones you really want will just end up with you. Keep your head up and keep at it because when it's working, nothing can stop it. And use every other guy as just another ally to make it clear that you, and only you, are the best man for her.
To learn more about Shawn Messenger, check out www.LV03.com
LR - HOW TOECUTTER’ S PALM READING ROUTINE GOT ME LAID: SAVOY Savoy is the writer of Magic Bullets as well as the owner and CEO of LoveSyst ems.Her e’ shi sbi of r om t hel ovesyst emssi t e. Nick (Savoy) is President and CEO of Love Systems Corporation and is the author of Magic Bullets, our "bible" of dating science and social dynamics. He loves adventure and a challenge. After college, he traveled the world for several years, managing international businesses in Europe, the Middle East, and South Africa.
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He started by gambling at backgammon for food and travel money across Turkey and finished by helping raise financing in Slovakia for Europe's most promising low-cost airline, Sky Europe. He has an MBA from Wharton and an Honors Degree in History from McGill University in Montreal. Love Systems Corp. is just one of his successful startups, several coming before the age of 30. He has also consulted several Fortune 500 companies around the world on business strategy.
Based on transcribing a voice mail I left myself. I left my voice mail on and tried to remember what the chicks were saying. Props to Toecutter's palm reading routine, which I get into once I'm well into the FR. True disciples of this, or any other routine, will be disappointed. I brutally amend stuff so it's easier to do. Props, of course to everyone else since this is almost all canned material and props to Lovedrop for actually showing me how to use the material. Anyway, I don't usually do palms, because I associate that with sleazy PU tactics. And because I usually use a shortened version of the cube as a bridge to go from f2m attract straight through m2f attract. [I make her tell me how right I was from 1-10; it's almost always a 9 or 10. I get the cheek kiss, and then I say it's not like my first impression of her at all. Then I make up a bad first impression that reflects her insecurities and say I'm a lot more curious about her now. Then i t ’ si nt ocomf or t ]Doing the cube and doing palm reading felt like overkill. But on Tuesday, I was trying some new stuff out. I approach a set of three girls (an 8, a 7, a 6) and one drunk guy. The guy (he wasn't an AMOG, just a tool) was kind of cuddly with the HB8. Didn't matter. I was testing new stuff. The opener here is really long. I felt like I had to make it long while I was trying to figure out what the drunk guy was about.
S a v oy : “ He yg uy s . . . GUYS! ”[They were ignoring me the first time]. S a v oy : “ We're having this serious conversation over there, and we need another opinion. I know this is a bar and everything, but this is probably going to affect the rest of our lives. Are you guys ready
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to answer a really important question?”[ Good example of what to doi ft hes etdoe s n’ tr es pondr i g hta wa yhe r e. ] Drunk Guy: “ He yma n, wher ey ouf r om? ” Savoy: “ Okay, so here it is: dental floss. Do you brush before flossing or floss before brushing? ” Drunk Guy: “ Bro, that's an awesome line!” Savoy [to DrunkGuy ] :“ Hey, I didn't come over here for blank looks and I don't know. You guys don't brush y ourt ee t h? ” B6, B7, B8: [Start talking about this. I don't usually listen here; just try to pick up cues on BL and plan what comes next] Savoy: “ Yeah cool, thanks.” Drunk guy: “ Where you f r om? ” Savoy: “ What? Nah, doesn't matter. I was born in Montreal."[Turn back] Drunk guy: “ Do you say eh? a f t ere v er y t hi ng ? “ Savoy: “ Hey, while I'm here... I want to get a female opinion on s ome t hi ng . ”I turn to look back at crowd where my friends presumably are. If my friends come over here, we're not talking about thi s , ok a y ?“ Woul da nyofy oug uy sdate a friend of your exboyfriend?” Good example of stacking openers. Generally, youdon’ twantt ost ackt wo opinion openers back to back like this. Butbecausehedi dn’ taskf oran opinion the first time, he can now ask for another opinion without being the opinion guy.
Chi c k s : “ I forget what they were saying. Doesn't matter, but it's usually no. It doesn't matter what they say although this opener sometimes gives a clue if a chick has a boyfriend, because sometimes they'll say things like I am." Thi si sani mpor t antpoi ntf ort hosewhouseopi ni onopener s.I tdoesn’ t mat t erwhatt hegi r l st hi nkaboutt heopi ni onquest i on.I t ’ sj ustawayt ost ar t a conversation. I see so many students have twenty minute conversations about jealous girlfriends or whether men or women lie more. The opinion here PAGE:
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doesn’ tmat t er . So you can ignore it and continue with the rest of your opener or move the conversation to a different topic.
Savoy: “ Cool. Thanks. [turn to leave], [turn back] Well, okay, how long doy ouha v et owa i t ? ” Savoy: [Keep looking at chicks. My guess - wrong as it turned out - is that this guy had drunkenly wandered over to them and was buying them drinks. Befriending him would have just lowered my status with them.] This is key: You always want to ask how everyone knows each other right after the opener whenyouopenmi xedset s.Youhavet of i gur eoutwhatt hegi r l ’ sr el at i onshi p is with any guy in the set as it affects how you are going to game her.
Chicks: “ Never! ”[At least one of them said never, I forget what the rest said.] Savoy: “ Oh my God. You guys are terrible. I come over here with an argument, and youg uy st a k emyf r i end' ss i de ! ” [Starting to put the bait on] HB7: “ You have to decide if your friendship is worth more than this girl. “ [ t ookba i t ] Savoy: “ No, that's not the way it is. [look back to friends], [pause] Okay, I'll tell you the story really quick, but then I have to get back to them. You guys have to be quick, okay? So I was having a party last Friday [Sitting down as I talk, between HBs7 and 6.], and my exgirlfriend was there. My friends know I've been trying to set her up for a while, but one of my friends who likes her says she was being we i r d. ” Drunk guy: “ Doy ous a yeh?after everything?” Savoy: [talking over him] “ Because he's my friend. But I don't think a girl would feel weird about dating her ex's friends, do you? I mean, I'd love it if they got together. He's a super guy. I've known him since I was 6, and she's a cool girl. She used to model, and she's in l a ws c hool now. ” Chicks: “ Did you break upwi t hherorwha t ? ”
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Savoy: I only broke up with her because I thought we did better as friends than as a girlfriend...hey...you guys [point at B7 and B6] are making...the exact same...facial expressions. Chicks HB7 and 6: “ We're roommates.” Savoy: “ Oh my god. And like every time I ask you guy’ s something you like turn to look at each other real quick.” Best Friends Test
Chicks: [laughing] Savoy: “ You're like little powerpuff girls. Like, if I didn't have to go right now, I would totally [pause] adopt you guys. [pause] I would dress [pause] [point to HB6] you in a red...PVC...DEVIL costume with a pitchfork...and horns…and bitch boots. [pause for laughter] And you, point to HB7] I'd give you a white angel outfit [pause] with halo...and wings. And we'd roll down the street, and every time there was a decision to be made, you guys would argue over what's most fun. And whatever is the most fun thing to do, we'll dot ha t . ” TD’ sAngel / Devi lRoleplay
HB7 and 6: [laughing] Savoy: “ Pinky swear. ”[do pinky swear] HB8: “ Wha twoul dy oudr es smea s ? ” Savoy: “ Comeher e , l etmes e ey ou. ”[HB8 gets up from beside the guy and walks over to the other end of the table.] Savoy: “ Hey, stop. Show me your hand again?” HB8: [shows hand] Savoy: “ Oh my god. “ [long eye contact] HB8: “ What?!? “ Savoy: “ Your palm. It's like…forget it. Hey guys, [back to the other HBs] Is your friend really outgoing?”(A good example of a baiting here.)
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HB6 and 7: [laughs] Savoy: “ Yeah, I can see that. See, everything's written on your palm. Like, from birth. [To HB6 and 7] Sowher ea r ey out wof r om? ” [Notice that I'm leaving the HB8 standing there beside me, away from the drunk guy…who's probably STILL asking me if I say "eh" after everything…. while re-engaging her friends and making them laugh] HB8: “ You read palms? Oh my god, I l ov et ha t . Rea dmypa l m? ” Savoy: [ pa us e]“ Wait your turn. [To HB6 and 7] Is she always like this? [To HB8] Alright, alright, but then I really gotta go, okay?”(Two good teases) HB8: “ Ok” Savoy: “ Ok, relax your fingers. Relax. I'm going to explain this to you first so that you know where we're going....this is your head line. This is your life line. This is your heart line. Most of the time, that's where most of the interesting things show up. But what caught my attention about you are a couple of the more advanced lines. See, here's your line of fate. Yours stops straight at the head line. I'm going out on a limb here, but it feels to me like that when you were a kid....or even a teenager...something happened. Something made you grow up really fast or become an adult before you were ready.“ (This is a great cold read that can make girls cry when done correctly.) HB8: “ Ohmyg od. ” Savoy: “ That must hav ebee nr ea l l yha r d. ”[ pause] Savoy: “ But look at it this way. I can see that you're obviously a very passionate person inside. You try to hide it a lot, and I can relate to that. But deep inside that shell, you're a deeply emotional person a r e n' ty ou? ” HB8: “ Oh my god.”[This was pretty much all she was saying.] Savoy: “ And since that goes straight to your love line, that's where we'll go next. See, when you were a little girl, you wanted a Prince Charming. And you always thought a Prince Charming would just walk into your life without you having to do anything and everything would just feel so perfect. You know that feeling you still sometimes get PAGE:
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when something just feels so right, like right after you make a big decision or the moment you realize that you're with the right pe r s on? ” HB8: “ Yeah. Oh my god. But how do you find the right person? How do you find someone like that?” Savoy: “ But your problem...here...is that you have a caged heart. [Make cage over her heart. She holds and squeezes my hand when it's on her chest. I pull back, maybe not the right thing to do] It's like bars on a jail cell sometimes. You don't let people in easily, but once they're in, they're in forever. Even if you had your Prince Charming right in front of you, you might not know what to do or how to get his attention. ” HB8: “ Oh my God.” Savoy: “ You know that feeling of seeing something - like a piece of clothing or an apartment or a friend - for the first time but being so curious about it? Just knowing in the back of your mind that it's right, even if part of you is afraid to admit it? You have a good intuition, buty oudon' ta l wa y sf ol l owi t . ” HB8: “ Ohmy God.” Savoy: “ And l ook , y ou' r ef er t i l e ! ” HB8: “ What?” Savoy: “ See these l i ne sont hes i deofy ourha nd? ” HB8: “ My friend told me that you can see how many children you'll have . ” Savoy: “ That's not t hewa ywedi di ti nmyf a mi l y . ” HB8: “ That was so amazing.” Savoy: “ On a scale from 1-10, howr i g htwa sI ? ” HB8: “ L i k ea9. 5” Savoy: “ Cool.”[point at cheek] [cheek kiss] HB8: “ Wha t ' sy ourna me ? ” HB6 and 7: “ We have to go.” Savoy: “ Youg oi ngba c kt oPBBa r&Gr i l l ? ” PAGE:
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HBs: “ Yeah.” Savoy: “ Awesome. [ToHB8]T a k ec a r e, ok a y ? ” HB8: “ But what if I nev e rs eey oua g a i n? ” Savoy: “ Is that a hint?”[pause] Savoy: “ I dunno. I don't like taking numbers at bars. And you're drunk, you'll be weird tomorrow.” This is a good false takeaway on the phone number exchange. It makes the girl argue for why you should take her number. The more people work for things, the more they value it.
HB8: “ No, I won't. I promise I won' t . ” Savoy: “ Well....ok, I'll make you a deal.” HB8: “ What?” Savoy: “ I'll take your number if you make me promise.” HB8: “ Wha t ' st ha t ? ” Savoy: “ When I call, I don't want you to be like "oh hi!" I want you to be like "oh my god, Savoy, I'm so glad you called. We're going to go out and have a great time." HB8: “ Okay.” Savoy: “ And you hav et oa ns weront hef i r s tr i ng . ” HB8: “ What if I'm not near the phone? I'm out from 3 to 7 tomorrow.” Savoy: “ I'll call you at 2:30. Pinky swear.”[grab pinkies] Because of the logistics, I briefly contemplated flaking on the call, but decided it wasn't necessary. She got it on the second ring, we made plans for that night, and it all worked out Another good idea: Telling the girl when you’ r egoi ngt ocal lhersoshecanexpectt hecal landbe around her phone. You can also call five minutes later to make her wait a bit and build value.
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This report is from late 2004/ear l y2005.Savoy’ sgamehasgot t enmuch better since this report. To learn more about Savoy go to www.lovesystems.com.
LR - COLD APPROACHES IN SOUTH FLORIDA: BRAD P Our next LR comes from the amazing Brad P of BradPpresents.com. Brad is an amazing Innovator as well as one of the bestguysI ’ veseeni nf i el d. The legendary Brad P began his journey to mastery in 2004 by spending 7 days a week going out, meeting women and learning from the greatest Naturals ever to walk the earth. Already being an expert in psychology and philosophy, he quickly developed a reliable, repeatable method for meeting, attracting, seducing, and dating top tier women anywhere his travels took him. By 2005, word of Brad's success had spread so quickly that he began teaching "The Underground Dating Seminar" in the top floor of a pizza place in New York City. After only a few weeks of classes, the good news was spreading faster still, and men would travel from hundreds of miles away to attend the seminars. From these humble beginnings, a movement took root that would reach far corners of the globe. In 2006, Brad was discovered by "The Seduction Community" and gave lectures at the "Cliff's List Convention." He would later be interviewed by other seduction community legends such as David DeAngelo, The Mystery Method, Pickup 101, and David Shade. Brad soon added more coaches to the roster and made his teaching available worldwide on audio CDs. We're pleased to report that Brad's seminar CDs have been ordered and listened to in more than 100 countries. As the body of dating and seduction literature has continued to mature, Brad has turned his attention to developing the most efficient and effective methods for teaching men to succeed with women. In his latest report on the state of dating literature, Brad states: The race to come up with the best system for picking up women is over. It's been over for years. In the year 2008, there exists a multitude of internally consistent systems for seducing and dating women. The problem is that most of the men who apply these methods don't have the intangibles to implement them.
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The real challenge is to create a teaching method that empowers the student with intangibles within a realistic time frame. It shouldn't take four years to become proficient in dating and seduction. This is unacceptable. In 2008, I will release a new curriculum that will make men proficient in dating and seduction in 12 months or less. This is my mission. FLORIDA REPORT Here's my report on a week down in south Florida. Some if it I wrote during the week, the rest I'm writing right now on the plane to L.A. where I'll be from Tuesday through Thursday this week. It's a long report, but it has a happy ending I came down to Florida a few days ago to do some sarging outside my comfort zone and to do some teaching down here as well. When people found out I was coming, I started to get emails about how southern Florida is so tough to sarge in. Style and all these other gurus got shut down when they came down here. I'm thinking it can't possibly be as tough as NYC, and, besides, last time I was here I pulled on the first night. Well, actually, it has been a tough area, but it was just what I needed right now for the adjustments I'm making to my game. The last few months I've been doing club game and social circle building. I hear it all the time in the community -- people say "build your social circle," but then there's no method or instruction to go along with that advice. I'm not sure that advice is really helping anyone. So I spent a few months researching it and developing a method which I will release once I have written it up. I already gave one live talk on it, and I'm doing another in LA. Now I'm transitioning my game back to cold approaches. Back in NYC, I have little motivation to do cold approaches. There's a bit of cold approaching involved in the club game I was doing, but nothing really substantial. I was getting lots of lays off the club social circle stuff, and I already had a stable of 5 FBs. So who the hell needs to go sarge a fucking bookstore when you could be home having sex....or in a bookstore having sex.... Now I'm out of my comfort zone, getting back into the cold approach game…back to getting # closes, back to doing day 2s. It's funny. I thought it would be like it used to be back when I was learning. But it's almost like the social circle stuff has added a new dimension to my cold approach game. PAGE:
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You might wonder why the hell a guy with 5 FBs and who's getting 15 minute lays from club game would leave town to do cold approaches in a strange town where he knows no one. Well, right now I'm feeling like it's essential for me to walk in the shoes of the people who are just learning. I want to feel the cold blast of blowouts again. It's been a while. I went from learning approach and all the basics to having quite a bit of success to teaching to designing a system for openers to learning to retain as many as 10 girls at once to learning threesomes to club game to social circle building....and now I want to revisit the cold approaches. My work on social circle is done. I'm curious how it's going to affect other parts of my game. So here's what I've been up to the last few days. First day of sarging in Florida was the hardest. I went to this place Coyote Ugly in Ft. Lauderdale. They have these chicks dancing up on the bar just like in the movie, which kind of puts every guy in the place into a beta frame. I kinda tried to ignore them, but it was hard ‘ causethey were fucking HOT! First set was this DJ chick from the local rock station. She didn't really blow me out, but she wasn't particularly nice to me either. So I moved on to the chicks who were handing out free lighters and crap. They kind of had to be nice; but it was totally fake, and you could tell they're just doing their job. I try to talk to the dancing bartender, HB10, on the bar but can't get her attention. When she's done I ask her, "Did we sleep together last week?" She laughs and walks away. There weren't really a lot of people in the place, and this is why I ended up opening all the hired guns first. Here Brad makes the most of his time. This is one of the key differences bet weenguyswhogetgoodandguyswhodon’ t .Theguyswhogetgood maximize their time in field by talking to every set they can. Remember this the nextt i meyou’ r eoutonani ght‘ t hatsucks. ’ I see a hot chick down at the end with some guys. I decide to make some adjustments, and I open the guys first. They don't even know her so it doesn't end up helping at all. I turn to her and ask directions to some place nearby. Good response off that. Turns out she is with a guy; it's just a different guy than I thought. The guy is this dorky older guy, and this chick is smoking hot. I get up close and she looks older but still hot. She has the hugest breasteses. We PAGE:
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start talking, and she tells me she's 40. I rarely even talk to girls in their 30s, but this is the hottest 40-year old I've ever seen in my life. I talk to the guy too. I start teasing the girl. She's asking how tall I am; I tell her 5'9 even though I'm 6'5. I stand her up next to me and start some aggressive kino. She's totally turned on, and BT is shooting through the roof. I could not believe it myself. She kissed me on the cheek and the neck a few times. I'm a little leery of the guy while all this is going on. Tonguing her down is not strategic here. It's too early in the set, and I don't know the status of this guy. I'm all alone in this place with no one to back me up if things get hairy. Soon she gives me a big IOI telling me flat out that the guy is just her roommate. I tease her a little more then I make a snap decision to try for a bathroom pull. The logistics are super bad with this guy here, and this girl seems to know all the bartenders who are absolute snotty bitches. So I do some perv testing on her. She fails. She is creeped out, and I've blown the set out. This is an intentional blowout. If you want to make an omelet, you gotta break some eggs. Staying in longer would have probably been a waste of time. It was a soft blowout so I re-initiate contact later, and she is cool with talking to me. She invites me to see her at the bar where she bartends. I tell her maybe. This is a great exampl eofBr ad’ st heor yofBl ow MeorBl ow MeOut. Perv testing is the idea of slowly introducing topics of a sexual nature in a friendly way.Youcanl ear nmor eaboutper vt est i ngandbat hr oom pul l si nBr adP’ s seminal Interviews with Naturals CD with The Pheromone Kid. The lesson to take away here is that blowouts are not your enemy. Your enemy is the 25 minute set to nowhere. Think about it like this. If you are going out specifically to meet girls you want to have sex with, you have a limited amount of time. In most cities, you are going to have somewhere between 4-6 hours if you start at 10 PM. So you want to maximize the use of your time by gaming the girls most likely to get sexual with you. After this set, I approach a four set of tourists. The chicks are busted looking so I eject. It was just a set to stay social. I flirt wi t ht he‘ f r eel i ght er ’ chicks some more, and they take a picture grabbing my ass. It was contrived and retarded. I pull one girl's hair really blatantly, which she doesn't take well to, but not a major problem. I flirt again with the radio DJ. This time it's a bit better because I do some aggressive kino. PAGE:
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But again, I'm dealing with a girl whose ego is flying high ‘ causeshe's kind of a local celebrity around here with the radio station and all. I leave that set as neutral. It didn't really hook, but I made my presence known and didn't do anything needy or stupid, which is probably better than most guys do. I decide this place is sarged out, and I decide to go across the street. Out of all those sets, only one really hooked. First few lessons on Ft. Lauderdale: The tendency here seems to be that a lot of these girls are spring break leftovers who never left. Tons of girls are working as bartenders. Some are pretty old, but you can tell they were insanely hot a few years ago. Even now, they're like 8-9 in their 30s. I even saw women in their 40s with massive natural tits, crazy tanned up, spring break style. The young bartender chicks are crazy hot as well but they fly around the place at lightning speed making drinks. It's tough to get a word in edgewise. The bar industry is just massive here. So the chicks have seen it all. They are weathered and wise. These chicks have very strong frame and pretty tight game. They are very good at avoiding attraction and staying logical. They have a focus on their social agenda. The moment attraction takes a dip they immediately try to invite you to see them at the bar they work at, converting you into an orbiter. This happened several times throughout the night. Next place I walk in and do horse girl on two blondes at the bar. Brad P’ sHor seGi rlOpener :
“ He y , doy oul i k ehor s es ? ” (She responds.) “ Hmm, I t houg hts o. OK, c he c kt hi sout . WhenI wa si nt he6t h grade, there was this girl who loved horses. She used to run a r oundt hepl a y g r oundf ora nhours t r a i g hta tl unc ht i me. S he’ d be galloping and making horse noises. We used to call her the we i r dhor s eg i r l …Y oul ookJ US TL I KEHE R! ” (She responds.) “ I t ’ sc ool . I fi twe r eme, I woul dn’ ta dmi ti tei t he r . NowI ’ mnot s a y i ngy ou’ r ede f i ni t e l yhe r , butj us ti nc a s ey oua r e, I wa ntt o t el l y ouI ’ ms or r yf ora l l t het i me sI made fun of you. See, in school, I was always one of the cool kids. And I used to make f unoft hehor s eg i r l . NowI ’ mol dera ndmor ema t ur e, a ndI f ee l ba d. S odoy ouf or g i v eme? ” (She will usually mock forgive you.) Hug, Hug, Hug.
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I hooked them pretty decent. I don't know why the hell I didn't just do horse girl before. They think I'm funny, but I can tell they're thinking I'm a little weird too.
One of them says, "So where are you off to all gothed out?" Mental Note: I need to take my look down a notch or two. This isn't NYC. The chicks aren't used to seeing a guy like me just walking around talking to people. I manage to get through that and win them over. The friend leaves me alone with the target and says "help yourself" and points to her. Wow, that's a new experience! We're shooting the shit. The girl just came off a bad break-up so I'm thinking this is either great because she needs revenge or this is bad ‘ cause she's hung up on the guy. Turns out she was hung up, just got dumped, and she's not in slut mode yet. She's just in depressed mode. I give her a bit of sound relationship advice just to pass the time. We skip to other topics. I'm getting really good kino off this girl. The set is going better than anything else had been going that night. In comes another friend. I'm vibing with them, etc. Surprise, my target girl is a bartender! I look behind me, and the hot 40 year old is sitting a few seats away watching intently. I've kind of lost interest in her, I could have used her as a pawn somehow, but I decide to wait and see if it's going to be strategic to do that. I just told the other three, "check out my stalker over there." In the bathroom, they all run into each other; and HB40yo gets all weird on the two friends of my target. She starts bragging, "How old do you think I am? ... I'm 40, and I don't have a stitch of makeup on, etc." (She’ sprobably trying to raise her ego back up since I didn't try to go talk to her.) The two girls were telling me how weird she is so I decided that flirting with her in front of my target would look too low value in this instance. I end up telling her that I know all these advanced sexual techniques. One of the friends is some kind of a marriage therapist so she starts testing me like crazy. We talk about the deepspot, the G spot, etc. Wow, the mainstream
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educated people really don't know shit. She's trying to DHV on me by telling me about studies that show the G spot doesn't exist because there are "No neurons inside the vagina." I tell her it's really more about skene glands, but she doesn't really want to hear it. She's saying how I can get arrested for doing a class like I do without being certified which is BS. Anyway, the chicks end up leaving, and I can't get a number close out of this chick. She is totally negative and depressed ‘ cause of being dumped. She invites me to come see her at the bar where she works. I tell her, "I'm not gonna chase you around like a dork." Orbiter Invitation #2. I do one more set before I leave. I do a really bad situational opener, and the girls blow me out instantly. I stay and plow for a minute, but then I just have to laugh this one off as my worst set EVER! OK, so far I'm finding that the girls in Ft. Lauderdale generally are not fun. They don't really laugh much. They don't like to joke around or flirt as much as other chicks. There's this grim sense of purpose about them; I can't put my finger on it really. It's like they go out to bars not to have fun, but to do some kind of a job. They really seem like they're at work. Wednesday, I go out and do day game. I've adjusted my clothing a bit for the fact that this is not a major urban area. I got bad advice on a venue and end up in this mall where a lot of old people are walking around. This is how it goes when you solo sarge a lot. Sometimes you end up in situations that absolutely suck. But I wouldn't have it any other way. This is all good stuff that builds your frame. I see some girls with their mom in the food court. Mom and daughter1 leave daughter2 alone at the table. In I go with the Carson
Brad P’ sCar son Dal yOpener: "What.....the hell.... is up with Carson Daly? That guy's just not funny. How did he get his own show? I watched the whole thing just to give it a chance, and I didn't laugh once. It was painful to watch. They must pay the audience to show up and laugh. They never show the audi enceei t her … there's probably only 10 people there....."
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This is girl is damn near flatlining in front of me. It was like talking to a corpse. Mom and daughter come back, and the Mom is getting a kick out of the whole thing. Both daughters just stand there looking at me funny. Okaaaaay then.... Next set, a girl is coming down the escalator with me. I run horse girl. She listens to the whole thing, but there's no hook. She looks at me like I have nine dicks growing out of my forehead. Next set is a blond with free tea to give out at the tea shop. I talk to her for about 10 minutes, but it's not hooking much so I eject. Next set is the girl at the sunglass booth. I ask her where to find cotton candy around here. She barely speaks English. She doesn't even know what cotton candy is. We talk about the circus for a while. I get bored and eject. Out of the mall to the bar next door. It's very upscale and I'm pretty underdressed due to the aforementioned adjustments. In I go. First set, I try this internet date opener I got from a friend of RSD Geoff. The line was really good, and so the chicks were basically like "Great line! Now get the fuck out of here!" I go ahead on a 2nd set with it, and the girl claims to have heard it before. So I say no prob, I have another one; and I do horse girl. They say it's the longest pickup line they've ever heard. These girls are kind of hostile, but they gave me some good info. They said something to the effect of, "Don't you know that women in south Florida are only looking for guys with money and sugar daddies? They really don't care about anything else. You may be funny, but who the hell cares." I told them I'm just looking for sugar mommas. I ask if they're married to a rich guy ‘ cause that would be perfect. They say no. I tell them they're in my friend zone. We banter a bit, but they eventually blow me out with, "Nice meeting you." I tell them nice meeting you too, and then I backturn on them without actually leaving the area. I'm still standing like two feet from them. I know when you blowout there's a tendency to want to run away with your tail between your legs and get as far away from the girls as possible. In my case I don't really mind blowouts; they're actually a necessary part of my game. I want all the girls who are anti-fun or anti-sex to show their true colors as quickly as possibly by either blowing me out or looking confused by my banter. It just makes my life easier when they do that in the first three
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minutes. In this case, it took like 7-8 minutes so that's kind of a waste, but what are you gonna do. The reason I didn't leave the area was because I wanted it to look like I was dissing them. This saves face a bit more with so many other chicks around. It probably looks like I was talking to some people I know, and now I'm done talking to them. I backturn on them, stand up tall and proud. I'm relaxed. I'm ready to look for the next target. I turn my attention to the guys setting up their drums and guitars on the stage behind the bar. Looks like cool shit! I sit down in a stool, and I'm still directly next to the girls from the last set. They're cut out of my world. Her e’ sagr eatsol ut i ont oacommonconcer nguyshave.Get t i ngbl ownout and being embarrassed by it. Most of the time no one will notice blowouts if youj ustf ol l ow Br ad’ sl eadandst ayi nt hear ea, making it look like you guys already knew each other and you got bored of talking to them. Seconds later, I get opened by a HB10 who tells me, "You look like a rock star." I tell her, "Very observant. I am a rock star." We talk for about 20 minutes. She's kinoing me quite a bit, but she's married. I can tell she's a good girl, and I don't want to sarge her. She's got so much positive energy that it's a pleasure just to speak with her. She's telling me this whole long story about how she met her husband in Venezuela when he was there as a pro rugby player. And now she's living in the USA, and she owns three businesses. It's so nice to meet people like this. She gives me her card and says to call anytime. I can tell it's just a networking thing, but what a nice experience. I'm plotting my next move. I don't know where the hell I am or where to go. I've been getting blown out more than usual. Not one set has hooked yet in day game. Not a number close yet. Not a kiss close -- nothing. I realize I have to make more adjustments. I check my walk and my eye contact, and they're not as strong as they need to be for cold approaching. I fix those two things and sarge on. I head out to a different area; back to where I had done night game the night before. First set is two girls on the street. They're standing in front of a concert venue, and I ask who's playing tonight. They say no one. We shoot the shit for a while. The set is hooking OK so I try to venue change them. They're really PAGE:
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lame and going home early. They tell me they'll come see me this weekend if I'm around this area. Off they go. I can tell my game is snapping back into place. The EC and BL adjustments were very helpful. It changed my whole vibe. Maki ngadj ust ment si swhatl ear ni nggamei sal labout .Whent hi ngsar en’ t going well on a given night or even a given approach, try something different! This is a game of adjustments. Next set is two girls at the bar. The bar is filled with people from a kickball team (yes, you read that right, a kickball team). I ask them if they're from the dodgeball league. They say no. I stack some material. Lesbian DTR opener, Oprah Winfrey Opener. These girls think I'm weird. They keep asking me if I'm on drugs. We're not that compatible. They're not that hot. They're really boring. We end up talking about real estate. DOWNER!!! Next set -- I go into a place with a live cover band playing. I see a few two sets. One girl drops her sandal, and I pick it up. The girl is into me right away. The set was hooked before I even said anything. The friend was into me too. We are kinoing like crazy. I spend about two hours in that set. That girl was super cool. She was looking to chill with me longer, but the logistics were bad. The friend had some drama going on with her BF which was killing the vibe. It was kinda funny. Target girl was holding the friend's cell phone, and it would keep vibrating (BF) against my leg. But she wouldn't answer or give it to her friend ‘ causeshe didn't want to leave yet. I # closed, and it's a super solid #. She already texted me twice, and I'm fairly certain I will bang this girl on a day2 this week. Next set, I walk past coyote ugly, and one of the bartenders is giving me IOIs through the window. I go talk to her, and she's not too responsive. Also, she's ugly up close. YIKES! Amazing what kind of deception can occur when makeup and distance team up! I chat up the girl at the door just to stay social and go back across the street. I see this girl doing a weird booty shaking dance. I go up to her and do the exact same dance. Everyone is watching. The girl puts her arms around me. I smile and then walk away with a grossed out look on my face. Awww, that was mean! It was fun though. Ha!Ha! Now I see the DJ girl from the night before, and she's all happy to see me. WTF? I walk over, and she's all over me. She's kissing me on the face and PAGE:
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neck. She's introducing me to people everywhere. I meet this other cool chick. I hang with them for an hour. Both girls give me their # and say let's hang out for sure. Very solid # closes. DJ girl says she will take me to all the cool parties for the rest of the week. (Possible full close with either of these chicks.) DJ girl asks me to come to a sleepover party at someone's pool on Saturday night. I'm not sure what changed overnight or what I did to win this chick over, but it looks like I'm socially proofed for the rest of the week. I get a kiss close with her at the end of the night, and all is well. I go back in, and I had seen this insanely hot chick come in with a guy earlier. I have my eye on them. I'm not gonna sarge the chick because they're obviously together. I'm trying to figure out what she's attracted to in this guy. The guy seems kind of average. He's fairly tall and well built but nothing crazy...looksl i kehe’ sSpanish with a curly afro. When they came in, they went straight to the restroom. Now I go back in and I see them putting something in their nose....a ha! ...coke head chick and her drug dealer! Game is now in full force. I guess I just needed to shake off the rust and regain my old zip with these cold approaches. Three solid #s and a kiss close in two days, but they all came in the last three hours. What made my game snap back into gear? It's very simple. Adjustments. To succeed, you must adjust. Some people just do what they do and if it doesn't work, then they fail. Successful people make adjustments, and failure is something that is never permanent. To me, there is no failure, only setbacks. I firmly believe that you could drop me anywhere on god's green earth, and I would get pussy with a few days at the most. South Florida game is different than NYC. I've been optimized for NYC for the last eight months. Now I've got to get back to something that works in the rest of the country. Thursday afternoon, I get a text from the chick from the cover band place. I call back and set up a day2 for tonight. She's talking about how she wants to get married soon, etc. Not sure where this is going, but I will try to sway her into a little detour off the marriage path. She shows up at the hotel bar to meet me around 12 Midnight. We hang there for a while. Get some drinks. She keeps talking about this marriage thing. Her friend got married, and it's making her feel she needs to get PAGE:
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married ASAP. So I had someone in the bar perform a marriage ceremony for us and did some role playing with that. I get her up to my room using Dance Dance Revolution as the bait. This is something I have in the works right now. I went and got the home version of DDR. It costs like $20 on eBbay. I set it up in my hotel room. Then I talk about DDR until the chick says she wants to play. I tell her I know where there's a DDR machine, then we end up back in my hotel room. Still in the testing phase. It seemed to help somewhat to have that pretense for going back to the room. Her e’ sanot hergr eatexampl eofabasi cr ul eofdat i ng.Al wayshavea reason to go back to your place. It can be a special type of alcohol (like Absi nt he) ,agr eatpi eceofmusi ct hatmostpeopl ehaven’ thear d(like the Decembrists), an activity (like Dance Revolution) or any pretense that allows sext o“ just happen.” We played a few rounds then I escalated a few times. And each time, she started laughing and said, "I can't do this." So I got a bit of making out in, but other than that, she failed the audition. This girl is in a marriage panic right now; I think that may have something to do with it. Side note: She directly asked me how much money I make a few times. She also showed other signs that she's pretty into me. She was very direct about expressing that. She made me brownies and brought them with her. She cuddled me really intensely but didn't do well with the kissing thing. The bottom line is this chick is very interested, but she's not sexually comfortable with herself or something. I can tell she's got some kind of problem so I've got to next her. I decide to get her out ASAP so I still have a chance to call some other girls and maybe get something else going on. I firmly believe that I deserve to be with women who are highly sexual and who can at least be comfortable enough to make out with me in a normal healthy way on a day2. I did all the proper escalating, stayed persistent, etc. I know what the fuck I'm doing here, and, with most girls, it works every time. I walked her to the car to get the brownies. She kept talking and talking; she could probably sense I had lost interest. I gave her a hug and sent her on her way. She texted me five minutes later with some mushy stuff about cuddling. It's very cute and all, but I only have a few more days here so she's not getting another call or a text back. Tomorrow is Friday, and that's a full day workshop. Saturday is a day2 with the chick I pulled last time I was in West Palm Beach. Sunday is free, and Monday night, if I'm here, I'll probably hang with any other girls but tonight's girl. PAGE:
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I get back and get on the phone with radio DJ girl. It's 2:30 AM, but if she's out partying, I may be able to get her to stop by. She picks up the phone, and I call her the wrong name (oops, Hehe!). But she's not sure who I am yet so it's all good. She's at home in bed. She realizes who I am, and she's all excited to talk to me. She gives a few direct SOIs, and we set up a day2 for Sunday night. Friday, is a teaching day. I end up doing a few approaches during demo sets. One of the sets is a group of four black girls in the mall food court. Clittease can tell you his take on this set as well because he was standing right there. Clittease opened it, and when I saw he was about to eject, I came in and took over the set so he could see me run some material. I told the chicks I was his personal security guard so they better not fuck with him. Then I started bitching about how all girls want to do is use me for sex. The target girl had crazy nail polish so I talked about that a bit and how a lot of the girls back in Queens have that. We started doing some pretty heavy hand kino, and I knew she was 100% hooked. I did rapport with her friends; we all exchanged names. I ran Brad Pitt routine, smart tests, smart/hot/rich. This is my standard attract stack, and they were loving it. I # close the target and tell the friends we'll have to go out and take over the clubs in South Beach. They're so into that; they're imagining us rolling into a club- four badass black chicks and a tall skinny rocker guy. I didn't have paper on me so I took down her # and @ on a $20 bill. I tell her, "If I don't call, you'll know I spent it." I texted her, two hours later. Then we talk for a while. She wants to hang out tonight, but I gotta teach night game so I set her up for Sunday afternoon. Sunday is looking good with her in the afternoon and the radio DJ at night. More sets during night game. My sets were pretty much all hooking at this point. There was a lot of energy in the air. First set I was in, me and the girls were putting ice down each other's shirts. Later sets, the girls would kino me immediately. It was a good night. Saturday, the last time I was in West Palm Beach I had a really fast pull and fucked this six foot tall brunette chick in a parking lot. She drove down to see me in Ft. Lauderdale, and it was pretty cool. Two BJs - one on videotape with a facial. She didn't want to fuck because the guy she's dating has a small PAGE:
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cock, and she's trying to tighten up fast before she fucks him. But she's a great chick. Getting head from this girl is incredible. It's like better than actual sex. She has probably the most responsive vagina I've ever seen. She had four different types of orgasms within 15 minutes- clitoral (welcomed method), front deep spot, back deep spot and g spot with squirting. It was her first time squirting. A very nice night! Afterwards, she gave me a lot of cool info on women and how they think. This girl knows what I do, and she's all for it. I get a lot of good info that I can use during pillow talk. In this case, she was talking about how it's hard for women to get what they want sexually because if they directly say what they want, they risk offending the guy. Back when I didn't know what I was doing, I always wondered why they don't Just say what you should do. It turns out most men are very sensitive, and their confidence can easily be shaken in sexual situations. So women are trying to be sensitive to that. This girl said she will say stuff like, "Wow, it's a good thing you didn't bite the back of my neck" in order to get what she wants sexually while not offending the guy. Very interesting! She sub-communicates it. Makes me wonder how much female communication becomes indirect as a result of trying not to shake men's fragile egos. Sunday, The black chick from the food court flaked out so ended up just doing some other shit. I end up getting a number from a girl who approached me in the daytime. She pretty much just walked up and handed me her # and said call me. Her friends put her up to it. Then they walked away. It was simply a result of sexy stereotyping. I finish what I was doing that day, and as it turns out, I have to be at the airport at 12 noon the next day so I need to get this chick in the same day or not at all. I call her up and tell her really directly to come meet me at my hotel. She says she can't do it tonight. I tell her I'm leaving tomorrow; she says to wake up early and come meet her for coffee. Now, I'm really not a fan of waking up early so I tell her I don' tl i kecof f ee… just bring me breakfast in bed ‘ causeI'm really bad in the morning. She says no, and that I'll have to get up if I want to see her. I tell her, "Wait, a lot of people are trying to talk to me here" and hang up on her. How's that for willingness to walk? She's trying to play hardball with me, and I'm not having it. PAGE:
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I call the situation done, but she sends a few text messages. "I'd be more than willing to come see you tomorrow morning, just tell me when and where." I tell her, "I don't think it's gonna work out. I'm bad with mornings, but you're sweet for offering." I call her and explain that logistics are not easy here with me needing to go to the airport, not having a car, etc. The girl is super duper into me. She's asking if I have a GF and all these other questions that indicate she has a serious long term interest. I'm getting really weirded out by this. I barely know this chick, and she's showing so much interest, I think it's possible she could be psycho. I decide to just set it up; I can always cancel later. So she's coming to the hotel at 10AM with cookies, and I tell her to say "wakey, wakey" when she arrives. I gave her exact directions to my room so I don't have to do anything but walk to the door in my underwear and open it. The DJ girl flaked out too ‘ causeI waited too long to call her. But we finally talked, and she really wants to hang out next time I'm in town; sounds good to me. I decide to revisit the black girl from the food court. I call her up, not expecting to get an answer. She picks up. We talk a few minutes then I tell her she should come over because she should do her homework while I pack. And then we should go out for a while and beat people up. (She had said she was in the army so I told her she was a tough girl.) I didn't really think that was gonna fly but it did. She went out into her car and started driving. I knew that this would be an easy one to lose. This girl didn't seem super determined to go through with it. I think she was really just following my lead because I was being commanding towards her. So I decided to stay on the phone with her for a while as she was driving. If you've read my LRs before, you know that I never EVER lose the lay late in the game. My end logistics are super tight and that's what separates the guys who get laid from the guys who get a lot of dead end phone numbers. This is kind of similar to a club/bar pull where you have to keep the girls buying temp up throughout the extraction process, which can take quite a bit of time. In this case, it was really key that I stayed on the phone because the girl was getting lost all over the place. She was stopping off to pick stuff up, getting gas, etc. I don't know the area either so I'm sitting there with a Google PAGE:
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map telling her where to go. If it weren't for Google maps, this girl never would have made it because she made so many wrong turns. I was starting to think she was drunk of something. After an hour of that, she finally arrived. I used that hour on the phone to build some comfort as well as attraction. Her e’ sanot hernuggetofgold many people might miss. Whenever you are setting up a date with a girl, you have to do it on the phone. Not over text. It is soooo much easier to use social pressure to convince a girl to meet up over the phone as well as allowing you to build comfort and attraction to remind her of why she was attracted to you in the first place. I learned this lesson when I once asked a girl after sex when she knew we were going to have sex. Her answer was when we talked on the phone and it was comfortable. She knew we could hang out, andi twoul dn’ tget weird. And if we hung out, we’ dpr obabl yhavesex.Thatwasenoughf ormet or eal l ypay attention to using the phone to make girls comfortable. Whenever you have a chance, st ayont hephonewi t ht hegi r lasshe’ son t hewayovert oyourpl ace.I t ’ sasubt l ewayt omakesur et hatyoudon’ tget flaked on and get the girl re-attracted when she shows up. way it would be easier when she got to the hotel. I got her parked, got her into the room and then it was a matter of relying on some props to pass a little time. We did Dance Dance Revolution for a few minutes. She said it was cheezy. Then I played my guitar for her a bit. I initiated kino by having her try to play, and I'd put my arm around her to teach her and position her hands. She was warming up a bit. Next I had her sit on my lap by the computer and listen to some songs I wrote. I write pop and RnB songs as a side hobby so I played some of the RnB ones since she liked that style of music. I had the TV on, and the Tina Turner movie was on...or at least I thought it was. While we weren't paying attention, that ended and some soft-core porn came on. I left it for a little while then changed it. While we were sitting in the chair I started escalating her, but she wouldn't kiss me. She didn't stop me from kissing her; she just didn't really kiss back. I didn't take this as a red light, more of a yellow. I slowed down and did more kino. Then I went for a power play. I picked her up, put her over my shoulder and threw her on the bed. She got all squeally, and I knew it was on. Then I got on top of her and tried to kiss her and still no kiss. I kissed her neck a bit and then told her, "That's all you get." I did my standard palm reading. That went well. Tried again to kiss her, but she kind of smiled and laughed. Again I PAGE:
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said, "That's all you get." This time she started whining like, "Please more?" I told her no, but then one minute later I was back on top of her. I told her, "Hmmm you're kissing needs some work." Again, she wasn't stopping me, but she wasn't joining in either. I decided in my head, "This girl is horny and interested. She just doesn't like kissing." I haven't been with a lot of black girls; I figured maybe it was a cultural difference or something. So I rolled her on her side and spooned her. Then I started kissing her neck and biting the back of her neck. She started breathing heavily, and I knew she was getting really horny. The escalation went great from that point on. I got her shirt and bra off within a few minutes. She had huge tits. I didn't even realize it in the mall. I checked her bra later and they were DDs. Nice body, nice face. She started jerking me off, and I took her pants off. I tried to finger her, but she refused it. Again, no rhyme or reason to that so I just continued and assumed she just wasn't into being fingered. I tried again to finger her, and she said, "Do you have a condom?" Does a bear shit in the woods? He he, no I didn't really say that. I grabbed a condom, and we got it going. I gave it to her pretty rough, and she was loving it. This girl was a great fuck! Then we were talking later, and she said she had never been with a white guy before. She was saying, "Wow, I'll have to tell my friends white guys CAN fuck...and some of them DO have a big cock!" Ha! Ha! I think I've done my part for race relations today, and it gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside. We talked some more and she was telling she likes it really rough, and she was so turned on when I was teasing her. I told her I'm a big tease, and it's really fun for me. I did some dirty talk whispering into her ear. She was getting really turned on again. So we went right back into doing it again. This time I pounded her super hard and deep. I put her into all kinds of positions where I knew I'd get so deep in it would hurt. She loved the pleasure/pain thing. I choked her a bit and slapped her in the face and ass. When we were done, she just kept saying "wow" over and over. By this time it was 6AM, and I only had four hours until the other girl was going to show up. I decided if this girl who was in bed wanted to stay, I'd let her and cancel the other girl. But she decided to leave as she's a college girl and had class the next day. I was pretty out of it so I passed out minutes after she left.
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Next morning at 10am sure enough I hear a knock on the door. I open it, and I hear "Wakey, wakey." The girl comes in, has cookies and orange juice. I eat that and then pull her into the bed. I pretty much had set a comfortable frame with the way I set this all up so I decided it would probably work fine to just start escalating. We started making out, and everything went pretty smooth. This girl was only 20 and turned out to be a virgin so she ended up giving me a handjob and a titfuck. Damn virgins! I keep attracting them all the time; I have no idea why. Wow, that one was easy. After she finished cleaning my pipes, I showered real quick, packed my stuff, and she drove me to the airport. While I was packing, she kept taking pictures of me and trying to go through my stuff. That was annoying. At one point she tried turning on my video camera, and I knew it was cued up to the footage of the tall brunette blowing me from a few nights earlier. I had to grab her by the hair and take the camera out of her hand. She said something like, "What? Do you just travel all over the country having sex with different girls?" I said yeah and kept packing. She was super annoying but at least I got a free ride to the airport. I gave her a peck on the lips at the curb, and she said, "That's it?" I said yeah, and she yelled "Jerk!" It was pretty funny. For the week: 7 total days in Florida 3 total days sarging 4 total day 2s 3 total naked chicks in my bed It was a pretty good week, even though it got off to a rough start. I think I really have my cold approach game back to 100%. Next time I'm down there I also have the advantage of being socially proofed by a local celeb- the DJ chick and having two solid FBs ready to go. Now that the week is over, I'm not really sure that I did go out of my comfort zone. I've pulled quite a few lays of cold approaches in the past so maybe this was just more of the same. I guess it just seemed hard at first ‘ ‘ causeI hadn't done it in like two months. Cold approaching is awesome! There's just something really cool about knowing you can go up to any girl and talk to her, and chances are you'll get laid pretty quickly as a result of PAGE:
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doing that. The black girl was really fun. I've only been with two black chicks before, and they were both lousy in bed. If anyone has experience in dealing with black girls, I'd be interested in hearing it. To learn more about Brad P go to www.BradPpresents.com
LR - 2F CLOSES IN ONE DAY (CHICAGO BOOTCAMP) This report is by The Don. I actually witnessed both of these pick-ups within a span of about 12 hours. The Don is the lead instructor for Love Systems as well as my former wing when I livedi nLosAngel es.Her e’ shi sbio from The Love Systems page. The Don is a USC alum, originally hailing from NY, who currently lives and approaches women in the city of Los Angeles. In his civilian life, he is an accomplished writer, having sold and optioned several screenplays over the past several years. A member of Mensa and an avid reader, The Don uses a combination of intelligence, humor and strategy to find and attract women of top quality; inside and out. In seminar, he focuses on teaching students the external tactics to generate attraction and internal ways to reshape their beliefs regarding what they are capable of with women. He believes firmly that success with women is a teachable skill and prides himself on being able to demonstrate and communicate Love Systems to help men transform their lives. So, on Sunday afternoon with our instructional duties done, a few of us decided to go do some hardcore gaming for ourselves... Sunday Day - Me, Sinn, Future, Tenmagnet and Masters hit Castaways at North Avenue Beach, which is packed with people. HBs in bathing suits everywhere, beer is flowing... Great venue! Sinn opens a seated two set, and we lock in with them and pull the rest of the guys over. I'm working HB Asian (I'm not usually into Asian girls, but she was hot enough to make an exception and had an awesome rack) Got some strong resistance early on. I plow through and turn it around, get some solid AIs from the guys, get her laughing and IOIing and isolate to the bar. We get beers, make-out, I # close and agree to meet that night...
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Sunday night - We have a longstanding tradition of hitting a strip club post-bootcamp. So in this case, since it was the Special Bootcamp, we had the whole company present. So the entire MM instructors, including Mystery, descend on the best strip club in Chicago... They didn't see it coming. HBAsian keeps texting to meet up, but I push till tomorrow night. This is going to be interesting and probably not something I want her to see. I sit down beside two strippers and start gaming. It wasn't really textbook stripper game. I just did normal IVD/DHV/neg stuff... The hotter of the two was biting, and I pull her over next to me in isolation. Mystery normally advises not to kino strippers, but I kino plowed the crap out of her and got total compliance. She never once asked me for a dollar, which is probably the best gauge as to how you're realistically doing with a stripper. As soon as they ask for cash, you've lost interest and become a customer. It was basically a flawless set with almost no hitches. I get her to kiss me, and she tells me her # while looking for her manager over her shoulder... I tell her we're meeting up tomorrow. Monday Day - I wake up at 1pm and send a flirty txt to the stripper. She texts back:
HB Stripper - "You were the first thing I thought of when I woke up. What are we going to do about that?" The Don - "You're coming to my hotel, and we're going to lay around; watch movies and order room service. I'm lazy and hung-over." HB Stripper - "Ok" She arrives around 4:00pm. 45 minutes of comfort building and easy full Monty. We lie around for a while, order room service and do it again. I send her on her way to work that night, pick up the phone and text HBAsian. Monday Night - Future and I grab a few beers and HBAsian comes to meet us. We hang for an hour or so. Future drops some solid AIs for me and takes off for the hotel. I immediately begin kino escalation and kissing again, venue change twice and pull her into a cab to my hotel. No resistance. Full Monty, and she stays the night.LMR does not exist in this dojo.
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My last four lays this month have all been logged in under four hours with no LMR. Solid Comfort/Connection game mixed with hard sexual escalation is powerful... To learn more about the Don go to www.lovesystems.com/the-don
LR - 22 YEAR OLD SORORITY PRESIDENT BABE This next LR is from my buddy In10se who is one of the main influences on my game. His stuff on mid-game and sexual escalation is among the best and most underrated material in the community. Well I just had to post this LR while I'm still buzzing about it. I've come to the realization of why I like this GAME so much - because after I f-close a hot chick like this I just think back on it and say "DAMN!" - It just makes me happy. This Lay Report is a great example of gaming outside of normal social situations. Well, this chick is a 22 year old 9.8 sorority chick (Sorority PRESIDENT) that’ s doing an internship in Clinical Lab at the hospital where I work. She had seen me in the cafeteria one day, and so when she saw me at the coffee shop, I had an obvious IOI - she smiled at me and opened me. Well I got her number and called her the night before last. I did Small Talk, My Ideal Relationship Values Theme, Polynesia "Bachelorette" Theme, Different Levels of Communication and Connection Theme, G-string Story/Opinion, Similarity/Difference and Attract/Comfort Balance Theme, "Parts" Theme - and then I cubed her. Now here's a funny lesson but DEFINITELY powerful technique that I did while cubing her - and it all comes back to building a self image for someone to live up to. While I did her cube - her horse was a big brown Cheshire Horse confident, strong, bold. And so I read her lover as being that way. Now what I did DIFFERENT this time is I said, "Oh, and there's something else about your horse, but I can’ t tell you about it"
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She was like, "Oh, now you have to tell me!" and she basically BEGGED me to tell her. As she begged me she was like, "Does it mean I have a strong sex drive? Does it mean I love sex?" I was like, "Yeah" ... (Secretly thinking "Oh yeah!") So we get together last night and have dinner. We actually only stayed about an hour because they were taking WAY too long with our food and because we really weren't that hungry anyway. She was drawn in by how much we had in common - she kept pointing things out saying, "It's a sign!" Like, for example, my mom is a Med Technologist - that's what she is. My mom is a Leo - so is she. We both drive the same kind of car, etc... I took this as an obvious, and somewhat more serious, IOI than just regular IOI's. It means that she see's our interaction as "FATE". The ISOLATION: So we go back to her house and watch a DVD "Napoleon Dynamite." Part way through it, I'm like, "Do you dye your hair?" as I run my fingers through it. She's says no and that it's naturally blond. I keep running my fingers through her hair and then up and down her neck she's loving it. Then I start caressing her jaw, and she turns toward me and just starts kissing me. We get pretty hot and heavy, and I'm starting to move my hands up and down her chest and over her breasts. She says, "Let's go to my room." Now when a chick says that, you basically KNOW that you’ re going to get laid! - Don't pass go - no more questions asked! So we went to her room and continue making out. I lay down on her bed, and she gets on top of me. She takes off her top and bra and then her pants leaving her G-string on. She had the hottest, tightest, most perfect body and ass that I've seen in a LONG time. (And I've seen and had A LOT!) I turn her over and start kissing her neck then chest and breasts. I move down to her stomach and then to her inner thighs. And I'm just alternating from one thigh to the other going up and down with my mouth and PAGE:
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tongue. She's like arching her back, and I can smell her pussy. I sweep aside her g-string and start kissing her pussy and clit. And then I start the IN10SE Orgasm method - she later told me that after three orgasms she thought her whole body was going numb so that’ s why she stopped me! She pulls me up to start kissing her lips with all of her juices still on my mouth - she's loving it! I take down my pants and she pulls off her g-string completely and it's ON! She was probably one of the hottest f-close's that I've ever had! I told her afterwards that she was an awesome lover, and she said, "So are you, and you know my horse was BIG!" Basically revalidating the self-image that I had given her or maybe even just validating the part of herself that I allowed to come out and play. We're hanging out tonight for New Years, and you can BET that I'm going to start the New Years with some more of that stuff! Comments, Questions? To learn more about In10se got www.octoberman.com
LR - CUTE 18 YEAR OLD AI: JDOG Born and raised in northern England, Justin "JDog" Marks may sometimes look like a punk kid or even perhaps a rock star. However, he used to be your stereotypical engineer with virtually no success with women whatsoever. He is the type of individual who focuses on what he wants in life and then sets out to make it happen. Upon graduati nguni ver si t ywi t haMast er ’ sDegree in engineering in 1995, JDog was recruited into a US telecom startup company. Seizing the opportunity, he pushed through his fears and travelled out to New York, missing his graduation ceremony in the process. He went on to prove himself in the business world by founding a successful, multimillion dollar engineering company. Unfortunately, his business and financial successes never brought him much luck with women. In 2000, to save his sanity, JDog made a decision to get his dating life fixed once and for all. That decision set him on a life changing journey. First… exercise! Becoming passionate about outdoor sports and fanatical about
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going to the gym, he lost 30lbs, lost his gut and got into the best shape of his life. Next was a long and ongoing process of developing his own personal sense of fashion and style. Of course, without confidence when talking to women and without even understanding women or know how to communicate on a sexual and captivating level, little was gained by the other changes alone. Late one night while watching BBC America, JDog's eyes were opened to the secret society of pickup artists. The television show, Louis Theroux's Weird Weekends, featured a man called Ross Jeffries who was teaching other men how to seduce women. It seemed real! "Until that moment, I never believed that it was possible to change the way that women are attracted to you. Honestly, I had just accepted the fact that the women I find attractive are just not attracted to me... and that's just a horrible place to find yourself." recalls JDog. JDog studied under Ross, learning methods of using one's language, tone of voice, and gesture to communicate in a more captivating manner. Ross and JDog have remained good friends ever since. Fascinated by these principles, JDog later earned both a Master Practitioner Certification in NLP (Neuro-Linguistic Programming) and a Hypnotherapy Certification. Having now been exposed to the seduction community, JDog traveled to meet and learn from the world's most revered Pickup Artists including Mystery, Neil Strauss, Sinn, Lance Mason, Tyler Durden and many others. In the process, he became a master and teacher of the art himself, respected and known internationally. Fans of Neil Strauss' international bestseller, "The Game," might be interested to know that JDog was actually one of the founding members of the much written about Project Hollywood. JDog discussed the initial financing for the project with Neil Strauss at Chicken A-Go-Go in LA and later backed out to pursue other adventures. JDog gave his room to Herbal who later became a central character to the storyline. When teaching, JDog excels at making sure that guys truly understand the material and are able to apply it to improve their lives. His ability to make positive, lasting i mpr ovement si not herpeopl es’l i vesi ssecondt onone.J Dog has impeccable communication skills and is able to relate to students of all PAGE:
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ages and backgrounds, especially those who think of themselves as too old or not interested in the nightclub scene. JDog's focus is on teaching guys to become naturally more attractive men through the way they live their lives and communicate with others. Rather than trying to buy or beg for a woman's attention, this is certainly a better alternative than using social tricks to get women into bed. In this way, men tend to find they have more fulfilling relationships and can keep quality women in their life long after the initial pick up So this cute girl (18 years old) is on the other side of Starbucks from me reading a book. I'm on my laptop setting up an Arizona PUA message board/website. There are a couple of other people between where she and I are sitting. She gets up to go to the bathroom, and she uses a Mystery opener on me that I actually use a lot. As she walks past my table, she asks me to watch her stuff. I look at her, look across the room, look at the other people, look puzzled and say, "sure." She comes back out of the restroom, says thanks, and goes back to reading her book. I work on my laptop for another 15 minutes, talk to people outside for another 10 minutes and then pack up my things. I then just go over and sit down with her and ask her to tell me about her book. Here JDOG opens with a situational opener. This is something that goes against most traditional community advice. However, there are two factors to consider here. First, the girl has already opened him by asking him to watch her stuff. This is enough of an indicator of interest that he doesn't need to open with anything particularly clever as he knows she's interested. The second thing to keep in mind is that this is during the day at a coffee shop. The distractions are minimal, and she isn't going anywhere. What this opener actually does is test for her attraction levels. If she is interested, she can jump on the book conversation. He also phrases it by making her do something (In this case, tell him about the book). She gives loads of IOI's, blushes, and directly tells me she's seen me in there before but was too shy to talk to me. I bust on her playfully on a few things, especially her blushing...haha... I make sure not to over-game as she is already into me. I stack some routines, and just comfort build. I go for a venue change, but she was waiting for a friend. We talk about different bridge ideas, and then I get distracted from setting up a solid bridge. She takes my
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number. I tell her she better call, or she'll be really embarrassed the next time I see her in there. She was really into me so she better call!!! Cute 18 year old omg. I don't even remember her name… shit!!! I did cocky funny and stacked the following routines (see below). I may have over-qualified myself a bit; just talking about my lifestyle can be overwhelming to an 18 year old who already sees me as higher value. She qualified herself to me by talking about travel and horse riding and what she's going to study. Over-qualifying yourself can be a legitimate concern, especially if you are particularly accomplished as JDOG is. Another factor here can be the age of the girl. A young college coed is going to be much more impressed with your travels than a 33 year old attorney. The key is to not try so hard to demonstrate value. Once you have enough value that the girl will qualify herself, move into comfort and start finding out about her.
Routines & Mini-Cold reads: General C&F… though toned down... and more funny... no hard negs… Little playful comments. How I ended up in America Busted on her for being my stalker The girl with no arms My trainer… not full... I'll go into that next time. Sugar mummy People watching... building commonality Hmmm… that was about it. She went for a handshake when I got up to leave. I'm like whatever, give me a hug.... she felt good…he he. I'll keep you posted. Closing Thought: When you get a solid AI, always make use of it!.... And.... When you get a solid AI, always make use of it!
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JDog here does something that I implore everyone reading this to do. When you have a successful pick up, write down a rough idea of what you said. You can keep a journal, a notepad of ideas, a computer file... whatever. But write down the things you say that get a good reaction. So it's been about two weeks since I met HB-18, and she never called me. I was soooo certain she would call. I'm at the same Starbucks like every other day too, and she hasn't been there. This afternoon around 5:30 pm, I'm sitting on the patio at Starbucks, smoking a cigar and reading my RSD notes. Then, out of the blue, this girl appears in front of me from out of nowhere, and she's all smiles. It was HB18. I initially thought of standing up and giving her a hug... then I though NO, she didn't call me… so I kicked back in my chair and acted cool. Here's a good example of withholding indicators of interest to punish bad behavior. We talk; she's all into me. I tell her that I was surprised that she never called me, and she acted really surprised and said that she left me a voice mail. She insisted that she left a voice mail days ago saying that she was gonna be at Starbucks and why don't I join her. I never got the message. Girls will say things like this all the time. The reason is they hate social awkwardness. It doesn't mean she doesn't like you or won't have sex with you. All it means is that she didn't call. There's no need to bring it up or try to punish her for it. Instead, act like it didn't happen and file it under "weird stuff girls do." We talk, and she's really into me. My mind goes blank… no routines... no personal stories... just fluff talk with some C&F... she's already turned on. I hand her my phone and say ok I need your number. As she's really into me and not really qualified, I act a little AFC (but not really, my whole state is alpha) and tell her I was really disappointed when I didn't hear from her. She puts her number in my phone. Then she's making gestures to someone inside. She says it's her best friend. She points to me and mouths this is him, and then she goes inside to get her. Her friend was another cute 18 year old HB-friend. We all talk for a bit, then HB-friend reads something while HB-18 flirts with me. She was all flushed. I asked her if she was embarrassed. She said,“ No, why?”I said, well you're all flushed so then you must just be turned on. She says maybe and PAGE:
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glances at my crotch. I say no way, you just checked out my package, didn't you? And she looks again. They both laugh. She then stares at my crotch as a joke for like a minute. We flirt more. Her body language was totally into me... with her legs on either side of mine. I ask if HB-friend is judging me and grading me. She's like, yeah, I am. She gave me points for kicking my flip-flops off while sitting there as they do that. Then she took away points for having smokes and cigars. HB-18 takes HB-friend home and tells me she is coming back. Here, some people would think that JDOG was giving away some of his power by asking if the girl was there to grade him. In an initial interaction, this would come across as supplication. However, since the girl is so attracted to him and it's not a pick up, he gets away with it. Remember that all rules are simply guidelines to be broken at the appropriate time. I sit and read. While I'm sitting there, I see this tall, thin, blond HB-mother with a little kid walking towards the Starbucks. She looks at me while I'm checking her out, and she holds the gaze. We both give each other a sexual kind of smile. She walks past. I make a phone call and stand up to walk around while on the phone. HB-mother walks right past me, and I turn around to see if I misread her of if she was really giving me a strong AI. Same thing happens. BUT I DON'T OPEN. Partly because I thought that HB-18 might be back any time and see us, and HB-18 is like an AFC so it might ruin it. Secondly, her having a kid kind of put me off. I don't mind her having a kid I just felt uncomfortable gaming a woman in front of her kid. I broke my own rule!!! WHEN YOU GET A STRONG AI, ALWAYS OPEN. I read and HB-18 comes back. I asked her if she discussed me with her friend on the way home and what she said. She said that her friend approved and likes me…hehehe. HB-18 leaves for Ireland tomorrow for 10 days and said she had plans tonight. I tell her I have to go as I've been there so long and would like to do something with her but, unfortunately, she has plans. She says she doesn't have any plans and that she was lying. I said I don't know; I have to go. She's like where are you going. I said home. She's like don't you need to have dinner. I'm like so where are you taking me. We leave in my car and stop off at my house briefly. As we were driving to the restaurant, she asks me if I'm more into sex or relationships. I say that I really enjoy sex, but a truly satisfying relationship is what I would really like. PAGE:
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And until I find someone that meets all my standards, I'm happy to have fun. She's quiet for a while. Then when we pull up to the restaurant, she tells me that she has decided to not jump into sleeping with anyone right now as she's had a fucked up series of experiences over that last month. She feels like I am all about sex. I dispel her concerns. This is a classic trap. When a girl is feeling super sexual, (as this girl no doubt was) she will try to throw herself out of state. This is a very common example. The DTR (Determine the Relationship) conversation. This is one of the places where active frame control and attraction frames come back into play. Here JDOG makes a mistake by assuming that comfort is a static phase and that he already has all the attraction he needs. Before you have sex with a girl, if she brings up relationshipy topics, use the confusion frame. Throw out a bunch of contradictory funny answers until she stops asking, or you can change the subject to something that engages her. Then we eat at a nice but reasonable and casual Mexican place. We sit next to each other on bench. She's all over me. I go to kiss her at one point, and she moves away. I stay there and say come here, I'm gonna kiss you. She just looks at me. I say come on… no tongue, I promise. She slowly moves closer, and we kiss. She starts to go for tongue. I pull back and call her on it saying, hey I said no tongue. We leave. On the way home she says she needs to be back at 1am and I suggest we watch a video at my place. She agrees. On the way, I bring up not receiving her voicemail again, and her state changes. She says that she should probably not come back to my place as she has to pack for her flight. I say OK, and I start driving to her car. Then I turn around and say no! You're coming back to my place for a bit. I don't want you to go yet. She says ok. We hang out at my place. I introduce her to my roomies, and then me and her have a glass of wine and chill on the sofa. We make out heavy, and she tells me she so wants to fuck me, but she shouldn't. We didn't have sex that night… some thoughts on this: 1) I know we will when she gets back, and I didn't want buyer’ s remorse. 2) She has some serious problems, and I don't know if I want to go anywhere with this yet. She failed the David Shade test for a happy healthy woman based upon her relationship to her father and her ability to receive PAGE:
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compliments (she can't accept compliments on her appearance). In fact, her dad's an alcoholic and her mother has been battling a serious illness since she was a kid. 3) HB-18 is also on anti-depressant medication, and she has scars on her wrists. Every time I tried to look at her wrists, she would either pull her hands away or keep them firmly held so I couldn't turn them over. I didn't fight her on this. I finally take her back to her car. We make out more, and I leave. When she gets back from Ireland, I'll only be in town like two days before leaving for England for a month. So we'll see what happens. Really if not for the reasons #2 above, I would have kept a strong frame… led her into my room and fucked her. She called me as soon as she got back into town from Ireland. She was really tired… a little jetlagged. We met at a local coffee shop and then went for lunch. I chose the place after she suggested Applebee's. We split the bill, and then went back to my place. Got friendly on the sofa and then moved it to my bedroom. She kept giving me LMR... so I kept pulling back… amping BT and going again. I even gave Riker's three rules. But no go. Then again, we've only spent like a total of four hours together…atmostf i vehours. I see her again on Sunday before I leave. She called today and joined me for shopping for luggage. A beer in the mall, and then came back to my place. She lays on my bed. We fool around a bit. I start packing… she comes over, and it's game on. I blindfold her with a bondage mask (Zoro style)… and spank her ass a bit with a bondage whip. We get into bed... I get her off by going down on her and fingers. She gives me head and says she wants me inside her. I say I'll get a condom, and she's like what do we need one for as she straddles me. This killed my mood a lot as I'm thinking that if that's how she carries on she's high risk STD's. I get the condom and we get back into it. This report is a great example of knowing when to apply the principle of time. The first two times he had her back at his place, she simply wasn't ready yet. This doesn't mean that every girl needs a certain amount of time. But this particular girl needed more time to grow comfortable enough for sex to just happen. PAGE:
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JDog does a great job of recognizing this and not pushing her into LMR which could make her flake down the line. Think about it like this. If there was a girl that gave you approach anxiety every time you saw or heard from her, would you like return her calls or ignore her? LMR works the same way so it's vital to not make her feel this way until you can get around it. Unfortunately, she gets a little too comfortable and asks him not to use a condom. Readers, don't be a fool, always wrap your tool. This was a rewarding experience. What started out so smooth and perfect actually hit a lot of speed bumps on the day 2. But I still persevered, had a great time with a stunningly gorgeous girl, and in return rewarded her with a handful of orgasms. To learn more about JDOG visit www.askjdog.com Entropy is widely acknowledged as the best PUA in Boston. He works for both Sinns Of Attraction and Practical Pick-Up. Day 1: Thursday Night -- Open/Attraction My roommates and I headed down to a local bar/club down the street from us. It's hopping on Thursdays with college kids and my god, was it was targetrich. As with my last lay report, I looked and felt like I just crawled out of a dumpster. Ripped T-shirt, cargo shorts, flip-flops, no shower, stubble on my face. Why is it my best LR's happen when I look like steamrolled ass? I need to quit showering more often. Anyway, I had just worked an extra long day at work and one of my FB's was having problems with her boyfriend (yes, you read that correctly), so I told her to come and have a couple beers with me and cheer up (and yes, I'd end up fucking her that night). The night kicked off well though and pretty soon my state was pumped. My roommates were opening sets everywhere, so I figure I should do something. I opened a cute Asian, got her to rub her ass against mine while she danced, but she didn't exactly hook. Next, I went outside for a smoke and opened and hooked two HB8's from the local university. They were kind of dull, and even though I was getting a few IOI's from one of them, the obstacle was having none of it. So, they were done after about 5-10 minutes. I come back in and the place is slammed. I make my way back to the my PAGE:
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roommates who are goofing off with my FB (I need to mention she's possibly the coolest girl I've ever met in my life, we're coming up on our one-year FB anniversary... sniffle). This is when I spot the target. Across the bar there is a gorgeous tall girl looking at me, giving heavy AI. I'm in a good state so I immediately give her my "You looking at me?" face. I do this sometimes when girls give me heavy eye contact -- it's hit or miss. This girl started laughing: it's on. Without hesitation I walk around the bar to talk to her. If you get an approach invitation, it is imperative that you approach her within three seconds. If you take any more time than that the girl will assume you are not confident and you will lose the attraction you already had.
Me: "I'd appreciate it if you'd stop staring at me; I get uncomfortable when girls give me attention." HB: *laughs* "I'm sure." Me: "No really, I'm very sensitive... I need to be pampered a lot." HB: *laughs* "Well maybe you should try hanging out with your mot heri ns t e a d. ” Holy shit, this girl is stunning. She's pushing six feet tall, long luscious blond hair, bright blue eyes -- only thing holding her back from a 10 that night was she was dressed pretty plainly. (My roommate later commented, "If she got dolled up, she'd easily be a HB10.") This is the thing about HB10's I've found (excluding high end club girls). They're impossible to hook, but once you catch their interest, they're usually the sweetest girls you'll find around. We started fluffing about school (she goes to the same school I just graduated from) when sure enough the CB patrol arrived on the scene. Her friend literally dragged her about five-feet away from me. But before I could even try and disarm her, HBAmazonGoddess turned around and walked back to me and apologized. Hol yshi t ,i t ’ son. This is an important sign to look for. If a girl ever refuses a drag away or comes back immediately after being pulled away. You have attraction and should immediately try to escalate the interaction verbally and physically. The main thing I had going for me in this phase was she laughed at fucking EVERYTHING I said. I have a very particular, semi-harsh sense of humor, and she ate it ALL up. I began kino-escalating, which she responded warmly to. Then abruptly I said, "My friends are over here," and I just grabbed her and
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took her to the other side of the bar. I wanted backup if the cock-blocks returned. Next, some awesome social-proof happened. My FB bought me a shot and brought it to me as I was talking to HBAmazonGoddess. She gave it to me, took it with me, introduced herself to my target and then simply said something like, "Entropy is the coolest fucking guy I know," and walked off. I told you. . .t hi sgi r l ’ sAMAZI NG. The cock-block found us and told my target to go to the bathroom with her. My target said she'd be back and I told her to come find me in a certain spot. She complied about five minutes later. Things were going perfectly. Even though she didn't look like an HB10 that night, she was still HB9+ territory, and for some reason I wasn't shaking in my boots about it. I just kept bullshitting, DHV'ing, busting on her and she ate it all up. I # closed. Timebridged to Sunday night. I did the whole thing where I call her with my phone and make her pick up, then joke about "You meet any cute guys tonight? ... Oh, really? ... I met this one girl, a really tall blonde. It was going real well, but (enter disqualification here) she spilled her drink on me, so I don't how it's going to pan out." She loved it and play hit me -- this is so on. Before I left, for whatever reason, she told me I had to text her when I woke up in the morning. I joked that she was being high maintenance, which she genuinely took offense to (the only negative reaction all night). She seemed serious and I had built a lot of attraction in her, so I figured it'd be like my SOI to text her when I woke up. I agreed and left. Day 1.5: Friday/Saturday -- Attraction I wake up the next morning and text her as promised: "As requested, here's your friendly reminder that we have a date Sunday... try not to spill your drink on me this time. ;)" She responded within two minutes very positively. The next night she texted asking what I was up to. I was out (and actually near her), but I di dn’ t r espondj ustt oguar ant eeshedi dn’ tf l aket henextday. Her e’ sani mpor t antpi ece.Of t ent i meswhengi r l st extandaskyouwhat you are up to you have to make an assessment whether or noti t ’ saboot ycal l oranor bi t ercal l .I fyoual r eadyhaveadat eandt her ewasn’ tahugeamount ofsexualt ensi on,i t ’ sbestt obui l dsomei nt r i guebynotr espondi ng.Especi al l y i fi t ’ saweekendni ght . PAGE:
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Day 2: Sunday Night -- Comfort/Seduction This is where stuff started going wrong. I get her to meet me in a popular part of town to walk down to this Mexican-themed bar (a local community guy recommended it to me on Sunday nights). When I get there, she's already there waiting and I'm on my bike. I tell her that I'm going to lock my bike up in an alley around the corner and she starts walking with me. She's very cheery and again is dressed plainly, but the natural beauty more than makes up for it.
Me: "So you follow guys into alleys often? This was pretty easy." HB: *laughs* "It's OK, I brought mace, I had a feeling about you." Me: "Seriously, this is the whole date. I was kidding about the drinking and dancing." HB: "You're terrible!" This is a great example of date teasing. Guys often cannot strike the balance between indicators of disinterest and teasing. This light hearted obviously not true teasing is the right kind of stuff to use on dates to remind the girl why she was attracted to you without indicating any disinterest as she should know you l i keherbyt het i meshe’ sonadat e. One thing I should add is this girl is very proper. Even though she laughed at all of my inappropriate, crude, perverted, and stupid jokes, I never heard her curse once or say anything negative about somebody. When we got to the bar, she sat very properly, and when we split Quesadillas, her manners were so perfect I wanted to throw salsa on her. I did my usual eliciting values routine, read: Facebook stalking, and discovered she was way into traveling and different cultures. That's pretty cool because I'm into traveling and different cultures. So that was something to talk about and relate to for awhile. I started telling her about how my Mom lived in Jamaica and crazy stories about guys trying to pick her up and sell me drugs down there. Her e’ sagr eatt act i ct ogett oknow aboutwhatagi r l ’ si nt owi t houthavi ngt o ask her. When you meet her initially or over the phone get her MySpace/Facebook info and check out her page between your first and second meeting. This will give you some key insights into what the girl is into and how she wants to be seen.
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HB: "How was the beach?" Me: "Oh my God, in Negril? You practically shit yourself when you first s e et hebe a c h.S e r i ous l y , i t ’ sl i k ef uc k i nghea v e n. " HB: "Is the language necessary?" Me: "Huh?" *still eating* HB: "You use so much foul language." Me: "What are you, my mother?" HB: "No, I just don't think it's necessary." Me: "Maybe not... Anyway, where was I? (pause) Oh yeah, it's like fucking heaven." Humor 101: comedy is all about timing. If I hadn't had the pause for effect, I would have just come off as an asshole. But she laughed her ass off, play hit me and called me "hopeless." After about 30 minutes, the other eight people in the bar left, literally leaving us by ourselves. To be honest, I was pretty embarrassed. But I think I handled it well.
HB: *looking around* "Wow, we're the only ones here now." Me: "Yeah, I planned that. Not bad, eh?" HB: *laughs* "That's impressive, convincing everyone to leave." Me: "Well, since the whole alley thing didn't pan out, I figured this was the next best thing." I thought about kiss closing here, but I looked into her eyes for a bit and could tell it wasn't time yet. I wasn't sure how I was going to do it if not there -- maybe dancing. It was beginning to be a long time without any more escalation, and if there's one thing I live and die by in sarging, it's A-B-C! ALWAYS BE CLOSING! IT'S FUCK OR WALK! IT'S CLOSE OR HIT THE BRICKS PAL! So I decide to venue change her up the block to a swanky lounge with some music to dance to. I close out the tab which all of the drinks are on -and we all know... I NEVER buy a girl a drink. I'm positive she just took it for granted that the night would be on me. As I signed the tab I said, "This bar's on me, next bar is on you." She kind of looked stunned but squeaked out an "OK." Them's the rules, honey, get used to it.
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So we're walking down the street and I really want to kiss her.
Me: *grab her arm* "Stop for a second." HB: "What?" Me: "I want to kiss you right now." HB: *looks away* "I can't. I don't do that on the first date." I was genuinely stunned. This girl IS prude! No worries...
Me: "I know you like me." HB: *blushes* "I do." I literally start laughing at her.
Me: "That makes NO sense." I can tell in her face she suddenly sees how it makes no sense -- welcome to my frame, darling, enjoy your stay.
HB: *nervous laugh* "Yeah, I guess not. Maybe a little one." Me: "OK, just a little one." I give her a nice little kiss on the lips. She smiles. Me: "I'm going to steal another later." (Holy shit, was that an understatement). So we get to the next venue, and more disaster, i.e.: Entropy looking like an idiot. The place ISN'T EVEN OPEN. Wow, I feel stupid and have no idea where to take her now, and I DEFINITELY don't want the night ending on this note. She says she's going to run into the bathroom in the hotel next door. While she's in there, I run out to the valet guy for and tell him my situation. I seriously thought the lounge was a good spot on Sundays. He explains to me that the only Sunday's it's opened on are after Red Sox games. I quickly ask him where I should take her. He recommends a nice spot a few blocks away. She comes out and I don't even say anything other than, "Come on, we're going somewhere else." So we walk to the next spot and THANK GOD there are people there. In fact, it's a really nice spot with nice atmosphere. We sit down and I just basically do comfort building, talking about family, friends, personal subjects. One thing I noticed about her was she LOVED to hear about my closet dorkiness. When I'm gaming a girl, I'll usually let her in on one little dorky thing about me, because you don't want to look like a hard
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ass all the time -- it endears you a bit to them, makes you look human and vulnerable. It's a great comfort tactic. Well, she LOVED it. So I just started spilling all the dorky shit I'm into, the competitive gaming, the cheesy music, my old chess club, my meditation practice. I go to the bathroom and when I come back:
HB: "You're just in time." Me: "Why, the guys hovering?" HB: " T he y ’ r el i k ev ul t ur e s . " Me: "Don't worry, I'll scare them away." *wink* HB: *laughs* "Nah, I'm actually really good at blowing guys off. With my friends, I was always the one who would get the guys to leave us alone." Me: "Really? I guess when you have so many guys hitting on you, you kind of have to build some sort of shield to it." HB: "Yeah, but sometimes I hate it." Me: "Why? Because you feel like a bitch, right? Even though you're not, you have to protect yourself." HB: "Yeah. Exactly." Me: "I'm glad you let me in." HB: *smiles* "I am too." The most important event occurred here, and I think if you take anything from this LR, this should be it. For whatever reason, I've developed a very good skill at turning girls into FB's. I can turn almost every girl I hook up with into an FB that lasts as long as I want them to and it's [u]all about setting expectations.[/u] If you set the expectation for the level of interaction with the girl, she will generally always follow it. So you have to put yourself out there and do it. If you leave the expectations ambiguous, it will usually lead to problems down the road. She let on that she had just come out of over three years of relationships and had honestly never actually "dated". This explained a lot about her behavior during the night, including her prudish behavior. Me: "You seem like a very 'all or nothing' kind of girl."HB: "Yeah, I guess that's how I've always been." Me: "I used to be like that. I dated a girl for three years, but since we broke up, I've just been living in the grey-area."
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Learn this routine. I've used it countless times now and it's money: We leave after a bit and I tell her I'm going to walk her home. I was drunk and tired, had work in the morning, and really thought she wouldn't fuck me. But dammit fellas, ALWAYS BE CLOSING! SWING FOR THE FUCKING FENCES! Ent r opy’ sGr eyAr eaRout i ne: Me: *Raises hand at about neck level* "If you think about relationships, and you say up here is a long-term relationship, with full commitment." *Puts other hand about a foot below the top hand* "...and down here is just a one night stand, absolutely no emotional involvement at all. Well, this area in between the two..." *pointing to area between hands* "...is a grey-area full of all sorts of interactions and relationships that two people can have. They can be just as fun or as fulfilling as either of the extremes, both people just have to be honest about their expectations."
HB: (they always say something like this) "I've never thought of it that way." Me: "Yeah, and you can even move back and forth in this area as the relationship evolves." HB: "I like it." Me: "I do too. I think it's perfect for people our age, and in our position." HB: "I guess I'll just have to be honest with you." This sets expectations -- she knows you'll care about her even if you aren't fully committed to her. It will ease her as to what you expect from her, and it'll even DHV you because it's such a fucking clever way to look at the whole damn mess.
As we're walking, I grab her again. "I'm going to steal another kiss from you." She doesn't hesitate or resist and begins kissing me. At first, it's slow and held back, but then she's getting way into it. Soon, it's a full blown make out and I start nipping at her neck and running my hands through her hair. She was getting turned on when I pulled her away and kept walking. She says, "You're trouble." I think to myself, "I'm in."
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We get to her place and I say I have to use the bathroom. She smiles and says, "Nice excuse to come in." We get in and amazingly, there was no LMR. We started fooling around and the clothes just started flying off. I don't think she had gotten laid in awhile because she REALLY wanted it. Allow me to step back for a second and verbally masturbate to you about how gor geoust hi sgi r li s.She’ s a runway model for local designers up here, but in my unfettered opinion, nude statues should be erected of her all over Boston. Once she got naked, my jaw dropped. Her body is flawless. She's tall, thin, tanned, toned but not ripped. Soft but no extra fat anywhere. Her breasts are nice and perky, her ass is tight yet round -- I quickly realized this is the hottest girl I have ever been with –no question -- a legitimate HB10. So anyway, the irony of everything is that for how prude and proper she had been for half a week, she was a fucking beast in the sack. I made her cum by fingering her, then she sat on my face and came again. When I was fucking her from behind I pulled on her hair and shoved her face into a pillow and she screamed, "God, have your way with me! Do anything you want!" Seriously, this girl had told me three hours earlier I couldn't kiss her. I fucking love women. Afterwards, she said, "Is this the grey area?" I replied, "It's just the beginning."
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LR - DAY2 THE CAPTAINJACK WAY This LR obviously is by the great CaptainJack. CJ is not only the best PUA I have ever seen in field but is the biggest influence on my game. Together we came up with the Same Night Lyas seminar. You can learn directly from CJ at www.Masssexualframing.com. You can also sign up for his amazing ecourse at www.Betheseducer.com . November 12/13, 2006 I look at the clock...a bright red 3:49 blinks to 3:50. "Oh! I didn't mean to do that!" she flips her hair and waves her hand as if it were a few degrees too hot in her bedroom. She pulls the covers closer and crinkles them up towards her neck. October 30th, turned out to be a pretty damn good night out for me. Fidelio, KinoMaster and I were out downing pitchers because the crowd was a bit sparse (being a Monday). I was practicing downing Michelob Ultra Lights - my goal is 7 seconds but 9 seconds is my best so far. Eventually I believe I'll be able to get one down in 7 seconds WITHOUT spilling. At least, that's my goal. I was contemplating having another practice session when I spied with my little eyes a slender Brunette, flat stomach, tattoo on back, perky tits, cute tight ass. She and her blonde friend burst on the scene all giggles and alighted on the table next to us. I vibed and sent and before you knew it they got out the digital camera. Here's a tidbit you may find useful (* cough * especially you momma's boys who are still scared to open * cough *):
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CaptainJack's Amazing Digital Camera Non-Verbal Sending Opener (TM): If you see a digital camera, look smile, lift your eyebrows and motion with your hand as if accepting change back from a cashier. If they see this masterpiece of non-verbal behavior they will often give your weaseley-ass an opportunity to game them by saying, "Hey, take a picture of us!" Now, don't be a good boy and take a pic...no. no. no. no! Take their digital camera and start taking pictures of random shit. The ceiling. A crooked one of the band. Your friends (KinoMaster and Fidelio) making the piece sign and whatnot. This should make them laugh or get up to try and take the camera back. About that time try to snap a pic of the girl lunging towards you. This will make a perfect neg as you look at the pic and laugh. If they do NOT lunge to get the camera back then you may take a picture. So, take it and then look at it and go "OMG! No!" and take another one and then look at it and shake your head, "Mmmm....let's try it one more time!" –Finally. take a picture and hand it to them. From here you can say, "What are we celebrating?" And, your pansy-ass-too-scared- toopen-because-I'm-a-mamas-boy will have easily opened a set and demonstrated several of the necessary behaviors to attract a honey. It turns out my Target was celebrating her 22nd b-day. In short, I gamed her in textbook fashion, got the TB... ...about this time I spied ANOTHER hot brunette with a nearly Retarded dude. I opened her, HBFinance from here on out. It went well. Now, the other girl was Turkish (I guessed Argentina or Brazil) and she was a belly dancer. (A belly dancer with no belly, ha). Two hotties both ooze sexuality and CJ is having a good time. So, CJ has a Jealousy Thread in full effect (dawg). HBTurkish sarge goes south because she called me one night, she and I were both drunk, and I told her I don't speak drunken midget dialect and to please speak English. She called me a "dick" and hung up on me.
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HBFinance broke a Day2 with me. So I ignored 2 texts and finally responded to one on Saturday during the day when she invited me out. Here's my normal Day2 plan: * Invite them over to my place under the pretense we're actually going to do something, instead we start drinking and then have sex. It usually works. This time however she invited me to a new club I wouldn't mind going to...After watching Klitschko beat the shit out of Calvin Brock I rolled over and arrived at her casa about 11:30 (I was supposed to be there at 10:00 but I'm a Klitschko fan). My plan at this point was to dominate the convo, start the drinks flowing and keep her in and seal the deal around 1:00ish. But, around 12:20 am I could tell she wanted to go out and she needed a venue change. So we went. I remember El Topo mentioned the new bar we were going to so I text him. We actually briefly run into him in a parking lot on the way there. He hits a nearby venue so I don't see him again. Luckily while there when she went to the bathroom I opened a cute blonde who promptly started dancing on me. I was locked in at the bar so it looked good. A few minutes later, noticing the attention from the blonde and my brunette, another hottie opened me on my ring. She feels the heat and makes out with me. We head out at 2:00 am. We get back to her place and she fixes another drink. My third Bacardi and diet. (Not even buzzed, thankfully). I run my normal comfort stack. She is loving it! She feels good. I brought Fight Club and we start watching it. Make out. Tits, LMR. Freeze. Unbutton pants. LMR. Freeze Oh god, this is gonna be FUN! I spank her until her ass is totally red, bite and scratch her ass. PAGE:
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LMR gone. Ass spanking is a form of arousal. With enough arousal LMR no longer exists. Ideally we want this to happen, every pick up. To get better at arousal learn about how the female body works. The following books are great resources:
The David Shade Manual (www.DavidShade.com) The Guide to Getting it on by Paul Joannides (http://www.amazon.com/Guide-Getting-Universes-CoolestInformative/dp/1885535104)
My Secret Garden by Nancy Friday (http://www.amazon.com/MySecret-Garden-Womens-Fantasies/dp/0671019872)
Two Bacardi and Diet Cokes, $14.50 Spanking a hot girl with huge tits and luscious ass, making her ass cheeks like two red half-melons, then having her ride till she squirts all over my stomach, manhood and upper thighs, Priceless. She didn't MEAN to have sex with me on the first night we went out, she says. But, when you started spanking me so hard, OMG! She throws off the covers, looks down at my nakedness. She grabs GIGANTOR in her warm little hands, slides down towards my hips, looks at me with those big brown doe eyes...let's do it again she whispers. P.S. Number three for Nov. and this one is a keeper.
LR - DAY GAME GERMAN GIRL: DOC HOLLIDAY The next LR is by Doc Holliday. Doc was a 19 year old virgin when I met hi m atadaygamesemi nar .Twoyear sl at erhe’ sbecomeal egi t i mat e authority on day game and works with both Sinns of Attraction and Practical Pick-up.
I t ’ sSept ember .Al lt hecol l egeki dshavej ustar r i vedi nBost onandt he weather is perfect.
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I ’ m outwi t hmybuddyandwe’ v ebeendoi ngdaygamef orasol i dt hr eehour s. I do a set then he does a set and we give each other feedback after each one.... A very effective system. We decide to call it a day and go back to his dorm and pass out before going to apar t yt hatni ght .Techni cal l yi t ’ smyt ur nandhepoi nt soutagi r lsi t t i ng alone outside reading Marx. She’ sar edhead,bl ueey es,goodbody ,aboutan8.I decide fuck it, why not. I open her direct
Doc: Hey HB: Hi! (I hear her accent) Doc: I noticed you as I was walking by and I knew that if I di dn’ tc ome a ndmee ty ouI ’ dbek i c k i ngmy s el fa l l da y . I ’ mDoc . HB: I ’ m__ _ __ __ Doc : Y oudon’ ts e eml i k ey ou’ r ef r omhe r e. HB: I ’ mf r omBe r l i n Doc: No Way! I love German girls! My ex was German and we wanted to go over there for Oktoberfest HB: I l ov eOk t ober f es t !I t ’ ss of un! Doc: Yeah I really want to go someday! So what are you doing in The States? HB: I ’ mher ef ors c hool . Doc : T ha t ’ sc ool , I went to _____ for a year and then moved to Boston and now I work in film. HB: I just have to say that I like your boots -HOOOOORAY New RocksDoc: Thanks. So what do you go to school for? HB: Dance
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We talk for about 15 minutes about what we do, what we want to do, and go off on a tangent about books. At some point I comment on her reading Marx and I tease her for being a Communist. I get her number and text the next day.
Doc: Do you speak text? :) HB: Ha! Ha! Yes I grew up trilingual. German, English, and Text! Doc: Awesome I text a lot and I expect prompt witty responses that remind me how cool you are. HB: Ah the excitement of raised expectations.
Ical lt henex tdayandgetherv oi cemai l .Shecal l smebackwhi l eI ’ mi nt he shower. I text her in the morning.
Doc :Al l oComr a de . How’ st heRedAr myt r ea t i ngy ou? HB: Ha! Ha! Comrade huh? Doc : T ha t ’ sr i g ht . I got t ag obutI ’ l l c a l l y out oni g ht . HB: Sounds good.
Here Doc uses some callback humor from their initial interaction. Callback humor is a great technique. Look for opportunities to create inside jokes, give nicknames, or number the girl in every interaction.
I call and her phone gives me an error message. I text her
Doc : Y ourphonewon’ tt a k emyc a l l s HB: Shit! Hold on! She calls me 15 minutes later. She has a prepaid phone and ran out of minutes. We talk for about an hour and build a lot of deep comfort. The conversation goes sexual at one point and I t el lherweneedt ot al kabouts omet hi ngel s eorI ’ m goi ngt ohav et oheral lt he di r t yt hi ngsI ’ mt hi nki ngaboutdoi ngt oher .Sher epl i es“ OhPl easedo. ”
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I find out where she lives and tell her how muchI ’ v eal way swant edt ogot oX coffee shop in her neighborhood. We make plans to meet there the next day. Her e’ sar eal l ysi mpl ewayt of i gur eoutl ogi st i csf oradat et hatst ar t snearher place. Where do you live is an innocent sounding question, yet with a little knowl edgeofwhat ’ sar oundy ourci t yy oucansetupadat enearherory ou. We get coffee and walk around her neighborhood until we end up at a park. We start to walk through it until we hear weird noises and she makes a rape joke. I laugh and accuse her of bringing me there to rape me. She just smiles. We walk around some more and we end up walking along a pond. We stop at onepoi ntandmak eoutf oraf ewmi nut es.Shesay si t ’ sget t i ngl at eandI tell her I ’ l lwal kherhome.Nowomanev ersays no to this and is the first step for getting in her place. I walk her home and ask to use her bathroom. Once again no woman is going to say no to this but they know what is going on when you ask. I piss and she of f er smet het our .I ’ mi n. The tour ends at her room and I start to escalate. I start by making out and feeling her ass through her pants, than I kiss her neck while feeling her tits under her shirt. I take her hand and put it on my cock and ask herwhatshe’ sdoi ngt ome.Thi si st hemostmoneyescal at i ont echni queev er .I t ’ s r eal l ydomi nantandl et st hem knowwhat ’ sup.Shest ar t st oundomybel t . I start to rub her pussy under her pants and over her underwear.
HB: Oh you want sex? Doc: Uhhh, yeah.
The girl is wearing more layers of clothi ngt hanany oneI ’ v eev ermet .One sweater, two tee shirts, a tank top, a bra, a pair of jeans, a pair of leggings, and a pair of her panties later I get her naked. I try to stick it in and she starts giving me some LMR. Just the tip, just for a second, j ustt os eehowi tf eel si sn’ tagoodwayt ogetar oundLMR. She gets up and goes to the bathroom.
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She comes back and I tell a really deep comfort story and start to escalate again. LMR usually comes from a lack of comfort and most of the time just backing off and sharing something really deep is enough to make sex happen. About ten minutes later I get her on top of me, she spits on my dick, and slides her sel font ome.Ther e’ sahar dpus handf i nal l yI ’ mi nsi deher . She’ sr eal l yt i ghtandwef uckf orawhile. Her bed is absolutely the loudest cr eaki estbedI ’ v ebeenonandt her ei snodoubti nmymi ndt hati twokeupal lof her roommates and neighbors. I get her to talk dirty to me in German. I have no idea what she said but it sounded hot. She gets up to pee afterwards and throws a long tee shirt on. It just covers the t ophal fherass.Herwal ki ngoutoft hatdoori soneoft hehot t estt hi ngsI ’ v eev er seen.Ther ei sj ustsomet hi ngaboutt hebot t om hal fofagi r l ’ sasst hatdr i v esme wild. We pass out and I leave in the morning. To learn more about Doc Holliday visit www.practicalpickup.com
LR - VIRGIN ONS: ENTROPY “ Dude , wha tt hef uc k ? ” We had just left the bar, myself, and some of the most senior guys in the Boston community.
“ Wha t ? ”I say. “ Y oudi dn’ tpul l . . . Wha tt hef uc k ? ” I had spent half the night talking to the same girl and these guys took turns rotating in for wingman duty with her dull friend. Toryn in particular could have won "Wingman of the Week" for his efforts. I knew in my mind that I should have been able to pull, but something just didn't feel right. She was definitely into me, but every time I tried to go sexual or seed the idea of going to my place, she seemed shy and timid. Was it her? Or was I
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j ustget t i ngr ust y?“ Idon’ tknow, I don’ tt hi nkshewasf eel i ngi tt oni ght . Maybeshe’ sapr ude. ”
They start laughing –busting my balls, no doubt. “ Ar e n’ ty ous uppos edt obeag ur u?I t houg htg ur usAL WAY Spul l ed. ” “ S e r i ous l y , i sthis what guys pay you to teach? Two hour conversations a ndaphonenumber ? ” “ Y e a h, g r ea tpul l t he r e, buddy, she was begging for it and you just wa l k e da wa y . ”Mor el a ug ht e r . Myi ndi g na t i on. “ L ookg uy s , i twa s n’ ti nt hec a r dst oni g ht . ”I am defending myself. “ Ha-ha!Bul l s hi t …y ouwer eha r dl ye s c a l a t i ng ! ” "Don't start making excuses now, Entropy!" I s na p:“ F uc ky oug uy s !I ’ mg oi ngt of uc kt ha tg i r l ’ sbr a i nsoutt hi swee k a ndt he npos ta nL Rj us tt os pi t ey oua l l . ” T he yr oa ri nl a ug ht e r . “ Good!Doi t ! ” The night, overall, was pleasant and uneventful. The four of us convened at a favorite venue and played the "give me a word" approaching game. The game starts with the four of us standing around and taking turns opening sets. The other three guys choose a word to give to whoever is opening -- ideally, the harder the word, the better. With word in hand, the PUA must then open a set using that word in the first sentence. Some of the better ones that night included: dingleberry, fulcrum, scabbard, and schmorgusbord. Despite our best efforts, most of our sets hooked. The set in question was actually opened by Groove -- a two-set of HB8's. Mr. Awesome and I arrived later and somehow we segued into the set and ended up inadvertently taking it over.
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I pulled Groove aside and offered to give it back, but he said it wasn't hooking as well for him so they were all mine. I singled out my target and began gaming. And by gaming, I mean not gaming. Recently, I've removed ALL attraction game from my arsenal. No banter, teasing, takeaways, qualification, cocky-funny, DHV's, negs, compliance tests, shit tests, routines, gimmicks, fuzzy top hats or magic tricks. Nothing...Nada... Zilch! Just me... nothing else... Just me! And that's been the point of this experiment: it's just me .., my complete and unabridged self. I've been focusing on getting as personal and deep as possible as soon as possible -- to build a deep emotional bond with a girl within a few hours. Sounds crazy, right? Well, it sure as hell seemed crazy for awhile. Up until this night, most sets I did this with would give me weird looks, or I'd creep them out. Some set went well for awhile, but inevitably I'd weird them out by trying to get too deep and personal too quickly. When you ask a girl what she would do if she only had one day to live can be a little intense when she's drunk and has only known you for five minutes. But I ’ m digressing. Theoretically, in my mind, I knew this could be some powerful shit. I think the concept of attraction is so misunderstood in the community. Literally half of the shit we do when we go out is quixotic and unnecessary. So in effort to prove my hypothesis, I was experimenting. I hook the target into a conversation about downloading music or something else -- pretty bland. She doesn't seem too excited to talk to me, but I guess I'm more exciting than nothing, so she humors me with conversation. Then, I slowly traverse the conversation from music to art to photography to what she does (graphic design), her passions, where she's from and her general life story. I don't grill her, but lead her by sharing these same things myself. This brings up a good concept; the idea that attraction, comfort and seduction are not static phases. This means that you can hook into comfort right away in a set and retroactively build attraction through the things that weknow bui l dat t r act i on.Li kesoci alpr oof ,t easi ng,et c…
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Here Entropy has hooked into comfort. He has built compliance by getting into a deep conversation, then by making her answer these kind of questions. Thevenuegoesf orl astcal l .I t ’ s1AM.I invite her to hop across the street with me. Testing for compliance, one, two, three … Chi ckmeet i ngwi t hher friend, and she complies. Sweet! I ’ m get t i ngsomewhere. We jump across the street. The girls take what seems like a 2 hours “ bat hr oom br eak”–I actually start to think they changed their minds and left. But finally, they come back. I sit my girl down with me and continue. We talked about our families, getting dumped by ex-boyfriends and girlfriends (a blacklisted topic in PUA theory) our failures and fears, hopes and dreams, blah, blah, blah. All the meanwhile, the deeper we got, the more emotional we got, the more I my emotions escalated. By the end of the night, we were leaning into each other, hands on each other's legs, smiling and staring into each other's eyes (no false takeaways, body rocking or darting eyes). My instincts told me to kiss her, but I didn't really want to. We actually had a significant conversation, being the "bar make-out guy" would seem to taint it. Later on, I'd tell myself. I pussy’ dout ! I planted seeds for a bounce and tried to set up sexual and adventurous frames to no avail. "What's the most adventurous thing you've done?" was met with "I'm not very adventurous."... My innuendo and overt sexuality was met with timid and shy eyes. There'd be no SNL that night. Chastisement from my wings aside, I did get her number... and valiantly vowed to fuck her the coming week. We texted back and forth over the next few days.... Again nothing exciting; "What's up?" "How's your day?" Blah, blah, blah, etc. The Date: It's another few nights before I'm able to meet up with her. She's at a bar nearby with some of her friends, so I head down there to see what happens. PAGE:
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It's literally the only night I have free to hang out with her in the next week, and she's going back to LA for the summer, so probably my only shot. Despite having only one opportunity with her, I was still determined to stick to my game-plan. I show up and we make small talk about my shirt and hers, but it's quickly back into deep conversation. My job, my life goals, plans, desires and values followed in turn by hers. More kino. More emotional discussions. More kino. Still no makeout, not even a hint of pulling her home. Yet, I could tell she was really into me. Then it happened. Finally! The breakthrough I knew was possible but hadn't yet experienced. We were leaning up against each other and still hadn't kissed, and there was a lull in the conversation. We just held eye contact and smiled for about five seconds. And then suddenly, I felt something really weird. It started in my stomach and then in my chest.... wait... I... I really... I really LIKE this girl. She's great. I really, really like her. Like... I feel an emotional connection. I genuinely care about her. Sex aside, I actually give a shit. I had hit a place WITHIN MYSELF within a few hours, something that I had only reached with girlfriends and girls I dated for months. I looked into her eyes and could tell she felt the same thing. At that moment, I knew she was mine for the rest of the night. There wasn't a shred of doubt, there were no logistics to deal with (her friends simply left me alone with her with no questioning -- this whole "being genuine" thing has its benefits), no excuses, no insecurities, worries, fears. She trusted me and we would be together for the night. No question. I was right. At about 1AM I told her I was tired and had work and wanted to leave. Every other time I've said this, it's been either as a false takeaway, or to take advantage of her "buying temperature" for the SNL. This time I was serious. She came outside with me, then walked home with me, then sat on my bed with me, where we continued to talk about deeper and more personal things. What she shared was interesting. She hated bars. She only went because her friends did. Up until a year ago, she had been overweight (she lost 35 pounds in a little less than a year -- the hardest thing she's ever done or
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worked for). Guys would never talk to her until recently when she lost the weight. As a result, she finds herself completely mistrusting any guy's intentions whatsoever. She had never gone home with a guy from a bar before. When she did feel comfortable with a guy, her shyness prevented her from being too sexual or forward with him. She had a string of guys she dated by never a serious boyfriend. Only guys who were afraid to get close to her that she was afraid to get close to. But she said she felt like I knew her better than any of those other guys, even though we had only spent a few hours together. She trusted me. She said that she completely trusted me. I finally kissed her. As the night went on, I turned out the light and began fooling around with her. This is when she dropped the bomb: she told me she was a virgin. I've been with five virgins before (well, now six). Most were girlfriends, but in every case, the girl was conflicted, anxious and dead serious about not having sex. I tell guys that LMR with virgins is measured in months, not minutes. It's true. The last virgin I was with would make out with me at parties for months until finally one night she just told me to do it. I had tried to pull all the stops with her -- all of the LMR tactics, the comfort tactics, freeze-outs, etc. I told her that it was OK, I understand, secretly hoping she'd think I was so caring and sensitive and then fuck me. To put it bluntly, trying to ONS a virgin is like playing tennis against a brick wall... you lose. My reaction was different this time. As soon as she told me this, I immediately resigned myself to the thought of fucking her. Without hesitation, and with complete sincerity I said, "That's OK, you don't have to do anything you don't want to." There was a pause. Then she said it: "I want to." I won't go into the details, but she was so nervous she was shaking. I had to spend at least 10 minutes just holding her naked until she calmed down PAGE:
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enough to do it. I double-checked, triple-checked, quadruple-checked. She was adamant. This was it. It was time to do it. "It feels right," she said. The sex was actually wonderful. It was the most comfortable, passionate and exciting one night stand I've ever had. My goal had been to get a one night stand through nothing but emotional connection. Not only did I succeed, but I created an incredible, real and visceral experience between myself and another person. It's one of the most effortless sets I've had, and it reaped some of the most insane results I've ever had. I closed A VIRGIN within four hours with NO LMR. I couldn't wrap my head around it. It goes against so much the community regards as textbook and sacrosanct. I couldn't sleep. The next morning wasn't awkward, cold or harsh. It was emotional and pleasant. She's moving. We have no intention of ever seeing each other again. Amazingly, this was fine. She didn't suddenly want to be my girlfriend or date me or have a long distance relationship. She simply appreciated what I shared with her; for giving her such a pleasant experience. She thanked me for taking her virginity. Wai tasecond… She THANKED me for taking her virginity... Then without a "call me" or a "good bye" she kissed my cheek and left. You can learn more about Entropy on his blog at www.entropy4.blogspot.com
DATES BROKEN DOWN BY SINN: Okl et ’ sbr eakdownt heel ement sofagooddat e.I ’ m goi ngt obr eak it down into two categories logistics and escalation. We’ l lst ar toutbyt al ki ngaboutl ogi st i cs. The most important thing in my mind about dates is where they start. There's only one correct answer here and that's at your place.
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Now this assumes you live near where your date is going to happen. If you don't something is wrong and you should plan a date closer to your place. Or plan the date close to where she lives and try to get back to her place as you read about Doc Holliday doing earlier in the book. There are always cool neighborhood bars, coffee shops, restaurants etc, near where you/her live. You just need to get out and actually find them. But makesur et hey’ r eopent hatni ghtoryoumi ghtenduphavi ngt oi mpr ovi seon the fly like Entropy had to. Remember to remain flexible and creative. You need to look for opportunities while having a plan. So you've set up your date and you tell her to meet you at your place. But I don’ tt el lt hem t hey’ r emeet i ngmeatmypl ace.I tell them to meet me on the corner of the streets I live on. When I lived in Hollywood I told girls to meet me on the corner of Hollywood and Wilcox. Then I always tell them to "call me when you get there and I'll come out." When they call I come out to meet them, but WHOOPS: “ Forgot my wallet!”Thatmeanswehavet ogobackup.I t ' svi t al l yi mpor t antt hatyouget the girl used to being in your place without you trying to make a move on her. My wing Captain Jack alternatively tries to escalate when they come in and if he can't close them then (Which is rare for him) he’ l ltake them on the date. That's another strategy though he does have super powers that mere mortals should use that at their own risk. However with the correct sexual framing and arousal it is possible. Most importantly showing a woman your home takes away the fear of the unknown for her and it will be far easier to get her back to your place later. The next thing EVERY date needs is multiple venues. The more places you spend time with a woman in, the longer it will feel like she has known you. My particular date goes through up to 7 different locations, not counting mypl ace.I t ’ sver yi mpor t antt hatyoul eadwhengoing from venue to venue. You never ask a woman if she wants to go check out this and that bar. Instead yout el lheryou’ r egoi ngt ohi tt henextbar . I fshedoesn’ twantt o or she suggests something else, remain flexible, the i deai st hatyou’ r eal eadernotadi ct at or .
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Using multiple venues is how you can do dinner dates without setting up a traditional dinner date. In the middle of doing something else just casually mention how hungry you are and suggest stopping in somewhere for a bite. While you're on the date you should be filling in the empty canvas of your life. Now is the time to talk about your hopes and dreams, the things you are passionate about, your friends, and family, hobbies, etc. It's time to literally be yourself. One of the things every girl will think when she's on a date with you is: "How would my life be different if this guy were my boyfriend". So you want to make sure you paint a vivid picture of your life. I tend to rant about things, because that's how I am. I also run my grounding sequence on my first date, as I know I'll have her undivided attention for at least 25 minutes. A grounding routine is a fancy name for exchanging life stories. The more you get to know what motivates another person and what their hopes, fears, dreams and aspirations are, the more you understand each other. The more you guysunder st andeachot hert hemor eyoucanunder st andeachot her ’ s sexual sides. I t ’ sof t enaskedi fyoushoul dkeepi tsuper f i ci alorgetdeeper .Myansweri s that you should get deep but keep it fun! A lot of guys will make the mistake of neglecting attraction entirely on the date. You need to remind her periodically of why she was attracted to you in the first place. Fun is the most important factor in all of your dealings with women but especially with dates. If she's having fun whatever you are actually doing doesn't matter. Conversely, if she isn't having fun you could be doing her favorite thing in the world and she'll hate it ... and by proxy you. So keep things playful and flirty the entire way, but don't be afraid to demonstrate your passion and the things you actually care about.
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KISSING ON DATES You should be kissing the girl as soon as you think you can. If you made out when you met her then you have to be able to tell when she hugs you hello if you can kiss her right away. Usually I will hold off on kissing in the beginning to build some more sexual tension for later. Now we’ r egoi ngt odi scusshow t oescal at et hi ngsf ur t her . The most important thing about building sexual tension so you can get her back to your place is to break the physical barriers early on. You need to re-establish touching as soon as you see her. When you see her you need to give her a big hug and then push her away. You want to retain the reset model of touching where you break all physical contact after every escalation. Butyoudon’ twantt owast eanyt i mei nescal at i ngt het ouchi ng.You shoul dbehol di nghandswhenyou’ r ewal ki ngordr i vi ngt ot hef i r stvenue.You also want to look for random opportunities to kiss her, especially i fi tdi dn’ t feel right at the beginning. The Don kisses girls at a random traffic light then pushest hem awayandwal ksacr osst hest r eet .I t ’ sagr eatt echni que. One of my favorite ways to build sexual tension is through the use of the almost kiss. I learned this from Future and it is still my favorite way to kiss a girl. Somewhere on my date I will look at herwhi l eshe’ st al ki ngI ’ l lsay:You know i t ’ sr eal l yhar df ormet opayat t ent i ont owhatyou’ r esayi ngwhenI keep thinking about kissing you. But I know we’ r enotready for that yet, so I t el lyouwhatwe’ r egoi ngt odo.We’ r egoi ngt o“ almost kiss.” Then I get them to pinky swear not kiss me and I promise not to kiss them. Then you get really close to their lips for about 2 seconds. This is great for building sexual tension - because a few minutes later you can call it back andsayyou’ r er eadyf oranot heral mostki ss. Another thing you want to do to build sexual tension is alternate sexual indicators of interest with regular qualification statements and comfort frames.
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Dates are all about comfort, so first and foremost the focus of our interaction should be on making the girl as comfortable with us as possible, by letting her get to know us. By demonstrating who we are and where we came from, she gets to know us and feels more comfortable around us. She’ sst ar t i ngt ogetani deaofhow you are going to act at any given time. We also need to get her to become comfortable with our touch and our indicators of interest. That means we are going to be cycling qualification and compliments into our comfort material. We need to hit on the girl a lot, and demonstrate that we are attracted to her both physically as well as for her non-physical attributes. Then we need to introduce sexuality. Qualification is the mechanism we use to move between comfort and seduction. This fractionating between hitting on her sexually, qualifying her and building comfort is what leads to getting laid on dates. Yousaw someext r emeexampl esoft hi si nal lofElTopo’ sLayreports. But notice how he sexualizes EVERY interaction. The next key step in getting girls back to your place is handling closing logistics. You need to have a reason to bring her back to your place. I always loan girls books at the end of the date or offer to let them come up to use the bathroom and get a glass of water, if I coul dn’ tgett hem upanyot herway. Asyousaw i nBr adP’ sr epor tyoucanuseanyt hi ngevenavi deogamest o get girls back to your place. The key idea here is that you have SOME reason to go back. This is where having a cool movie, a great new piece of music and even a cool or different type of wine or liquor like Absinthe comes into play. We want to create plausible deniability, sot hatshedoesn’ tf eelgui l t yf or comingup.I t ’ sal soi mpor t antt ouseaf al set i meconst r ai ntwhenbr i ngi nga girl home, i fonl yt omakehert hi nkshecan’ tspendt heni ght☺
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Lastly you need to let her know that you are interested in having sex with her .Andi t ’ sherf aul tf orbei ngso sexy … Thi si swhatpr eppi ngi sal labout . Prepping statements simply let a woman know what you are planning to do later with her. Saying something like: Youhavenoi deawhatI ’ mt hi nki ng about doing to you right now.... stop being cute! This is both a prep and a release, which helps to build up the tension. But you have made a sexual indicator of interest. The more of these you can do the better. This is the art of coquetting. I learned this from all the exotic dancers I dated. You sexually pull girls in, then push them away and take away their sexuality with a tease and a comfort building conversation. Make sure you demonstrate interest in her and show that you want to have sex with her. Now you guys know how to set up and start dates, the amount of venues to take them through, what to talk about while on a date, and how to escalate, build sexual tension and get girls home with you. Pl usyou’ veseensomegr eatexampl esf r om someoft hebesti nt hewor l d. I t ’ st i met omoveont o…
SAME NIGHT LAYS What is a same night lay? The term, coined by Captain Jack in 2005 refers to a sexual relationship that starts on the first night and continues. This is directly opposed to the one night stand, which is a one-time only thing. CaptainJack is the unquestioned master of the same night lay. In fact, I moved from Los Angeles to Dallas to hang out with CJ and learn his secrets. That resulted in the infamous same night lays seminar. To learn more about the same night lays seminar go to www.Sinnsofattraction.com
LR: CAPTAINJACK BLOWS UP A CAR: CAPTAINJACK Hey Guys: My nights just keep getting wilder! So my wing and I decide to go to one of our favorite sarging places. I'm pea-cocked, but I wait too friggin'
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long before opening a set, so I'm frozen for about the first 30 minutes (sucks!)... Anyway, I finally gather the requisite balls to chat to someone; a mixed 2set and I get AMOG'ed - damn - wasn't expecting that shit - he was pretty damn GOOD! But, I still felt good after opening the set, so I opened another. It didn't go anywhere, but regardless ... I'm feeling better! On the fourth set, another mixed 2-set I opened using David Bowie... Girl: "No, he's too old -- but I LOOOOOOVE your hat."
Me: "Oh yeah? Cool, my girlfriend got it for me. She's a stripper (total lie - no gf) and she knows where to get all that crazy shit." HBprogrammer: "Oh, you have a girlfriend? Too bad!" Me: "Yeah. She's not here." HBprogrammer: "That's good!"
So, I ALREADY have attraction. But, do I need to neg? I decided no. But, there was still the AFC to worry about.
Me: "Introduce me to your boyfriend - it's the polite thing to do." HBpr og r a mmer : “ ohhi m?He' snotmyboy f r i end. " AFC slinks into the distance - shoulders slump (poor guy!) Me : ( s ens i ngs he' ss t i l l abi ti nt e r e s t edi nhi m)“ Awwww, c omeon!He' d be perfect for you! Buys you flowers all the time - call you ten times a day" This is one of the best openers for a mixed 2 set wheret heguyobvi ousl yi sn’ t doing well with the girl. You walk up and whisper this in her ear: “ He' dbe perfect for you! Buys you flowers all the time - call you ten times a day". Then wal kaway.I fi t ’ sonshe’ l lpul lyouback.
HBprogrammer: "OMG, no! I can't stand that!"
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Me: Silent at this point, I'm getting ai's from about three different sets. So, I just chill to see if she says anything. She reopens me about something. I go into my "Nazi ring" story... HBprogrammer: "oh, i thought you were catholic?" Me: *laughing my ass off* Me: "Ooooh, are you catholic. OMG, don’ t tell me your catholic! Every catholic chick I've been out with is into handcuffs and shit! We can't talk anymore!"(semi-back turn with smile) ... A great sexual frame. HBprogrammer: *grabs my arm and pulls me over* "regular fucking is great for me" To make a long story short, I bounced her outside for another 15-20 minutes of conversation. Found out she's a programmer (like I used to be), blah, blah, make out, she throws out hints like "do you have to be at work early?" and "How far away do you live?" Thesehi nt sar egr eatquest i onst oaskgi r l swhenyou’ r el i ni ngupl ogi st i cs. We get to her car and chat for another 20-30 minutes - at this point there is about 1 hour total invested in the sarge - we decide to go to her place. FOOLS MATE! Way too easy! NO LMR! Shit, hardly even any comfort. After the 1.5 hour fuck session we're lying there in bed and she's says: "ooh, Captain Jack, you're the best! OMG that tongue! BLAH, BLAH, BLAH" and there's a knock on the door. Of course, my sphincter puckers because I'm thinking, "Dude! You're about to get jacked. SETUP!" She comes back. By this time, I'm fully dressed and looking for possible weapons, in case I need to fight my way out of this setup. I tt ur nsouti t ’ sthe police and they tell her that a white Pontiac Grand Am has caught fire in the parking lot. So we sit on the bed for a minute and we're laughing at the poor schmuck whose car caught on fire...
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Wait a mi nut e!Mycari swhi t e!And,i t ’ sa Sunbird not a Grand Am. Could they have told her the wrong model? I go downstairs and the cops and fire dept. are out there. SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT! DAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMN! Cop says: "Sir, it looks like a fire started in the engine compartment." Now, I have NO CAR. HBProgrammer drives me home. And, guess what? My BRAND, SPANKING NEW AUDIO RECORDER WAS IN THE CAR. Now I ’ m Captain Jack Sparrow (car-less in DFW)
LR: DRUNK REDNECKS: CAPTAIN JACK Thi sone’ saboutdrunk rednecks... a HOT bartendress ... Karaoke night ... and more drunk rednecks. I didn't have any intention of gaming last night. I was just out to grab a bite to eat. I had just finished reading about half of Tucker Max's book "I hope they serve beer in hell" and laughing so hard my stomach muscles hurt. I think laughing makes you hungry. As luck would have it the bartendress at the restaurant I went to was an 8.5 or 9, tiny blonde with pert breasts. A real blonde as her eyebrows revealed.
HBBartendress: "Would you like a beer?" CaptainJack: "Slow down! Let me start off with a diet coke and we'll get to the alcohol later..." I ordered the food from her and chatted with the male bartender a bit. When she'd try to chime in and just say "Um, yeah" or "Okaaaaay" I asked her what drink was good and she made me some silly espresso martini drink.
HBBartendress: "Was it good?"
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CaptainJack: "Pretty good. 10% chocolate, 90% Butane" I strung a few more of these wisecracks together to make her giggle and she started opening up. I ran Strawberry fields on her and she ate it up. My next objective was to run the Godiva Chocolate Pattern on her since she admitted to me her favorite thing in the world is chocolate. But, two dorks came in and JUST HAPPENED to be in town on business from HER little bitty ass home town in Michigan. That sucked because it pulled her attention away from me for a while as they discussed stupid things about their town. Finally, I managed to get her attention again and for some reason I went Juggler on her ass. Here CaptainJack demonstrates his willingness to experiment with different st yl es.Youshoul dn’ tbecome dogmatic when learning the game. Always remember that rules exist to be broken! We talk about vacations, trips, future goals and dreams. I make her laugh she looks deeply in my eyes and smiles and we melt into that dreamy Jugglerish rapport state. Until she says that she LOVES cold weather and hates the beach. I smile for a sec while I think "Are you fucking stupid? You LIKE cold weather? You hate the beach?" Guys can like cold weather or warm or whatever. But, I can't stand chicks that like cold weather. I don't know why. I snap to attention and say, "That's horrible. Cold weather sucks"
HB: "What?" CJ: "Gimme the beach, the sun..." HB: "I hate the heat. I whine about it...especially humidity." I can understand not liking humidity...I forgive her...but only because those tits are so nice.
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We get into relationship talk and she tells me she has a 10-month old little girl at home from a psycho ex boyfriend. She has a child? That body is so tight I can't imagine how. I start talking about the Hooka bar to prepare my Time Bridge when those 2 idiots interrupt us. This is the concept of seeding. Before you set up a date with a girl (or time bridge) you want to first set the scene. The way you set the scene is with a story that happens to take place where you want to take her. That way when you set up the date, she’ sal r eadyhear dabouti t . She leaves for about 15 minutes and comes back in a decidedly different mood. Anyway, I ask for my check and decide to re-initiate my Time Bridge. HB: "I don't get out much with work and the baby and all....but thanks!" Something happened in that 15 minutes, but I'll never know what, I felt like the TB and # close was imminent. I could've... should've... spent a little more time getting her back in state before doing the TB again, but oh well. Hindsight is 20/20. The local bar is just a short walk from the restaurant so I head over. It is pretty friggin' crowded for a cold Sunday night. I roll in and start marking out Targets. I open an HB9 at the bar. Instead of using a canned opener I just open my mouth and start speaking.
CJ: "hi!" HB: "Hi!" CJ: "You going to sing?" ** Sunday night is Karaoke night ** HB: "Nooooooo, they would ask me to leave. I can't sing" CJ: "Ha ha, so you don't sing in the shower? That's where I get all my singing done." HB: "Ha Ha"
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This is something that KinoMaster and I realized earlier that day. When I use canned shit I can usually just keep threading along. But, when I open with something unplanned, I often don't have that thing in my head that says, "New thread ... Now!" It is vitally important to get off your opener. We call this milking the opener and it is a very common mistake, especially among beginners. You can have a 20 minute conversation about jealous girlfriends, buti ti sn’ t helping you. The bartender handed her the drinks and she smiled and said "bye!" as she pranced off. Ah well, if I seeheragai n… I suddenly felt eyes on me. An HB that was talking to a dude who looked amazingly like one of the Hanson brother singers, turned to look at me. I look back and smile. She smiled.
HB: “ Ca nI f e el y ours c a r f ? ” CJ : “ T e l l meaj ok ef i r s t . ” HB: CJ: “ We l l , Ig ues st ha t ’ l l do…” Shest ar t sr ubbi ngoni t .Thi si sasi mpl epeacocki t em.I t ’ sj ustaf l uf f yki nd of scarf. The thing looks like a feather boa (without the feathers). I also have two watches on the same wrist and a black sweat band on the other wrist. I am hatless since I wore my hat Saturday night. She rubs it and I get ready to run some tight game and blow the Hanson Brother out …whenI feel ANOTHER set of hands on my scarf. I look over and see two rednecks. One of them is so drunk he is wavering. The other is obviously drunk, but still has most of his motor functions working. He is wearing a Mighty Mouse T-Shirt with a cowboy hat and jeans. Mighty Mousesays,“ Dude,whyar eyouwear i ngt hi s?
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AF CDr unk : “ Ar ey oug a a a a a a a a a y ? ” Mi g ht y Mous e: “ Y e a h, ma n, t ha ts c a r fi ss og a y . ” CJ : “ Ha!Ha!”When MightyMouse decides it would be a good idea to try and TAKE the scarf off my neck. I grab it just in time.> Mi g ht y Mous e : “ Yous houl dn’ tbewea r i ngt hi sg a yt hi ng ” CJ :“ I ’ mnota boutt ot a k ef a s hi ont i psf r omag uywea r i ngaMi g ht y Mouse t-shirt with a cowboy hat.” Now, I don’ tcondonet hi s,but it was highly fun. So as I said it, I stepped into their space and widened out. I put one hand on my side belt loop and widened my stance. Then, I tilted my head back and looked down at them. They got visibly nervous. One of their other friends noticed me fanning out like a Cobra and noticed them beginning to cower back. He pulled both of them aside and had a heated discussion with them. During all of this, the HB that I was about to take from Hanson had moved to the other side of them. Turns out she was friends with MightyMouse and AFCDrunk. Shortly after that AFCDrunk wobbled off to the bathroom. Not even a minute later, there is a commotion and the bouncers are escorting AFCDrunk out of the place. MightyMouse looks at me and asks if I know wher et hatchi cki s…Ideci det ohavemor ef unatMi ght yMouse’ s expense.
CJ : “ Y oume a nt ha tc hi c kt ha twa sa l l ov e rme ? ” Mi g ht y Mous e: “ Y e a h, myf r i e ndg otk i c k edouta nds he’ smyonl yr i de now. ” CJ : “ Awdude, s hewa sc ha t t i ngupt hos ethree bl a c kg uy sov e rt her e. ” (In reality, she stopped briefly to chat with them but stayed no more than 30 seconds.) And, this is something else I don’ tcondone,but MightyMouse had already pissed me off and revenge can be fun. Actually, there were only two guys over there to begin with not three, but it allowed me to set this up. PAGE:
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CJ :“ Wa i t ?T her e’ sonl ytwo g uy st he r enowa nds he’ sg one. I ’ dg o c he c kont heot hers i des he’ spr oba bl yha ng i ngoutwi t ht ha tbl a c k dude . ” Mi g ht y Mous e : “ F uc k enni g g e r s ! ” After I did it I thought about what a stupid idea it was (even though it was fun). I coul d’ vest ar t ed a fight for no reason.... stupid... I shoul dn’ thavedone it, and, now I regretted it. But it was fun, because the black dudes were just out having fun and hitting on girls, just like every other guy in the bar. It wasn’ tright for me to potentially endanger them. Unfortunately, I only thought about that AFTER I made the comment. I really doubted MightyMouse would do anything, but with enough alcohol you never know. As fate would have it, another HB7+ sauntered up to the bar right next to me. Iexecut ed( f l awl essl y)myopenerf ort heni ght …
CJ : “ Y oug onnas i ng ? ” HBHot E y es : * g i g g l e s *“ OhNooooo, I a mt ooemba r r a s s ed. ”Bl a h, Blah, Blah. We spend the next 45 minutes talking. Apparently she is waiting for a friend, butdoesn’ thaveacel lphonet ocal landseewher eshei s. Whi l et al ki ngMi ght yMousei snot i ci ngt hatI ’ m notact ual l ygayandI have more game than him. This irritates him and he starts chatting with every chick who walks by. He gets shot down, repeatedly. A dude walks by and pukes on this cute Asian girl. She stands up and lets out this shriek, as she views what could easily pass for Clam Chowder all over her jeans and the bottom of her shirt. About a minute later there is another commotion and Hanson and his buddies are tossed out.
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A dudewal ksupandst ar t schat t i ngus…hebuysmeandHBHot Eyesdrinks …t hent hi ngsst ar tt ogetal i t t l ehazy.I spy another chick who is probably an HB7 face with a killer HB9 body.
She fingers me ov e ra nds a y s , “ My friend thinks you are soooooo HOT!” Her friend looks almost EXACTLY like that red-headedchi ckon“ That70s show”–for some reason I can’ tgameof fofani nt r oduct i on.SoI just kind of fumble around. My HBHotEyes is left ALONE at the bar where I was… While talking to HBHotRedHead some fat chicks walk by and look seductively at me –then hands me a shot. I t ’ sJ agermeister and I don’ t particularly care for it. HBHotRedHead is kind of boring. I think my social proof has her overpowered or something. I tell HBFriend I ’ l lbeback.Ri ghtbef or eI go, she hands me another shot of Jagermeister. I now have two shot sofJ aeger …one in each hand. I try to give it away but nobody wants it. So I decide to down them both. Yuck! I faintly hearsomeonei nt hebackgr ound“ Dude!Doubl eofJ ager ! ! ! ” I stroll over to HBHotEyes and MightyMouse is saying something to her. She rolls her eyes and turns back to me. She says,“ Hekeepssayi ngnott ogohomewi t hyoubecauseyou’ r egay. ” I pull her to the other side and she asks to borrow my cell.
CJ : “ Ohg od, y ou’ r eg oi ngt obea s k i ngf ormywa l l e tnex t …” HB: “ I ’ l l l e a v emypur s e…j us tl etmebor r owi t . ” She says her friend is at so-and-so bar and asks if I want to follow her. CJ : “ Y e s, I do! ” BUT at this point I havehad… •Anespr essomar t i ni •3beer s •2RoyalFucks
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•2shot sofJ aeger •3St ar bur st s I tell her that I would, but I can’ tandshel ookssadandsays“ Well, at least let me buy you a shot before I go. ” So she grabs my hand and leads me to the other side, where she buys me a shot of Patron. Then she number closes me, gives me a sexually nasty hug and leaves. I go back to HBFriend and she starts dancing sexy on me. I sit there and then get up. I start talking to her guy friend.
CJ : “ Dude , y ous houl dj us tt a k eherhomer i g htnow. ” AF C: “ Aw, we ’ r ej us tf r i ends , wel i v ei nt hes a mec ompl ex ” She takes me onto the dance floor and shoves me onto the stage and gives me ANOTHER lap dance. Her face was plain, but her body was SUPER HOT. When we come back HBHotRedhead pulls her aside and they have an ani mat edconvo.They’ ver eal l yonl yknowneachot herf oraboutanhouror two. HBHotRedhead gives me a sad look. When your level of social proof and pre-selection hits a certain point, you don’ thavet or unmuchgameatal l . I bounced her and her friend to a restaurant; sort of l i keDenny’ s…we at e…then called a cab. When we got back to her place, she had a cat and started asking me dumb shit like“ What do you do for a living”and other bullshit. Thi si st hef unnyt hi ng…aswe’ r et al ki ngshest ar t sundr essi ngl i kei t ’ sno big deal. She talks, and in order to hear and respond I follow her. She changes into a shirt and some shorts and walks into the bathroom and pees. All the while just talking like this is all normal. And, her body was MUCH hotter than I imagined it.
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We fucked in her bed. I don’ tl i kesl eepi ngatsomeoneel se’ spl ace.I t sucks. I feel so weird when I wake up naked and some strange girl’ s cat is looking at me about 6 inches from my face. I t ’ sagoodt hi ngI di dn’ thavemycart her ebecausei twassowei r dt hatI woul d’ vegot t eni nmycarandl ef t–probably still a little too drunk to drive. I debated on the way to my car if I was going to number close her. I TRULY wanted to fuck her again, because she probably has one of the top three bodi esI ’ veeverseennaked. She talked about the most boring shit on the way to my car. I don’ tknow hernameanddi dn’ tnumber close her. Another same-night lay. Cool. This is a classic example of Captain Jack Method. Hang out until sex happens
LR: CAPTAINJACK GIVES HBTEACHER A LESSON IN TAKEAWAYS April, 2006 Tribulus and I chat on the phone for awhile and decide to meet up and have some dinner. I ’ vebeenmovi ngal ldaysoI ’ mt i r edashel l …backhur t s…knees hur t …muscl essor e…soI t el lhi mI ’ m notsur ehow muchsar gi ngI ’ l lact ual l y do, but we can at least just hang out and have some fun. There are always reasons not to go out, there are always reasons not to open sets. At the end of the day all that matters is whether or not you do the appr oaches.I fyoudot heappr oachesyougetbet t er ,i fyoudon’ tyouwon’ t . I t ’ sassi mpl east hat . (I missed Wednesday night sarging. While I was reading on the couch my eyeskeptcl osi ng…unt i lI wasf astasl eep…Ki noMast ercal l edat9: 15andI had plans to sarge with the AsianPlayboy but I was already in dreamland so I told KinoMaster I was too pooped and texted APB and fell back to sleep –for 12 straight hours of freaky dreams brought on by reading too much sociobiology.)
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I get to TGI Fridays about 9:30 and Tribulus is there. He starts gaming the l i t t l ebl onde/ bl ueeyedbar t endr essatt hebarwhi l eI ’ m seat edaf ew f eetaway at a nearby table. He used Email Breakup. When she comes over we take turns pumping her BT. I show Tribulus my modified version of Spells Opener laced with NLP embedded commands. I overheard that she was married when Tribulus talked to her earlier, so I KNEW anything we did would have to be pure bad boy sexual stereotype. So when she comes over and asks me if the girl and I were serious, I say:
CJ : “ I ’ mne v ers er i ous . ” HB: “ Di dy oubuyherpr es ent sora ny t hi ng …” CJ & Tribulus: HB: “ Note v e nl i ng e r i e ? ” CJ : “ I ha v ea nent i r ec l os etofl i ng er i ef org i r l s …I j us tt el l t hemt og oi n a ndpi c kt hei rs i z e . ”Her eyes got wider. Idi dsomemor est uf ft hatI ’ vef or got t ennow, but she was definitely interested in hanging out with us. Too bad she was at work otherwise we coul d’ vepul l edhert oX-Bar with us. Most of the time Tribulus and I just chatted and had lots of fun. So much f unt hatal adycameoverandsai dsomet hi ngl i ke,“ Youguysar ej usthavi nga GREATt i me! ”t owhi chweagr eed. I ’ venot i cedt hati fyougooutandhavef unwi t hyourbr ost hatof t engi r l s wi l lopenyou…and…att hever yl eastt hey’ r emor el i kel yt ogi veAI ’ soropen up immediately when you open (for more see:“ Subj ect :Hi tDem Swi t chesApproach Anxiety Killing”f r om myar chi vef oranot herexampl et hatl edt oa lay). So we rolled over to X-Bar and grabbed a table. I was just leaning back taking the sights in and watching Tribulus open a few sets. Then Aladdin came with one of his friends so I started chatting with them. Finally! I spied an HB9 Latina across the bar. I went over and she was with a guy, but she smiled real big at me. I spied a two set of Blondes at a table directly in eyesight of my Target and her man.
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I decided to open the blondes and get them super into me, then merge forward, giving the dude the two blondes in exchange for the Latina Merging is a simply introducing people to people. You open one set say somet hi ngl i ke“ Let ’ sgomakesomef r i ends. ”Putt hegi r l sonyourar msi fyou can and then open another set with the girls in tow. This accomplishes a lot. It builds social proof, pre-selection, and disqualifies you as a potential suitor since you have girls with you already. It ALMOSTwor kedl i keachar m. Her e’ swhathappened: I rolled over to the table and opened. Much to my surprise they opened amazingly well and asked me to sit down immediately. We started vibing immediately. They were with the band. The obstacle, HBTitties used to go out with the drummer, but she swear she’ sgay... but j usthasn’ tcomeoutoft hecl oset . HBTeacher, the Target, immediately started giving me compliments and I OI ’ s.I amped up the Kino through the roof and had her sitting on my lamp within about 2 minutes. HBTitties asked me to guessHBTeacher ’ sage.I guessed 28 and she was 30or32( can’ tr emember ) .Shel ookedabout26-28. HBTitties guessed my age as 22. Ha Ha. Is she trying to neg?
CJ : “ OMG…hi g he r ! ” HBT i t t i es : “ 25? ” CJ : “ Wha tador k …hi g her ! ” HBTi t t i es:“ Youar eNOTol dert han25” Thewhol et i mewe’ r edoi ngt hi sHBTeacheri ssi t t i ngonmyl apandI ’ m r ubbi nghert ant hi ghs( she’ si nami ni -skirt).
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HBTitties: “ Ok ! ” HBTeacher gets off of me, while I grab my wallet. Show HBTitties my DL while shaking my head. HBTitties gives me a semi-good hickey. HBTeacher looks like she’ st hi nki ng WTF? I pull her back into my lap. If i gur eatt hi spoi ntI ’ vebui l tasol i damountofsoci alpr oofandpr eselection to go game my Latina HB9 –I look over –andt hey’ r eGONE! DAMNIT! Somewher eaboutt hi st i meHBTi t t i esnumbercl osesme.We’ vebeen t ext i ngbackandf or t h…maybeI ’ l lbanghert oo. CJ actually did end up getting this girl too in a lay report called the 100% per f ectt woset .Youcanf i ndt hatandCJ ’ sf r eear chi vesat www.betheseducer.com Aw wel l ,guessI ’ l lj usthavet ogamet heset wohor nybl ondechi cks.Si gh. HBTeacher tells me that the drummer was fucking HBTitties in the ass and he shot a super-mega load. (Another piece of evidence to support her idea that he is gay. Cool.) I vibe with them for awhile longer and the announcer makes the last call speech.
HBT i t t i ess a y s , “ I ha v et opee …l et ’ sg ot ot heba t hr oom. ” CJ :“ Met oo! ” I go to the bathroom with them and pull HBTeacher into the first stall. It was too funny... there were little feet in the stall next to us. HBTitties tried to come in with us,butt hewomen’ sstalls are like HALF the si zeofwhatyou’ df i ndi namen’ sr oom ( andt her ewer el i ke8oft hem compared to our 3).
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Another missed threesome? I think so. Fuck! If I got both of them in there I woul d’ vemadeoutwi t hbot handt r i edt opul lt hem bot h. I immediately start making out with her and she went crazy. I pulled down her shirt and started sucking on her boobies. I reached under her skirt and felt her J. Lo booty. Very nice! I reached around and started playing with her clit and then fingered her. She shoved her hand down my pants to find major wood. I ’ mt hi nki ng,“ Fuckyeah!Fi r stbat hr oom f uck! ”SoI pull her hand out of my pants and turn her around and push her forward to get her to lean over. I ’ m goi ngt opul lupherski r tandt akeherf r om behi nd.
Nog o. S hes t opsmea nds a y s , “ Weha v et og o! ” We head out and I t el l her …” Awma n, y ouha v et ot a k emehome. ” We chat a bit on the way there. I mainly just make sure there is no quiet t i mesoshecan’ tf eeluncomf or t abl e.Att hi spoi nti nt hesar geI start making commands. Ineversay,“ Heywannacomei nsi de?”Ij ustassumeit and point to an empty spot, only “ Par kt her e. ”
HBTEacher: “ I ’ mnotc omi ngi n. I just met you. If you want to see me a g a i ny ouc a nc a l l mel i k eanor ma l per s on. ” Ok. Let ’ sgobackt oX-BarandI ’ l lt el lyouhow t ogethomef r om t her e. ” (She was stressing in the car about getting lost as she originally followed her friend oversot hat ’ swhyI said that.)
HBTeacher: “ Howa r ey oug oi ngt og ethome? ” HBTeacher: “ I ha v eami l l i onf r i e nds , I ’ l l j us tc a l l onef orar i de. ” CJ: When we got to X-Bar I s a i d, “ T her e’ smyc a r . ” HBT ea c he r : “ OMG, y ouba s t a r d…y ous a i dy ounee dedar i dehome” CJ : “ I wa sj us tt r y i ngto get you home to fuck you. Ha Ha …”
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So she parks next to my car and I say, “ Ni cemeet i ngyou”... then open t hedoorandactl i keI ’ ml eavi ng.Then,I t ur nbackandshe’ sl ooki ngatme wi t ht hi sOMG he’ sl eavi ngmef ace.SoI start making out with her again. This is a great sequence of what CJ calls babystepping. The idea is you never want to suggest or tell a girl to do anything that is too big of a request. Instead you want to ask for smaller things like a ride to your car, or telling her t opar kt her ei nst eadofexpl ai ni ngwhyshe’ spar ki ngt her e. It ’ sal sovi t al l yi mpor t antt hatyouavoi dawkwar dsi l enceswhi l et r yi ngt o pul l .I tdoesn’ thavet obeanything particularly interesting, but make sure that you keep talking while in the car, cab, subway, etc. It ur nbackar oundandactl i keI ’ ml eavi ngagain. Stop. Turn back and make out with her again. Start fingering her, etc, etc. She puts her hands down my pants and I ( becauseI ’ m suchagent l eman) unbutton them and push her head down. A mediocre blowjob ensues. Then, I say“ Backseat ! ” I jump back there and I can hardly get situated bef or eshe’ s straddling me. This was cool, butwasn’ twor ki ng.I twasasmal l SUV andt oocr ammed…Il ai dherdownandf i ni shed. It was a bit of a thrill, fucking a chick in a parking lot at 3 am. The fear of getting caught did add a bit of tension, but not as much as I thought it would. Funnyt hi ngwasi twasn’ therSUV…i twasherf r i endsSUV(not HBTitties, a di f f er entf r i end) …ha…ha…gi r l sar esuchsl ut s.
This report is a great example of finding a way to make the lay happen. Most PUA’ swoul dhavebeendi scour agedwhenshewoul dn’ tcomei nt ot hehouse with them and possibly just called it a night. Captain Jack persevered and was rewarded with a lay.
LR: I HAVE TO PEE! CAPTAIN JACK Ok, it's taken me awhi l et ogett hi sLR wr i t t enupbecauseI ’ vebeen wor ki ngmybut tof f …cl osedamaj orbusi ness deal (but no celebration till the
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checki si nhandandcl ear edt hebank) …andpr i mi ngt hepumpf ormor e business. I ’ vet ol dt hi sstory to 3 or 4 PAU’ sso most of the details are still clear. Last Wednesday night it was SecondChance's B-day. We meet at Humperdink's and had dinner and BS for a bit before heading to Carsons. At Carsons, I had one weird set with a 30-year old hot blond and got a make out. I could've pulled her, but she was weirding out on me, because she tried to answer my NORMAL comfort-type questions like she was in some kind of B Spy Movie: suggestive, sexual, mysterious and weird! At one point she said she really needed a drink. I was still deciding what to do (I do buy girls drinks on occasion - example "LR: Apple or Donut" bought her three beers, no problem) and the waitress came over. The HB yelled her drink order to the waitress who didn't hear it. "She said, "Shirley Temple." Ha ha. So the waitress brought her a Shirley Temple. I showed Fidelio and we had a good laugh. After awhile I finally ditched her. I noticed her clinging on two separate guys at other times through the night, they were feeding her drinks. Weird lady! At the end of the night the PUA’ s gather in the parking lot. We say our goodbye's and SecondChance says, "I want to see FR's on the board tomorrow." CJ: "No way man. I've got a reputation to protect." We all laugh and go our separate ways. About 3/4ths of the way to my car I remember that I left my debit card at the bar. Shit ... I ALWAYS do that. So I go back to the front and the 7 foot bouncer blocks the doorway. Finally, he allows me to get in after a new bit of drama eats up his attention. There are two girls freaking out saying their purses were jacked. I get in, get my card and go pee. On the way out I seeSecondChance’ s salsa friend. He tells me the girls he was with got their purses jacked. I tell him I heard two other girls talking to the bouncer and one of them had a flight t ocat chorsomet hi ngt henextday.WeshakehandsandI ’ m of f . PAGE:
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In the parking lot, I spy a 2-set of brunettes chatting. As I pass by I look and see two Asian girls. One is an UG2 and the other HB9. CJ :“ Youguysknow anygoodpl acest oeatar oundher e. ” The Target makes this face: Oh, gawd another guy hitting on my perfect self -- butt heUG saysshedoesn’ tknow t hear ea.She’ sf r om Ft .Wor t h. I mention the only places I know are on Beltline. At this t i mea6’3”suave guy saunters into the set. He has a kick-ass shirt on. I wanted to ask him where he got it, but before I knew it he whisked the HB9 away, leaving me with the UG. He totally ignored me and the UG (this factoid becomes important later). Sowhi l eI ’ mt al ki ngI start walking back to my car. The UG keeps chatting to me, I notice the HB9 and the SuaveGuy next to his sweet polished chrome and black Lincoln Navigator. I gi veasi del onggl ancet omyf or estgr een’ 94 Saturn and secretly wonder if it will start up on the first try. This report should forever answer the questions about whether or not you need money or a cool car to pull girls. The answer: No. SuaveGuy and HB9 are on the passenger side of his Navigator and I can’ t see them. I continue talking to the UG and get deep rapport. HB9 comes back over and when she does the UG mentions eating. SuaveGuy is in tow. CJ :“ Wow!Youcandr essherupbutyoucan’ tt akeheranywher e! ” UG laughs. HB9’ sj aw dr opsandSuaveGuy continues ignoring everyone but HB9. He drags her back over. Then I endure another 3-5 minutes of BS chatting with UG and she loves me to death. She goes to work for me and tries to grab HB9away.But ,HB9won’ tl eaveandshesayst ot heUG,“ Comeon,he’ sgoing t odr i veust oourcar . ” UG waves at me and they drive off. Oh well. I decide to go to the Race Track across the street for a refreshing fountain soda and a snack to prepare for the 40 minute drive home. PAGE:
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AsI ’ m wal ki ngbackacr osst hest r eett owar dsCar son’ spar ki ngl otI hear two females yelling. I look and see UG and my Target riding in their car. They make a u-turn and pull into the parking lot. The UG is driving and she reopens me. The Target sees the drink in my hand and says, “ Oh,I ’ mt hi r st y,t oo.Whydi dn’ tyougetmeadr i nk?” CJ :“ Whywoul dI get you a drink? I don’ tknow youf r om ahol ei nt he wal l . ”UG gi ggl esandTar gethasher second jaw-dr oppi ngmoment . ” CJ :“ Hey, drive me to my car. ” ** This was funny because my car was about 10 feet away. So I hop in and they drive me. ** Another appearance of babystepping! We talked in the car for a good 15 minutes. It ol dTar geti twoul dn’ twor koutbet weenus.I told her she reminded me of an ex who was an exotic dancer. UG it turns out is a cocktail waitress at BabyDol l ’ si nFort Worth and is supposed to get Target a job. I tell her “ Yeah,good idea, just become a cocktail waitress - because dancing is VERY competitive.” ** another subtle negative** CJ: “ Myexpai df oral mostever yt hi ng. ” Tar get :“ You’ r esupposedt ot akecar eofyourwoman. ” CJ :“ Iknow.But, she just kept pampering me. Food, gifts, sex ... It was awesome! ” UG:“ Thatguywant edTar gett ohangoutandeatwi t hhim, butnotme. ” CJ :“ Someguysar eaf r ai dt hei rf r i endswon’ tl i ket hem.Youknow,ki nda l acki ngconf i denceorsomet hi ng. ” Tar get :“ Youhavepr et t ybl ueeyes. ” CJ :“ Thanks” When you are in comfort stage the only answer to a compliment is “ Thanks” . I t ’ st heonl y thing a truly confident person would say. PAGE:
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So, about15mi nut e’ si nsi det hecar ,Target says: “ Let ’ sgohangoutwi t h CJ …”
UG: “ Ok ! ” CJ : “ I ha v et obeupe a r l y . ” UG: “ Wha tt i me? ” CJ : “ 7a m. But , y oug uy sc a nc omeha ngouti fy ouwa nt . But , I ’ l l ha ve to k i c ky ououta bout7” We roll to my place. By the time we get here it is about 3:15. Target opens my car door and says, “ Car r yme. ”I carry her. Wegeti nsi de,mypl acei saMESS.I t ’ sembar r assi ng.Tot opi tal lof fI don’ thaveanyt oi l etpaper .I ’ vebeenusi ngpapert owel sf ort hel ast2days, because I keep forgetting to get TP. I sit on my loveseat. When they come out of the bathroom Target sits in the OTHER chair and UG sits next to me. We get on the subject of hot tubs and where mine is at. On the way out there Target tries to get me to carry her towel, her purse and other miscellaneous shit. I laugh and hand her my shit to carry.
T a r g et : Y ou’ r es uc hame a nma n! A minute later…T a r g e t : “ Ca r r yme . ” CJ : “ Wha t ?Y ouha v et o pee again? Ha Ha ” T ar ge t : “ J aaaaas on”in a spoiled brat kinda voice. CJ : “ Wow, y ou’ r eex -bf ’ smus t ’ v es poi l edy ou. L i t t l ebr a t . ” I picked her up, but instead of carrying her with her legs wrapped around I throw her over my shoulder and carry her like a sack of potatoes. She struggles to get upright but she is no match ... Ha! This is cool. We get to the hot tub and they BOTH strip down to panties. The UG had nice fake tits, but that face just gave me shivers. The Target had nice little perky tits with erect nipples. PAGE:
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So, there I am with four tits in the hot tub. A boner ensues. Tar geti ssl y.Shewant sacompl i mentsoher e’ show shet r i est o accomplish it. Tar get :“ Whatdoyout hi nkofUG’ st i t s?” CJ :“ Theyl ookni ce. ” She was hopi ngwe’ dgetont hesubj ectofHER t i t saswel l .But ,I started a new thread. Sly girl. UG goes to lay down in sun tanning chair. I pull Target and make out. I finally full monty her in my bed at about 5:30am. At 6:15 my dad calls to make sure I am awake for my meeting. At 6:45 he tells me he is on his way. I am cursing myself for agreeing to a 9am Thursday meeting, when I KNEW t hatI ’ dbegoi ngoutWednesdayni ght . At 7 am I screw hottie again and at 7:30 I kick hottie and UG out of apartment. Hottie is mad at me. She wants to sleep there until I get back. I closed the biz deal and got to bed about 1:30 Thursday afternoon. Paid for my lifestyle choices Thursday night and Friday morning, totally worn out.
LR: CAPTAIN JACK AND SINN DO DALLAS (aka CJ Battles Satan and Lives) November 18th, 2006 In Austin, Texas I looked upon the face of Satan and lived. Deep, deep in the bowels of hell, Satan decided he wanted a night out on the town. For this excursion to the physical plane, he clothed himself in the female form with long, hot legs, a pert ass, near perfect tits and a face full of acne cleverly concealed with several bottles of foundation.
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Right about 3:00 am, I was waiting for Sinn in the hotel room because I had a hot Lebanese and hot Latina lined up ready to come and have wild ethnic sex with us. I opened the set earlier in front of two students so they could see lock-in and what attraction looks like from the outside. Sinn came in and winged with me for awhile and they wanted us to Bounce with them to eat and then come to our hotel. But, he showed up with Satan and her friend who had eye-catching extra l ar geboobi es( Si nn’ sAchi l l esHeel ) .Bei ngt hegoodWi ngI am I began befriending Satan. Let the battle begin. I tried befriending. I switched to dismissiveness ... and went to all out negative warfare. Back and forth we tugged ever so subtly with our language. I tried to make i tl ookt oSi nn’ sTar getl i keI was ok with her friend spewing venom so Sinn could continue. Sinn and his Target left for a while. After a machine gun barrage of negatives, disqualifiers and DHVs, I got Satan out of her chair and did the Trust Test - plus a few spins. Then, I set her next to the bed, on me, with my arm around her. The air around us began to buzz with the sexual tension, which usually precedes a serious bout of tongue-down. Satan was about to crack. No sooner had the air electrified than there was a knock on the door. She got up to answer the knock and then went back to her chair. State broken. Si nn’ sTar gethadbookedSat anar oom i nourhot el . Being the gentleman PUA I am (to give Sinn a chance to escalate and close) I offered to escort Satan to her room. As soon as we were outside the room she said, “ J ustt ol etyouknow my daddy was fraternity brothers with the District Attorney of Austin so if you try anyt hi ng…” CJ :“ Whatt hehel lar eyout al ki ngabout ?That ’ swei r d. ”
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Here CJ handles a typical test while pulling: The safety issue. Whenever girls ( t ar get sorobst acl es)sayanyt hi ngaboutsaf et yj usti gnor ei tandactl i kei t ’ s ridiculous. Under no circumstances should you have a logical discussion or t r yi ngt oconvi ncet hegi r l st hatyouar esaf e.That ’ st heki ssofdeat h.I nst ead dismiss it just like CJ does above.
In her hotel room I continued working on her. I wanted to close just so I could say I nailed Satan in human form. Again, I had worked my way into her bed. I opened each new thread with a negative or disqualifier. She took her bra off and threw it on the floor. I grabbed her ponytail and said,“ I st hatanew f r agr ancecal l ed“ BarSmoke?” She said, “ Oh!Myhai rnor mal l ysmel l spr et t y…t hi ssucks! ”I started smelling up her neck and pulled her ponytail. She arched her back and shoved her ass into my crotch. Then, again with superb timing, Sinn and BoobieGirl show up. Satan goes through the roof and her bitch shield goes back up. Another battle ensues. While I was locked in a supernatural battle with Satan, Sinn sucked on some way-above-average titties in the other bed. I began each new conversational thread with a sniper negative aimed right atSat an’ sego.This bought me the next few sentences. Back and forth we battled and I knew at that point just how Charlie Daniels felt while he battled for the fiddle made of gold. Char l i edi dn’ twantt hegol df i ddl e.I twasn’ taboutt hegol df i ddl eatal l .I t was about beating Satan. Now,I ’ m gonnagooutonal i mbher eandt el lyoui ft hati fyourWi ngi s NOT down with battling Satan, so you can suck on some huge titties, you might wanna find a new Wing. In short, I di dn’ tcl ose.I fell asleep, but not before making the sign of the cross, chanting Buddha five times and praying to Krishna for protection. But, it was fun in a demented sort of way. Now, fast forward to Monday, November 20th, 2006 when Sinn and I roll up to Big D with a combination of Eminem and Jerry Jeff Walker blaring. PAGE:
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Wehi tanew Mondayni ghtvenuet hatI ’ vehadapr et t ygoodamountof success at and Sinn opens a cute 2 set to start a Jealousy Thread with one of his earlier Targets. At this point it was clear to see why Sinn is considered one of the best ever. He had no less than 4 girls in this somewhat tiny venue attracted to him. Ourwai t r esspr obabl ywoul d’ vequi tont hespotf orachancet ohavesex with him. I began working the obstacle, which was easy because she knew her friend was already attracted. I merely tried to stay one step behind in the process so we could keep a nice pace. This is important when you are winging. You want to be in roughly the same spot give or take a step. This is a keypoi ntwi t hwi ngi ng.Whoever ’ s set it is, leads the interaction. Here I was leading the moves in the venue, but CJ was leading the pull because I was crashing at his place. I ran all the normal stuff. Trust Test; Dye my soul patch blonde; Strawberry fields: Her e’ sCJ ’ sver si onofSt r awber r yFi el dsf r om anot herLayRepor t .
CJ: You're walking along and you come across a strawberry field. How high is the fence? HB: 5 feet CJ: "Hmm...."looking quizzical at her” HB: What? What? CJ: "Ok, you get inside. How many strawberries do you eat?" HB: ( S hel ook sl i k es hei st hi nk i ng ). . . ” F i v e” CJ: "Five, wow! Oh my god! I could never take you home to mommy!" HB: "What! WHAT?" -- Touching my arm and pulling on me. CJ: "Ok, last question. What about the farmer?" HB: "Did he see me?"
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CJ: (Shakes head with astonished look). . . “ Wow!" CJ: "Ok, here's what it means. The fence means you have high goals and high aspirations. The strawberries stand for your sexual appetite" CJ: (I shake my head again) "You're sooooo baaaaad! Most people say one or two! You want 5 ... Wow!" She flips out and starts giggling and squealing. She bends over and tells her friend what I said and they look at me and smile and giggle. CJ: "The farmer means you don't care about the sexual situation, as long as no one finds out." She squeals again and tells her friends who look over at me smiling again. She puts her hand on my chest and says, "No, I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings..."
LR - “LOOKS ARE NOT ENOUGH”:A3 ROUTINE You are a very pretty girl, but beauty is very common. What really matters is a great energy, outlook and personality. You seem like you’ vegott wooutof t het hr ee,t hat ’ sagoodst ar t .Whatwoul dmakemewantt ogett oknow you better? Light Bill Story: When I was a kid, after my parents were divorced, I overheard my mom talking on the phone to one of her friends. She was worried about how she was going to pay the light bill. So the next day after school I got my red wagon from the backyard and dumped a bunch of toys in it. I started at one end of the street and sold the toys to the neighborhood kids. I gave my mom $18 and told her it was for the light bill. She started crying. General get to know you comfort stuff.
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We pulled backt ot hei nf amousPi r at ePad™.I put on a DVD. I was on the couch with my girl. Sinn and his Target laid on the floor snuggling. Ibeganescal at i ngont hecouch.Shekeptsayi ng,“ Idon’ twantt ot ease you. ”SoI ’ df r eezeout ,wai tami nut eort woand start making out again. We did this about three times and then I pulled her into the bathroom and started administering my new anti-LMR tactic: Hardcore ass spanking. I closed the deal on my bathroom floor and then in my bedroom. That was numero four for Nov. By Tuesday we were so worn out that we just hit a few Big D venues and ran some sets. Wednesday morning I took him to the airport so he could jet on up to Toronto. ~ Captain Jack ~
LR-SUNBURST 2007-JAN-7: CAPTAIN JACK This will be a rathershor tr epor tbecausesi nceI ’ vebeenusi ngMi cr oCalibration my sarges are getting really smooth. I do the minimum attraction to get to Qualification and then go into deep, emotional comfort asap.
MY ORIGINAL POST ON MICROCALIBRATION: Micro calibration First I want to start by explaining that this is an advanced technique. This is not something that a beginner should be using. I don't generally even teach this on Boot camps unless it's something that I think they will benefit from. It generally requires a good deal of social savvy to get it right. This article will assume basic knowledge of the following: In any human interaction, there are only four means of communication that take place. IOIs -- Indicators of interest IODs -- Indicators of disinterest DHVs -- Demos of high value DLVs -- Demos of low value
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Add in Compliance Tests (CTs) and a base line of punishment reward and you have social interaction in a formula. This came about because last year I was finding that with some girls I had to negative a million times to get any IOIs while with others they would ask me for my name Right after I opened, or after they tell me I ’ m hot. If I continued DHVing they would get all weirded out. However, if I started qualifying them, it often didn't take. So I started putting an IOI in before my qualification and my attempt got better. For example: The Wrong Way!
Girl: You're cute! Where are you from? Sinn: Buy me a drink before you hit on me! IOD: What do you have going for you besides your looks? Now ... The Right Way! Girl: You're cute! Where are you from? Sinn: Buy me a drink before you hit on me! IOD: You are very pretty IOI, but beauty is common what do you have going for you besides your looks? The balancing of IOIs and IOD is a key element missing from the overall explanation of MM. I think of it as a seesaw: If I throw too may IODs that weighs down one side of the seesaw, and I'm an asshole. If I throw too many IOIs then I weigh down the other side it makes me an AFC ... But, if I adjust every IOD with a potential IOI and every IOI with a potential IOD I attain balance and my sets work like magic. Micro calibrating is simply throwing the balancing part of the equation (IOI or IOD) when needed
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Now at boot camps we teach you how to open (which is a very small compliance test), FTC (a DHV), and Negative in every set. We also teach you how to stack forward And start DHVing and negging in A2, then we start A3 where we use compliance tests to make her DHV so that we can give her deserved IOIs. The reason we teach this is that it is the way that most sets go. And the MAJORITY of sets will not be attracted right away. However sometimes you will get sets that will be attracted to you as soon as you open your mouth ... or before. If a girl approaches you and says she likes your cowboy hat, and you respond with Jealous Girlfriend, you are going backwards in the interaction. She is telling you she is already attracted to you. Therefore, you can respond by saying, "Thanks, what's your name?" That would be an IOI in return for hers. We can say then based on how r eadi l ysheanswer s.I fshe’ shesitant or doesn't immediately ask for my name, ori fshedoesn’ tt r yt okeep the conversation going (IODS). I will then respond with my own IOD. Say:“ Buy me a drink before you hit on me". Then immediately follow up with a compliance test " and your special because?" When she answers this, I am now in A3 and can start giving her IOIs. In this way I have now gotten through attraction in 30-seconds. However if she refuses to answer or she IODs me when I ask her why she's special, I still have an out. When she says, " I'm not special" or " Why are you special?" Isay,“ Never mind I was just being polite (IOD) ... Oh you have a u shapedsmi l e. . .( DHV) ” See how there are contingencies of what to say based on what her reactions are? Well when you are routine stacking it would look something like this: PAGE:
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Her: "I like your cowboy hat" You: "Thanks. I actually need an opinion from a female who lies more" Her: "Opinion?" You FTC finish opener, stock negative, First routine, next routine, until you get enough IOIs that you start qualifying and it takes. By not pausing and looking at reactions, you are assuming that what you are doing is working - which it may not be. By being able to read IOIs we can move into A3 faster and ultimately into comfort faster and beyond. Also, by knowing that we are getting an IOD or an IOI we can calibrate any routine mid stream to either IOI or IOD. Take for example the "May I touch your eyes" line. Sinn: "You have beautiful eyes" IOI Girl: while rolling her eyes and thinking another loser "Thanks" IOD Sinn: May I touch them? IOD I change the routine based on the reaction she gives me. However if the same interaction takes place but goes like this: Sinn: You have beautiful eyes. IOI Girl: "Thank you so much no one ever says that to me." IOI Now I have a sincere response so there is no need for me to throw the second part of the routine. We want to be able to compliment girls and give them IOIs, however most girls will not yet be comfortable with that until later. Micro calibrating is simply the act of watching responses and then tailoring the next action toward the response we just got PAGE:
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A simplified version would state that we respond to IOIs with IOIs, IODs with IODs and we constantly test for compliance. Through micro calibrating based on reactions while following the M3 model we can greatly increase our ability to get results. Micro calibrating also has a place in Kino escalation. If I make out with a girl on day 1 and then see her again the next day I will want to test to see where her willingness to kiss me again is, so I micro calibrate. I move in as I hug her and I pause. I now watch to see if she looks nervous or uncomfortable. If she doesn't I go for it. If she looks uncomfortable then I push her off And increase personal space so that the next time I get close she's more comfortable and I can go for it. Same thing once we are holding hands I will slide my finger tips away from hers to see if she follows them. Is she does I will pull her closer to me, if she doesn't, I throw her hand off. A key to micro calibrating is remembering that IODs are not always negatives. It would be weird if when a girl refused to qualify herself I told her she was a little shit. Instead they are simply ways of showing that we are not interested. There can be removal of Kino, backs turns, pauses in the conversation, eye rolls, as well as negatives and disqualifiers. A few other keys to micro calibrating by watching the reactions you're causing you can either soften or harden a routine EX: Sinn: “ You and I are never going to get along"(IOD) Gi r l :“ Why not I think we'd get along fine (IOI) Sinn: We're too similar (IOI) ... But I think our differences will be complimentary IOI.
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Sinn: “ You and I are never going to get along"(IOD) Girl: “ You're right we wouldn't” Sinn: “ Yeah we would fight all the time, and I'd always win”(IOD) If a target at any time gives me an IOD I will respond in kind. This is the punishment part of our punishment reward sub routine However if we are already in comfort the punishment will no longer be negatives, instead it will be take away’ sand freeze outs. If at any time she gives me an IOI even if it's as passive as holding my drink, I will reward her until she becomes uncomfortable and gives an IOD then we respond With another IOD, wait for an IOI and if it doesn't come we compliance test to actively look for IOIs. We can also do this by balancing the amount of value we demonstrate onto a set. Not every set needs to hear a million routines before they will be willing to talk to you. If have run more than 2 routines in a set and you are not attempting to move on to qualification (A3) you are hurting your game. You want to make sure that you are constantly testing to see where you are... and then try to advance at the same time. Micro calibrating makes it easy by throwing little adjusters depending on the responses you are getting. It's not at all reactive to apologize when you over-neg. You will lose a lot more sets by continuing to negative once you've offended then by apologizing and qualifying her for standing up for herself. Micro calibration is the art of adjusting what you're saying in real time to the reactions you are getting. Sinn, Future and I were out having a blast after a bootcamp in Scottsdale. Sinn and Future had already run a few good sets. PAGE:
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My first set, three guys and one girl, kind of floundered, because my brain j ustwoul dn’ tst ackf or war d.Shewasi nt er est edwhenI spoke, but standing there saying nothing is a DLV and they all quickly lost interest. Next set was the same story. I opened a 40+ year old hoping that if I could get my mouth moving I could carry it into the future sets. It worked and she became intensely attracted to me. The next set I can’ tr ememberi fI opened or Sinn did, I think Sinn did. It was a group of three Latinas. Sinn went for the biggest boobed one (surprise). I took an obstacle. She had a goofy hat on which I made fun of constantly. She gave me some weak attempt at a shit test but I can’ tr ememberi t because before I got a chance to knock that ball out of the park the 40+ year old came and grabbed my arm and tried to pull me away. (The gods smiling on me, perhaps?) MyTar get ,HBSunbur st ,sai d,“ Wow!Doyouknow her ?” CJ :“ No.Thi shappensal lt hetime. Girls just treating me like a piece of meat . ” HBSunbur st :“ Icanseewhy,butI woul dn’ tt r eatyouONLYl i keapi eceof meat . ” I take that as a cue to go into qualification. One of her friends pulls her away for a minute. She finds me again later and we go into comfort. Whenshet el l smeshe’ sawr i t erI ask her who her favorite authors ar e…Then,I t el lheri t ’ sunusualt omeetagi r lwhocanr eadi napl acel i ke this...and she should get away from me now. The fact that she was a writer and they had similar favorite authors was a bi gpar toft hi sset .Don’ tunder est i mat et hei mpor t anceofcommonal i t i es. We sink deeper into comfort and I give her the light bill story.
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I t ’ st i met ol eaveandshesaysshehast ogot ot hebat hr oom and to wait for her. Is that a shit test? No! We were in the middle of a great conversation. She has to pee. She wants to keep talking. When she comes out, we talk a bit more until closing time. I start demonstrating ambition by telling her my future plans; the condo overlooking the ocean, the big boat, the lifestyle, the accomplishments. Thi si sn’ tbr aggi ng,sher eal i zesf r om t heLi ghtBi l lst or yt hatI ’ m adr i ven per son.Seei ngmymot her ’ sf i nanci alpai nasayoungboydr i vesmef or war d as a man. My desire to create a supreme life for my daughters drives me when mostmenwoul d’ vet hr owni nt het owelandsunki nt omedi ocr i t y. Ambition and accomplishment are identical in terms of attraction. If you have a condo overlooking the ocean, a big boat etc. Or you can demonstrate the ambition and drive to get them. You will get the same amount of attraction. Women are attracted to material objects because of what they say about the person who has them. She’ si mmensel yat t r act edt omebecauseI ’ m at t r act edt omygoal sand plans. We all pil ei nt ohercousi n’ sMer cedes( a tight fit ). I start playing with her t el l i nghershesmel l sl i keVani l l awhi l eshe’ ssi t t i ngonmyl ap. Sinn is giving the driver a massage. Future is holding hands with the Hottie i nt hepassenger ’ sseat . They drop us at the hotel and a few minutes later HBSunburst comes back up, knocks on the door and gets my number. I am leaving a message for a girl one # closed on Friday night at this point. We get into the hal l wayandshesays,“ Whowast hat ?” CJ :“ A gi r lI metFr i day. ” HBSunbur st :“ Oh…Icamebackt ogetyournumber ,shoul dI evenbot her ?”
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CJ :“ yes,def i ni t el y. ” Igi vehermynumberandt hensay,“ I ’ l lwal kyoudown”andhi tt he elevator button. As soon as we get in I shove her against the wall and make out with her. I unsnap her bra in about 1.5 seconds flat. Shesays,“ OMG!St op!We’ r ei nanel evat or ! ” I laugh and give her a long sensuous kiss. Open the elevator door and say, “ Cal lme. ” About an hour later she calls and asks me to come over. I worked through about an hour of LMR, but I could tell it was going to happen because there was a legitimate time constraint. I would be leaving at four the next day. Much to my delight she had a tattoo of a sunburst on her right ass cheek. To learn more about Captain Jack and read more of his LRs check out www.captainjack.blogspot.com
LR -PROMOTOR GIRL- DIFFICULT PULL: BRAD P This was a really tough pull. I thought I was going to lose her a few times. This girl is a club promoter and total party girl here in NYC. She promotes for a very trendy club. Let me start with a little background on this girl. I have met her one time before, and she is tough as nails, one of the hardest testers I've ever come across. For anyone who has my book, "Instant Attraction" I describe a scenario in there where I used the horse girl opener, and the girl threatened to knock my teeth out immediately. This is that SAME GIRL! I haven't seen her in 6 months. The approach from 6 months ago: BRAD P.: (horse girl line) GIRL: "What the hell do you mean about me liking horses?? Do you like your teeth where they are? Cause if you don't get the hell away from me right now I'm going to knock your teeth right out of your head!"
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BRAD P.: "Listen, I'm just being social and having fun. You DO look like someone I used to know. Anyway, I can tell a lot about you from the way your conducting yourself right now. I bet you act like this all the time, and when you do, a lot of people think you're a real bitch. But I can tell that you're not. I think that deep down. You're as sensitive as a little girl. Sure, a lot of people may think you're stuck up, but you don't have to act like that towards me. You probably just act like that because you get dorks hitting on you all day." The girl was 100% attracted to me after I showed her I had enough balls to stand up to her. 20 minutes later I was making out with her and her friend. Her friend was hot too. It was basically just a matter of getting past the roaring tests. OK fast forward 6 months to yesterday. Here's where my head is at. I came back from Cliff's List in Montreal and a few days in Seattle with one of my girls, I was pretty burnt out from being on no sleep that whole weekend. I didn't even get to game in Montreal; it was all just talking to students, meeting the other teachers and being totally desperate for sleep. Then 10 hours on a greyhound bus home. I've lost a few of my best fuck buddies recently due to various factors. Mostly me just not being willing to deal with their BS. So the rotation is down to three in NY, which is very light for me. Usually I'm between five and ten. The three that are left are beautiful girls, but one is a virgin and the other two are the types you have to go easy on in the sack. So I was basically looking for a girl so I could just pound the shit out of her pussy, throw her around, pull her hair, spank her, etc. Wednesday night I ended up going and staying with the virgin chick, getting a great blow job and some great titty fucking. But I still needed to just dick-slam some chick. You know that feeling? So I'm skateboarding back from the subway on my way back from the virgin girl's place and I notice a lot of girls are giving me the eye. The first one was pushing a stroller, but she was hot. I skated past. Next one was walking and staring at me ... another Hottie! I wasn't really in that gaming mood, so I skated by. Next one was on a bike and she waved. Ok that does it! I'm going after her. PAGE:
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She was like a 7... a light skinned Indian girl. I wasn't that into her, but figured maybe I'd give her a chance. I turned around and skated back the way she was going. She had stopped and was going into her apartment. I figured I'd go talk to her and try to get into her place, and then take it from there. So I said "hi." She said "hi." There were some old people there so I said "Are you the super?" The guy said "Sometimes." I said "Are you the super duper?" they all laughed. I vibed with the group a bit. The girl said "You stay on that side of the fence." I said "Sure, you're afraid of what might happen, aren't you." She said yeah. Now we have sexual tension. I asked if she had something to drink upstairs. She said yes and invited me up. We did some simple rapport stuff. I did a palm reading in her bed, then I upped the physical escalation a bit more and she got creeped out. So I left. As far as I'm concerned, that girl had 20 minutes to fuck me or impress me in some other way. As soon as she got creeped out by the physical stuff I left ASAP. Once a girl is creeped out there's no turning back. I was creeped out too, by her lack of sexual rapport. I didn't take her number. I just said "Hey I gotta go, see ya around." Not impressed. I'm certainly not wasting a whole night taking this chick out and enlightening her with my special brand of magical seduction. It was fun for 20 minutes and she works for a health food company, so I got some free protein drinks out of the deal. That was around 1pm. Around midnight I headed out to a club in Manhattan. Saw a few students there. Small world. Saw my friends there. I decided to go do a few approaches. First group: 5 super hot babes from Boston. These girls were all 9s and 10s. I opened one of them. Then I spoke to a few other girls in the group. I had not decided on a definite target. I wanted to
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try all of them out. I danced with them. Some were good dancers. It was fun. In the end I left that set because I didn't like the logistics. 5 girls is a lot. They're from out of town. Not good. There's really not even a good reason to take numbers since I hate the phone and I almost never do phone game these days. This was a nice warm up set and a nice piece of social proof for upcoming approaches. Thedancef l oorcanbeagr eatwayt obui l dsoci alpr oof .Especi al l yi fi t ’ sa club that has a less defined dance floor or a dance floor that can be easily seen by the other clubbers. There's a lot of peer group hanging around. There are 2 girls I've fucked before in the club, including the fetish model chick, who I had to ditch over some stupid shit a week ago. A friend of mine says to me "Hey, come meet these girls. The red haired one is mine, but you can take the brunette, I've already fucked her." Hehe” My friends are some sick fuckers, especially this dude. He wants to just pass all the girls around. OK fine, He'll take the redhead, I'll take the other one. He introduces us. I look at the redhead and we recognize each other. I say "Did we make out?" She says YES!!!! It's that same girl who wanted to knock my teeth out! She immediately pulls me away from the group and starts touching me all over. I'm like "yeah yeah cool." But I'm trying not to steal this girl from my friend. After a few minutes I tell him, "Dude get this girl off of me, she's trying to make a move on me, and she's yours not mine." My wing says OK, but he tells me a few minutes later that if I want to take the redhead that's fine. I tell him we'll see what happens. If it goes that way we'll just both go with it. So, I'm not sure what I want to do, but the brunette is into my wing and lukewarm on me. The redhead is really into me, so I guess that's the way it's going. So I start gaming the redhead chick. Turns out she's a club promoter. She's working as I'm gaming her. It's hard to keep her focused. She's got to make sure everyone has drinks and she's got to flirt with the guys she invited. PAGE:
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My game in this case consists of hard physical escalation and some caveman stuff. No routines. No attract material. Lots of test deflection. Let me say this about NYC club game, these girls have a SUPER STRONG frame. Most NYC girls do. This particular girl is throwing tests like you wouldn't believe. Some of the tests were absolutely baffling, even to me. It's the hardest testing I've ever encountered. I decided I don't even want to get into much verbal sparring with her. She's too quick. A lot of people wonder how to game ADD club chicks. This is a good basic strategy: Hard physical escalation and prompting and passing congruence tests. I'm steering stuff more towards sexual things. That's the way I'll make her submit to me. I drag her off into the back and make out with her. I take my dick out and she's touching it a little. She's asking about my wing, I tell her he said it was OK. I spank her in the club in front of everyone. I tell her that my friend and I are going to double team her. She's pretty into that idea. This girl is kind of drunk, now I have her horny. She's wrapped up about possibly getting it on with me and my friend. Br ad’ smat er i ali sgear edt owar dsget t i ngt hegi r lat t r act ed,conf usedand horny, while escalating physically in unusual ways. She tries to hook me up with some other friend of hers to make out. The friend is hot, but totally stiff and a bit on the cock-block side. I try to form a connection with her so she doesn't cock block me later. But it's not working. These party girls just want everyone to make out with each other, if you're in their secret club that is. Now me, and my wing start talking about how we're going to try to pull both girls into a four-some. They seem like they want to fuck, but it's too early for the redhead chick to leave because she's technically still working. So we wait. I'm working my game when the two ex-fuck-buddies roll up on me. That was funny. Not a problem at all. I hugged one of them and had a nice PAGE:
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conversation. The other I avoided ‘ cause she did some fucked up shit a few weeks ago. In the end it's all social proof. During the waiting period, a bunch of girls kept rolling up on me, dancing with me, talking to me. Some I knew, some I didn't. It was great social proof and I think it saved the day, ‘ cause the redhead chick was all over the place. Me, and the redhead chick decide it's time to go, she wants to take all four of us into her car and leave. She's drunk and wants me to drive. All good! I go to my wing and the girls go to the bathroom. My wing wants to fly solo with the brunette; he's got logistical issues so the foursome is off. No problem. The girls finally get back and I know now t hat ’ swhen the REAL game will begin. I have to figure out how to get this flaky, non-stop testing promoter girl out of the club without being cock -blocked, or screwed up in some other way. She already said she's ready to go home with me, but it took about 45 minutes to get her out of there and I thought I was going to lose the lay a few times. She made another long trip to the bathroom with the brunette. She made a third long trip to the bathroom with the cock-block chick. The cock-block chick wouldn't let us leave, asked us to hang out longer. She made a trip into the back to do coke with some fat guy. I went with them. I was on the brink of looking seeming needy, the way I was hovering over her, but it was crucial in this case. Now she tells me "What if you didn't run into me tonight? What would you have done?" I said "Well you know; there's a lot of other girls here." She says "Yeah I can't deal with your fan club, I think I'm going to drive myself home," and she walks away. It sounded pretty serious and I was little thrown off, but I decided to treat it like just another test. PAGE:
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I waited a few minutes, she came back and we started walking out of the place. Now ANOTHER FRIGGIN GUY she knows stops us. He's like "Hey!" He just got in and she had invited him. This is how this club promo thing works. This chick collects orbiters, then she invites them all to the club, then the club pays her depending on how many of them show up. She is a professional flirt and orbiter collector. So she had to stop and hang with him. I jumped right in and started to dominate their interaction. The redhead chick walks off to the bathroom with the cock block again. This is so annoying to have to go through this process, but I've pulled so many same day lays, I know it is par for the course. This is, however, the worst case I've run into.... fucking horrible! I stay and talk with the guy while she's in the bathroom because I don't want to look like a loser standing there alone when she gets back. She comes back and we leave, finally. This is a great example of persistence. Persistence is one of the key differences between the guys that leave with women and the guys who go home alone. Youhavet obesur et hatyoukeepyoursoci alval uehi ghanddon’ tl ook pushy or needy, but in many SNL situations you will need to deal with all sorts of problems. Most guys would have given up and ended the night happy with a make-out. Let ’ sl ookatwhatBr ad has had to deal with. His friend who introduced them wants this girl. He has to get his friend to give him permission to game her. She’ swor ki ngasapr omot er ,soshe’ sr unni ngar oundt hecl ubashe’ s trying to game her. She’ sdoi ngnon-stop testing, takes several trips to the bathroom with various people, cock-block chicks and orbiters. So remember that the next time you think there are too many obstacles to your pull. We're driving back to my place. I'm not talking too much. She's telling a few funny stories. She tells me she's not going to sleep with me. I tell her "I was just about to tell you the same thing." She says she's not easy, blah, blah, blah. I cut off the thread, because I don't want her thinking along those lines, thinking she has to prove her value by being a cock tease. PAGE:
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We get back to my place and I can't get her into bed. She's changing clothes, she's rearranging her shit. People are calling her for after hour parties. She's texting people. What a mess. So high maintenance! Then she's talking more about how she's not going to sleep with me. Finally she settles down and I'm thinking, "Damn I hope this chick is good in the sack." Turns out she's really good. She gives me some great head. I can tell she's trying to prove herself and that's what I like to see. I finger her for a back, deep-spot orgasm. I put on a condom and she says "What, do you think I changed my mind?" I totally ignore that and put my dick against her pussy. She grabs it and slides it inside. How's that for handling last minute resistance? It was token resistance. I love token resistance. It makes the sex even hotter. It's almost weird when the girl just hands over the pussy without resistance. We started fucking and she was a CRAZY FUCK! I pounded the shit out of this girl! Damn I needed that. She came twice. I came. It was all worth it. Damn that was a bumpy road. Now, remember it's all about staying out of the orbiter zone. She's already inviting me to her parties and clubs. I'm playing that hard to get. I may try to just get her to come over after that stuff booty call style. She must not start viewing me as a potential dollar sign. It's also worth noting that this girl mostly responds to hard game, not soft game. That is true of most NYC club girls. My wing has insane hard game he uses on girls. He starts making out with girls and then tells them seriously "Get the hell away from me, don't ever talk to me again." I don't even get what he's doing with that one, but you get the idea. This redhead girl is already sending texts about how I'm so cocky etc. So I think I'm safely outsi det heor bi t erzone.She’ ski ndof a pain, I'm not sure if I'm going to bother getting her into rotation. If I have to go through that process all over, I think I'm going to smack someone. Wow, what a great fuck though. I'm so torn! *Br adPt oLear nmor eaboutBr ad’ sappr oachest oSameNi ghtLays check out his audio seminars at www.Bradppresents.com
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BUILD ATTRACTION BREAK RAPPORT-AFC ADAM LYONS: Working as a club promoter can put you in some pretty interesting situations - like being at a table i nacl ub,al onewi t ht engi r l s!I t ’ sahar dl i f e, i sn’ ti t ? My friend John arrives with two girls - he tells me the brunette is his target, soshe’ soutoft hepi ct ur e.I ’ mf l i r t i ngwi t ht hewhol egr oup,bei ngt hel i f eand soul of the party, playing around and flirting with the girls. Not only is this a lot of fun, but it makes me the center of attention in the group - an attractive place to be. I ’ vespental otoft i mer ecent l ywor ki ngonmy‘ l ook’t oo- so not only am I the center of attention, but I ’ ml ooki nggr eat- i tal laddsup,andI ’ m get t i ng l ot sofi ndi cat or sofi nt er estf r om t hegi r l sar ound.Makessense,doesn’ ti t ? Toni ghtt hough,I ’ m notj ustoutt opar t y.I ’ m outt opi ckup,soi t ’ st i met o choose a target. Ther e’ sabeaut i f ulbr unette, but I find out she has to leave early (keep your eye on logistics!), so I take her number so I can follow it up later. The one I l i kemosti sJ ohn’ sgi r l- butshe’ sst r i ct l yof fl i mi t s.Ther e’ sa blonde chick who isal loverme,butshe’ st ooi nt erested, and too drunk - both are a turn-off; I l oveachase… Butf i r st ,J ohn’ sgi r lhaswander edof ft oanot hert abl e,wher et her e’ saguy she likes. J ohn’ smor ei nt er est edi nanot hergi r lonourt abl e,soI ask his permission, and he says ok. I t ’ sgoi ngt obeat r i ckysi t uat i on,butI ’ m notadat i ngcoachf ornot hi ng,so I wanderoverandsay“ Hey,whatyouupt o?” She tells me she likes this guy, and so I say“ Tot al l y,he’ shotandyou should fuck him tonight - my friend Katie picked him up in like 10 minutes last Sat ur day. ”Shel ooksatmeabi tshocked,andI say“ Hey,you’ r eabi ggi r l , youunder st andr i ght ?” ,andt hedamagei sdone- she’ sl osti nt er esti nt he guy. I made him too available to her, and people like a bit of a challenge.
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The past coupl eofpar agr aphsar eabr i efover vi ew ofwhatAdam’ s method. First he establishes social proof. Then he makes any other attractive male seem too available. It el lherI ’ l lshow hersomet hi ngcool ,andI move her over to the bar, wher et her e’ sahuge fish tank. We chill and chat for a bit, and I think to mysel ft hati t ’ st i met ost ar tr eel i ngi ti n. Do I have comfort with her? That is, is she comfortable being around me andchat t i ngt ome?Yes.Soi t ’ st i met obr eakr appor t . Another main part ofAdam’ smet hodi sbr eaki ngr appor tt obui l d attraction. Adam:Youknow what ?I ’ m ki ndof a blunt person. I find life easier that way. Don’ tyou? Brunette: What do you mean? AdamLondon: Well I can’ tbebot her edt odealwi t hot herpeopl e’ scr ap.Ther e ar et oomanypeopl et hatl i eandt al kr ubbi shandI ’ m notdownwi t ht hat .I fI like a girl I tell her that, and I tell her that she looks hot. I like her and may wantt ohaveaf ew goodmeal sandsomegr eatsex,butt hatdoesn’ tmeana relationship. Why would anyone want to do that? Get into a relationship with someone they have only just met. Brunette: I know what you mean. This is what I call passive acceptance of the frame. Because, shedoesn’ t ar gueoractcr eepedoutbyAdam’ ssexual i zi ngoft hei nt eraction, the frame has been set to have sex without relationships. Simply by having this conversation the girl has passively given Adam permission to escalate. Adam also does something I call prepping here. He gives the girl a clear indication of what toexpecti ft heycont i nuet ohangout .He’ sal r eady est abl i shedt hati fhel i kesher ,he’ sgoi ngt ot el lherandi fi twor ksoutt hey can have some good meals and great sex. If he hits on her later and she accepts it she knows further sexual escalation is coming and she has already given her consent for him to escalate by staying.
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Guysgetst ucki nsi t uat i onswi t hgi r l swher et heywon’ tmaket hi ngs sexual .They’ r escar edt hatt hegi r lwi l lr ej ectt hem,ort hatt hey’ r esomehow being creepy or sleazy. Sot heyj ustt r yandbeni ceandf r i endl ywi t ht hegi r l… andt heyendup j ustbei ngf r i endswi t hagi r lwho’ sonl yeverni cet ot hem! Bybei ngover t l ysexual ,I ’ m br eaki ngt hecomf or t abl ef r i endvi bet hatwe have.Now I ’ vebr okenr appor t ,I want her to start working for me - to start qualifying herself to me.
Adam: I ha t ec r a ps e xt oo. Y ou’ r enots omeonewho’ sba da ts e xa r e you? [said with a friendly smile] Brunette: No way! Ada mL ondon: Hr m, g i r l sa l wa y st hi nkt hey ’ r eg oodi nbe d. Wha tma k e s you special? Brunette: I g i v ea ma z i ngbl owj obs … Again the fact that she answers this question with something legitimate showshercompl i ance.She’ sact i vel yseeki nghi sappr ovalatt hi spoi ntaswel l asget t i ngsexual .Thever yactofaski ngagi r li fshe’ sbad in bed also assumes that they will be getting sexual later. Excel l ent !I ’ m aski nghersexualquest i onst hatpr esumet hatshehast ot el l mewhyshe’ sgoodenoughf orme. Whatadi f f er encet hati sf r om how mostguysdoi t !I ’ m maki ngherwor k for me at this point. Most guys are scared to try this - i t ’ sal eapoff ai t h,af t er all - butt hent hat ’ swhymost guys are going home alone. Thi si sgoi ngwel l .Wehadcomf or t ,I ’ vebr okeni t ,andI ’ vegother qual i f yi ngt ome.Dower ememberwhat ’ snext ?
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I ’ vegotaf ew opt i ons.I cangobackandsol i di f ywhatI ’ vegotsof ar- chat to her for a bit, build some more comfort, and then break it again. OR, I can steam forward, and move in to sexual escalation: Adam: You know when you really tease someone and trace a line up their leg with your tongue in between their legs, while pinning them down and rubbing their back? You know what I mean?Ther e’ ssomet hi ngsogr eatabout t hewayt hef emal ebodyr eact st ohavi ngi t ssensi t i vepar t st ouched… Now we know from experience that girls will start to relate things you say t ot hem,eveni fyou’ r enott al ki ngaboutt hem speci f i cal l y.SoasI ’ m sayi ng t heset hi ngs,i t ’ sst ar t i ngt ogetherhor ny. I ’ m onl yabl et odot hi sbecauseI ’ vegonet hr ought hest agessof ar - if you wentupt oagi r lyou’ dnevermetbef or eandst ar t edsayi ngt heset hi ngs, you’ dgetsl apped! Now I wantt ocheckt hatI ’ m notgoi ngt oof asther e,soI checkt hatshe’ s comf or t abl ewi t hwher ewe’ r eat- I lean right in and start speaking in to her ear. This is an invasion of her personal space - i fshe’ snotcomf or t abl ewi t hi t , she’ l lpul lback,andI ’ l lknow I need to take a step back. What do I whisper?
Adam: Especially when you really tease someone. She’ scomf or t abl ewi t hi t ,soI kiss her neck, pull back, and look straight in to her eyes. She giggles:
Br unet t e : OhmyGod, ha ha , wow, I ’ ms ohor ny I lean back to let things calm down a little - I don’ twantt ogetbuyer ’ s remorse. This turns out to have not been a great idea! She says she needs the toilet, and I let her go. She comes back, and her body language has changed. This is a state break. Instead he should have tried to move her somewhere secluded and escalated further or made an excuse to go back to his place. This is a mistake even the best can make when things are escalating really fast. Whi l eshe’ sbeeni nt het oi l et ,awayf r om me,she’ scool eddowna bit, realizedt hatshe’ smeantt obepl ayi nghar dt oget ,andt hatshedoesn’ twant to look like a slut. PAGE:
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I ’ m Adam,soI can handle this.
Ada m: Y ou’ r ec ut e , y ouk nowt ha t ? Brunette: Why? Ada m: Y ouha v eac ut el i t t l ei nnoc entf a c e. I t ’ spr et t y , buti t ’ shi di nga s mi l et ha ts a y s“ Wow, Ir ea l l ys houl dn’ tha v el e tmy s e l fg ets ot ur ned on with someone I ba r e l yk nowi nac l ub” Brunette: [giggles] Ha ha ha! Adam: I was thinking the same thing, I had the same feeling, but it felt g ooddi dn’ ti t ? Brunette: Mmmm, yeah! By saying that hef el tt hesameway,he’ spaci ngherr eal i t y.Thi si svi t al l y i mpor t antwi t hsameni ghtl aysbecauseyouneedt oshow hert hatyou’ r ea little nervous sexually about how fast all this is going. By pacing and getting her to agree with the current situation, he has put himself in a situation to lead the interaction and escalate sexually again. Now she’ squal i f yi ngher sel fagai n… i t ’ st i met ogobackt osexual escalation. This stuff is easy! So I lean in, and brush her hair from her face (another little personal space invasion) and say:
Ada m: I t ’ sj us tI c a n’ thel pi t . I love teasing people and watching them squirm. I t hi nky ou’ dl ookg oodr ol l i nga r ounda r c hi ngy ourba c ka sI t ea s ey ou… Brunette: “ Mmmm” Ada m: “ L et ’ sg os omewhe r equi et er . ” Brunette: “ Whe r e? ” Ada m: “ Myf l a t ” . Brunette: “ I don’ tt hi nks o, I ’ mnotg oi ngt os l eepwi t hy ou! ” Adam: “ He y , r el a x , we’ r enotg oi ngt oha v es ex . I want to hang out with you. ”[ c omf or t ] . T henI ’ mg oi ngt ot ea s ey oual ot …[ br e a k i ngr a ppor t ]
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Do you think you could handle it? [qualifier] Again notice the pacing and challenging, mixed with arousal. Then hard qualifiers. Brunette: “ Ofc our s e…” Adam: “ T henl et ’ sg etoutofhe r e. ”[escalation] I t ’ ssi mpl e,i sn’ ti t !Shesendsherf r i endhomei nacab,andweheadt o mine. I build comfort on the way, play with breaking rapport, tell her she has a cute ass, and we get into the flat, start kissing, walk into the bedroom. Game over! To learn more about Adam and his method check out www.Attractionexplained.com
MOST GANGSTER PULL EVER!!!-SINN So I finally after 6 weeks on the road, have some free time, and a new LR... It all started off when I dropped my car which had been sitting in my garage for six weeks accumulating dirt and having someone write faggot wash your car on my trunk in the dirt. Classy! So I finally get my car jumped and drive it a harrowing 40 miles to the BMW dealership. Not really 40 but close. This particular dealership happens to be in the same suburb of the city, as a certain swashbuckling PUA who happens to be one of my closest friends. Also a friend I hadn't seen in a few weeks. A couple calls later we are back bullshiting and eating at the outback. Not as good as usual today for some reason. I think it was the cheese fries being undercooked. We roll to the mall and then decide to hit a happy hour place. It was awesome, but we end up back at my place and get a call from Shaft and El Topo. They have been working on some SICK new stuff regarding frames and cognitive dissonance. Really brilliant stuff Shaft has come up with! PAGE:
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We meet up for dinner, then roll to meet Twitchy at a new club opening. We ran into Elation and Simple, but the club volume gets turned up to a horrifyingly vibrating internal organs level. And so we roll to our usual SNL venue. And it sucks. Balls. Hard..It's loud (ER), the cover price has been upped, and there is an awful ratio. I get some drinks from my bart enderandwat choneoft heci t y’ sbest players. He's a promoter at some venues out here and ALWAYS has some crazy hot girls all over him. He's a little too aggressive and sometimes blows himself out, but he always leaves with three or four hot girls. He's kind of a dick, so my attempts to befriend him have not gone swimmingly well... Then I see her. She's got HUGE boobs, she's 5'4 she's got reddish blonde hair. And she's a H-erd (A hot nerd, I think I stole that from Jlaix somewhere...) She's got these super hot secretary glasses on and a look that just screams dork. She's a 9.5 to me. She hits my type of “ funusual”exactly. If you've ever taken a bootcamp with me, you've heard me describe my type ... and she's it... I go to tap her and tell her she's a h-erd, when she opens two big black guys. Oh well I'll see her again. Hopefully? I roll around and find CJ. We're talking when she walks out and in midsentence I roll after her. I open her by telling her she's a h-erd and then explaining it to her. She thanks me and I say "Oh you didn't do it on purpose? You really are a nerd!" We start talking and I get the dreaded BF objection, plus he works at the venue...I treat it like she just said "Spiders, Monkeys, Pirate Ninjas." I keep talking and she brings it up again. Again I ignore and I talk about how awesome I am. It's on she's telling me I'm awesome, grabbing my wrists etc. PAGE:
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The BF rolls up and I say "You have a really sweet GF." He replies: "Thanks, she's my angel." She has just offered me a drink, and he escorts me to get it... I actually for a second thought I might be getting kicked out, as he walked me to the service area. I get a drink and we talk about how cool his girl is. We go back. He offers to get me a chair and leaves us to talk. The key here was me remaining completely comfortable with the boyfriend being there. If I had gotten nervous or acted like I was ashamed or uncomfortable with what I was doing, he would have noticed and I would have been in trouble. Instead I just acted as if it was normal and so did he. I start qualifying and then tell her that she needs to walk away from me right now or I will start hitting on her. She tells me I already have been. I start breakthrough comfort. It's easy because this girl is really amazing. She's smart and funny and honest and self-aware, and a complete decorated emergency... (but a fun one!) Thest opdoi ngt hatorI ’ m goi ngt ost ar thi t t i ngonyoui sanexampl eofa prep. I use stuff like that a lot, becausei fsheaccept st hei deat hatI ’ m hi t t i ng on her I can turn things sexual much faster. Remembergi r l swantt obehi tonbyguyst heyar eat t r act edt o.Onceshe’ s shownshe’ sat t r act edt oyou,st ar t shi t t i ngonher ! She starts talking about how she cheated on her BF already. This is what we call an IOI for those of us watching at home. This is her version of a prep, she was trying to get the idea that I could have sex with her even though she had a boyfriend out into the open. She also later pointed out a guy and says that he was the guy she cheated on her BF with. Whether or not that was true, she was trying to make me comfortable. I go into my sexual frames ... I hit them all and tie them into a breakthrough comfort style explanation of why I like her and want us to be AT LEAST friends.
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I regress, take her to childhood, using routine Shafts taught at dinner ... Money BTW. She asks me what I'm doing after this as her BF works till very late...(Yet another IOI for those of us who have trouble with these things.) I reply honestly and add that if she wants she can join me. She agrees. I handle logistics with CJ and Twitchy and we roll out different exits meet out front and depart. I later made her beg to come... multiple times... So I pulled a girl from in front of her boyfriend to my house in about two and a half hours... While he was buying me drinks and food .... I'm going straight to hell. This was a great test for me a girl who was my absolute physical type and I was able to get her.
WHAT HAPPENED IN NEW YORK?-SINN So I got into NY on Wednesday night, but was exhausted as that happened after my last post where the girl was snoring after I laid her. We chilled out and got some sleep. Then we had to go start the seminar. The group this weekend was a pretty good one, but we knew it was going to be tough running a program at all the bars where the PUA’ shang out. But since the reason they hang out there is, because they can get in without having girls... So we didn't actually have in field Thurs night and Fader came over and we hung and played video games while Future finished a paper for school... Friday we had another day of seminar and ended up hitting the venue. I did one set and made out with her, but she was from Long Island and left around 12... I can't leave till 2 or so :( I actually got really sick in the middle of the set and had to go across the street to CVS to get some anti nausea medicine and Advil.
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The program went really well despite a lot of students getting called out for being PUA’ s... We head home and catch some sleep. I've been having a really hard time getting enough sleep on the program. In fact in NY I probably got 20 hours of sleep over 5 days. The second night of program, the students did a whole lot better. And we were about to leave when all of a sudden Approach Coach X comes up me and tells me he thinks he can pull his 2 set and he told them he has a hot friend... We get up there and the friend is talking to some chode, she won't come over even after Approach Coach X told her to get her three times. I'm annoyed and don't care that much about getting laid so I tell Approach Coach X we should roll... we decide to get a shot first, and as we are Approach Coach X's girl rolls back over and is all up on his shit... So she finally pulls the other girl away whispers something in her ear, and then I grab her hand and say we're leaving... Tabs get closed, and a cab is hailed. All is going well when of course the first test of congruence appears... Girl I fucked (GIF for future): "Where are we going?"
Sinn: "We're going to X neighborhood, you don't have to come if you don't want to." I'm in the cab sitting down as she does this and she's standing at the door. It was key! Here I demonstrated that I was willing to walk away. If I came over and was all into the girl simply because her friend was into Approach Coach X, I would have looked desperate. Instead I have to look like I don’ t care about getting laid. Especially since the friend was already being kind of tempestuous. They get in and the girls proceeds to bust on me for saying like too much (I do) then telling me we can be friends, etc. Idi dn’ tcomei nt ot hi ssetwi t hanyval uesoshewast est i ngmel i kecr azy. I responded by agreeing and exaggerating everything. I was kind of annoyed at this point and did not think I was going to get laid in any way shape or f or m…
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We get back to Future's place and head inside. Future and his devil of a dog are up and waiting for us, Future takes the dog for a walk and in his very own thinks he's clever way to have a long conversation with the girl he's stupidly falling in love with. I decide to test my new physical escalation strategy of escalating touch until she stops me. I call it I dare you to stop me method :) I make out with her non-stop! I put my hand up her shirt, no stopping. However I am in a small studio apt with Approach Coach X and his girl three feet away on the futon of death and me on Future's bed. This was a pretty funny scene as I was on one corner of the bed and Approach Coach X was on the futon which was splayed open on the floor. I was laying with myheadi nt hegi r l ’ sl ap,reaching up her shirt to feel her up before I decide we should go to the roof... We get up there, check out the view and I continue to escalate. I'm feeling her up when ACX moves his girl to the other side of the roof. I put my hand down the girl’ s pants, and she stops me from removing her pants. I keep fingering her until she lets me pull the pants down, put her up on the ledge of the roof and fuck her... I actually got my hand down her pants. Then pulled mine down and she was jerking me off until I tried to pull her pants down. Then, I just fingered her a little more pulled down her pants and fucked her. She had an amazing l owerbackt at t ooandt hehot t estassI ’ veseeni nperson. Then we get back down to the APT and the two girls are giggling to themselves. Future asks me if I care and then tells them to get the fuck out while berating them for being rude. It was hysterical and I couldn't look at them for fear of laughing. APX was doing the same thing across the way and tried to distract himself with a DVD, but the title he pulled from the shelf was deep cheeks 7. (A classic but you have to see deep cheeks 6 or you’ l lbel i kewher edi dt hatGay Indian giant come from?) They leave and we laugh for awhile before catching some sleep before my SNLs program.
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MORE THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN NY: I assisted Future on another Asian girl success. I opened and pumped her BT leading to her blowing Future in the car the next day. Fader had ten drinks and was totally coherent and sober... His drinking abilities are disturbing. I had five or six girls ask me if I was a PUA including the girl I fucked and the girl APX pulled. A student who was 50 years old bought a pair of fuzzy shoes. And, I met Dr FeelGood from the lounge. Cool guy. I slept all of about 20 hrs in 5 days while nursing a cough that could kill a horse. I once again survived the futon of death including waking up on chewed up pizza crust and having the stupid ass dog wake me up three times in the middle of the night. I watched a lot of football sun night on Future's 80 inch screen. And, I broke my Mac laptop, by stepping on it. That was one of the most random lays ever. It happened because I passed her tests went sexual and escalated physically. The stealth escalation, became an inside joke between us and after we had fucked before, we went to find her friend, Shesai d“ Thi sNEVER happened. ”Andsmi l ed.
LR: KAREOKE TIL SUNRISE: SINN Last night I went out with Shaft, CJ, and Twitchy. We hit the perplexing venue. This is a venue where sometimes it's packed, others its dead. The girls are all hot and have major attitudes. This was the scene of the 7 blowout night CJ and I had a couple months back. Last night it also had a very San Diego esquire 9 to 1 guy to girl ratio. We got there a bit early and so we sat around chatting. I finally decide that I'm going to get a cigarette. I then run a transition and get ignored by the target. I talk to the obstacles a bit and then roll out.
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This girl who blew me off here ends up being the girl I lay. Just goes to show t hatyouneverknow what ’ sgoi ngt ohappenl at eri nt heni ght .Gi r l st hat blow you off can have a change of heart. This girl literally ignored me while I was trying to talk to her here and a few hours later begged me to fuck her. I watch as this one guy grabs about three girls in a row creeps them out and then turns to tell me that " She ain't shit, I make more money in a week than she makes in a year..." I'm not a misogynist, so this line of conversation is VERY dull to me. However much like the famous "Bill" from Chi I decide that I can use this guy as my opener all night. “ Bi l l ”wasaguyFut ur eandmysel fmetonaboot campi nChi cago.Hewas literally like girl repellent. We watched him crash and burn with his ZZ top bear dandcl everpi ckupl i ne“ I ’ mf r om Canada”andwet r i edt ost r i keupa friendly bar conversation with him. And he was a dick to us, so all night Future and I followed him around as he approach girl after girl and got rejected. Thenwe’ dswoopi nandgamet hegi r l s.Occasionally he came back and got annoyed to death or told to leave.I twasaf unni ght .Thel essondon’ tber ude to random guys at the bar because they might have game So I roll up on this 2 set he had grabbed and tell them that watching them get hit on was the high point of my night thus far. The target is a super hot blonde and she is testing all over the place. She keeps grabbing me, but she won't qualify herself and it doesn't seem to be going the right way. I back turn and she turns me back around... then, as it seems to happen so much in a perplexing venue, they decide to leave. In retrospect, what I think happened was I started giving her indicators of interest, because she pulled me back around and then she got turned off, because I l ostmy“ har dt oget ness” . Ok, I go back inside and I see the girl who ignored my transition getting gamed by this fat dude, he tries to grind her and she pushes her off him. I roll up next to her and say “ He'd be perfect for you". She gags and starts laughing... I game her a bit. The guy just stands there. I then move her outside. We're sitting down and she is very sassy, but she's also touching me and qualifying herself, so I deal with the attitude that makes me want to walk away.
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She has to go to the bathroom so I come back in and chill with Zen ninja master CJ. I also may or may not have complained about hot chicks with chodes and suggested that I start wearing polo shirts and shorts to bars. I run back into her at the bar and she is now being grabbed by a short dude who just claimed to be the owner of the club when he had offended a different girl. I call her by her name and pretend we are long lost friends. We ditch the grabby guy and go back outside. I start strawberry fields and sexual framing ... I actually never got to finish straw fields as her friend came out and I had to befriend her. This is a great tactic when you can get away with it. Just start talking to the obstacles about how you and the target are long lost friends or went to high school together. You can also use this as an opportunity to tease the girl bysayi ngsomet hi ngl i ke“ She used to be the biggest dork in high school. Wait look at her now. What do I mean used to be? I find out that my girl is in town on a layover and is leaving tomorrow. I ask what's on the agenda for later, they say nothing. So I now know that it has to be tonight, because she never goes back to Florida in less than 15 hours. I do more qualifying and sexual framing, and text CJ to come out and Wing the obstacle. By the time he gets out there, there is another guy in the set. The ugly lights come on and I suggest we wait for her friend outside. I say I'm not ready for my night to end yet. She says that since she's only in town for tonight, we should hang out more. But she has to ask her friend. She walks to the car and I wait with CJ and Shaft. CJ suggest me going over there to make sure they can't leave without me... Good call. I get in the car and I hear the plan. First we have a stop in Korea town so the obstacle can do some coke, then another stop. My life flashes before my eyes on the 10 minute car ride. We end up at a karaoke bar in K-town. There are three Asian guys that were really nice. They bought me beer and food. And we sang. This is fun for an hour and a half. But we stay from 2:30 PAGE:
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till 6:30 am.... I made out with her somewhere in there and sang about a gazillion songs. I cannot explain how annoying this was, but I had no choice. I had already invested 3 or 4 hours and she was leaving soon. I tried to fuck her in the empty rooms at the karaoke place, but she stopped me at the (fake) boobs every time. I was also really worried about the logistics because she was staying with her friend and her friend lived at home... She asks me what I'm doing tomorrow and I say hanging out with you. She asks me if I can give her a ride to the airport. I see my chance here andsay,“ Actually I have a meeting right by DFW about an hour after that." I ask her where her stuff is, and it's in her friend’ s car. Perfect. I tell her to crash with me when her friend drops her off and then I'll take her in the morning. She agrees and after we get kicked out of the karaoke bar at 6:30 AM, we get dropped off. When we get in she changes and gets into bed with me. There's a little token resistance that I just pretend like I'm going to go to sleep with, and then it's on. She gives the best BJ ever and had a sexy porn star look on her face the whole time. I finally get to sleep at 9 AM and have to get up at 11:30 to drive her to the airport. FOUR SNLS this month!
LR: FEAR THE STACHE: SINN I have grown an ugly hairy Colin Farrell esquire moustache in an effort to look more sleazy. It is awesome ... I look like a pirate character from a punk rock B-movie on the first night of bootcamp. I pump a set's BT then I hand her Asian ass off to Future. Then I hit a moving set make-out with another girl then Savoy puts his finger up her friend's ass. The next set offers me her # after she says she's not staying up late.
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That night ends poorly as Future decides that instead of pulling and banging the Asian Hottie, he should come home and hang with his boy... Flash forward to the second night and we are at a MUCH tougher hipster weirdo and 90% Asian club. Asian girls are not my thing personally but there were a lot of hot ones there that night. And Asian girls are notoriously tougher in clubs on newbies. They don't generally volunteer as much in the conversation and their not real reactive. So I'm working with students and we're having a lot of rough spots. It's real loud, the girls are hot and there's not an overabundance of sets around. I decide I'll demo, I open a short girl with big boobs. She ignores me the first time as she's on her cell phone. I repeat 30 seconds later. It's not really on, she thinks I'm funny, but not attracted enough yet. I run a FAP. I pull her in and then push her away. She starts to want to leave to find her brother (Insert obvious foreshadowing here) and I dismiss her by telling her that if she keeps standing here, I'm going to ruin her for all other men. Ihadt opl ow t hehel loutoft hi sset .Or i gi nal l yshedi dn’ thearmebecause my vocal projecti onwasof f .That ’ swhyi t ’ ssoimportant to start talking loudly bef or eyougett ot hevenue.I fasetdoesn’ thearyout hef i r stt i meyoust ar t t al ki ngt ot hem ort heysay“What ?”you’ r eal r eadyI damage control. I work with more students, more blow-outs. Some progress. I had a real heart to heart with a student who was in a real bad place the whole weekend. I hope that guy gets some help. I re-open her and it's ON. This is the power of take always and moustaches I snicker to myself. I always implore students to re-openal lt heset st hatdon’ tbl ow t hem out hard. All of those 20 minutes to nowhere sets may change later on in the night. Remembert hegi r l sar epeopl et oo,whi l eyou’ r eof fr unni ngyourset s, she’ sget t i ngdr unk,havi ngf i ght swi t hherf r i ends,get t i ngt extmessages, danci ngandget t i ngi nt oabet t ermood,andget t i nghi tonbyguyswhodi dn’ t study this stuff and thus are usually boring. So she may realize that the most fun part of her night was talking to you for 20 minutes even thoughi twentnowher e,orshe“ wentt ot hebat hr oom” . PAGE:
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She moves me to have a cigarette. Cigarettes, they get you laid almost as much as The Mystery Method. Side effects include death. Once a girl relocates you, it's fucking over and you will be playing my favorite type of game. Don't fuck up game. I move her to get drinks 2X and back into a seated location. Movement is your best friend for SNLs ... move, move, move. Generally if a girl is willing to move twice with you inside the place you meet her, she will leave with you. I run the question game. I find out she hasn't had sex in 4 years. I go dominant and sexual on her and tell her I'm going to make her my dirty little slut later. She says: "promise?" I had run some of my submissiveness tests on her earlier and knew she would respond favorably to this. Dominance and submission are huge turn on’ s for most girls. The more submissive the girl the more she will respond to dominance. I try to make out with her somewhere along when she moved me for a cigarette, but I got rejected. I went in again and it was on. I even tried a trick I learned from the last LR girl and massaged her tongue with mine like a snake. Sounds weird, but it feels erotic. This girl commented. Remember when a girl says no to kissing you, it often means not yet. I suggest bouncing. She agrees, I close my tab and leave with her. We get downstairs and her brother( who we met in a charming example of humanity, when he yelled at her in front of me about not seeing him as he modeled clothes) he needs a ride. The girl uses one of my tactics, and tells me it's six blocks away when it's Vermont and something in almost silver lake. We ride there in silence as her brother and the guy she's agreed to fuck are both in the car... We drop him off. I start fingering her in the car. I pull back to Savoy's and close the deal in the guest bedroom. No LMR...
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Future gets laid around the same time with the Asian from the night before, and all is right in the universe. three SNLS this month puts me in the lead. And yes it's feels good to be a gangster.
LR: X 2 BACK TO BACK: SINN This starts Tuesday night, when Printer, CJ and some other guys and girls rolled to hotel bar. I had met a girl last time at Hotel bar on Tues, and I'm now two for two on sets at this bar. One of the people in our group was a reddish blond in a black and white dress. Topo was talking to her a little bit, but I don't think that he was gaming because he was asking her what she was going to study in school... Hotel bar is dead as fucking fried chicken. It sucks balls. I open a two-set with a big tittied full figured girl and an Asian girl. I open direct and lock in CJ comes by and it's on but they're still testing. I tease back a bit then I decide I'm not taking this and I tell the girls they're being obnoxious and walk off. This is a huge willingness to walk away DHV I do all the time. A girl can be attracted to you but still be bratty. I don't like sparring with girls verbally, as it doesn't help me get them into bed that night... Often I will prematurely end verbal sparring sessions with girls if I can’ tget them to stop. I do this by chastising them in a funny way and walking away. Thi sonl ywor kswhent hegi r l sar ei nt oyouandyou’ r ewi nni ngt hebat t l eof wi t s.I fyou’ r el osi ngyouj ustl ookbi t t er .I actually had planned on going back to this set. I roll off and I'm making another lap when HB black dress walks by me and compliments me on my huge belt buckle. I call her a meat gazer then run rings on fingers. My new version that incorporates what I was doing with sexual frames. I say I need a drink and move her into isolation. Since Printer brought this girl, I wanted to make sure that he was ok with me gaming her. He says he doesn't care and I go back in. It's super on... Strawberry Fields, hair pulling, the question game! I move her outside and we keep talking. I run through my cheat sheet of frames and themes and systematically hit all of them...
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We make out with my new super sexual kiss close, and her car is at Printer's house. We all roll back as Printer pulls a 2 set. It's amazing how fast his game is coming along. It really proves the power of individual instruction... Not everyone can afford it, but it really shortens the learning curve. We ride home and when we get back I suggest a game of pool after Printer lets me know there's an extra bedroom upstairs... We play half a game of drunken pool, I slam her against the wall make-out, feel up and then move her to the bedroom. No LMR. The lay happened in about three hours. This girl was a real Hottie and I should have number closed her, but I thought she was being weird after the lay, and I left. It also shows how easy endgamei swhenyou’ r edeal i ngwi t hpeergr oupl ogi st i cs.Wehadt ogoback t oPr i nt er ’ shousebecausehercarwast her e. Wednesday night: CJ and I run a few errands and decide to hit X bar before we hit up a SNL venue we like... We sit down next to a 2 set a blond and a red head with freckles and large boobies... I love red heads and big boobs... I open her by asking for a cigarette. If you smoke and don't use that as an opener, you're retarded... You're also retarded if you smoke (SINN). I then tell her she's a red head and I can't talk to her... I back turn slightly. She asks why and I respond, "Because I'm going to start hitting on you" she t el l smet hatnow “ Ishoul dsi tdown. . . ” This was an example of my prepping hooking really well. By telling me to sit down she was telling me she was attracted time to move into qualification and sexual escalation. Her friend wants to go home. CJ momentarily turns it around through his patented Ninja magic, but she has to be up early and she bails. I had earlier mentioned SNL venue and the target had been down but wanted me to pay her cover. Normally I wouldn't have, but it became obvious after Strawberry fields that she would need a ride home which means it's easy for me to get her into a seduction situation. I relent. Sometimes you have to supplicate.
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I actually initially told her I woul dn’ tpayhercoverasI felt like I was bringing sand to the beach. But It was so on by this point that I decide to keep it going and try to go back to back. Her friend leaves us with her, we bounce to the SNL venue and I install every sexual frame I need to again... It was awesome as I reframed everything to reflect how sex is natural and normal and physical connections are just as valid as emotional ones. She uses A LOT of sexual innuendos too, so our conversation over the question game devolves into dirty talk. One of the members of Retarded girl group was there and came over to say hi and tell the target I was a great guy. I bitched about her friend that I had made out with and then as CJ and I were pulling her and the one last week, she backed out hard. So I tell her friend I'm done with her, as she had been texting me asking why we hadn't talked. Theanswer ,“ because I haven't had sex with you yet. And I don't playt hesest upi d,i mmat ur egames” While we are talking she handles the logistics of me getting into her house, by asking me when I have to get up (6:30 PM) and then offering me a bowl and a beer when I drop her off. I give her a massage while we are outside waiting for CJ, who's in set with a black Hottie... Then I stop. I had already told her that I was a huge tease. She demands a massage when we get back to her house. She wants it by the pool, I say it's happening in your room. We get there, We smoke and go up to her room, no LMR... about 4.5 hours...
LR: 1 TO TIE 2 TO LEAD... FUCK CJ! 2 TO TIE 3 TO LEAD: SINN So we roll up to the club on the Scottsdale bootcamp, I start opening sets, and working with students. A few no go’ s, a couple decent sets, nothing special though. A student brings me into a set with a 2 and 7. We'll call her the divorcee: rings on fingers. Rings on finger si sCapt ai nJ ack’ sver si on,which is: Hey guys,
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I've field tested this five or six times now and I think about four of the Dallas PUA's that went to AsianPlayboy and Prophet's Dallas Workshop (which was AWESOME btw) tested it in field with good results too. I know this because I ran it on an HB and she told me I was the 2nd guy to tell her that! Ha Ha! I have a short DHV type version and I've created a longer comfort version that I haven't tested yet in its entirety (it is longer and is NLP-pattern based). Here is the shorter version: In every interaction I try to communicate (at least) the following three things to make sex easier... 1. We're both good at keeping secrets 2. When she sees someone that she's attracted to she becomes sexually aggressive 3. I'm not judgmental Here's an excerpt from a recent lay report where I think it helped immensely to allow her to become the aggressor... Quote: Originally Posted by Captain Jack "Did you know that what fingers you have rings on says stuff about your personality?" I point to the right pinky ring and say, "That means you are good at keeping secrets."
HB: "I tell my brother everything." CJ: "Just your brother?" That's ok. That's like a diary, plus he's family." CJ : “ And your right ring finger, that means when you find the right person and you're attracted (pointing to myself), you become sexually aggressive" HB: "Yessssssss!" CJ: I look at my left middle ring and say, "This means I'm not judgmental." HB: "Mmmmmmm...."
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Here's how I've been doing it lately in A2, C1 or mini-isolation. I'll look at the HB's hand and say, "hmmm..." HB: "What? What?" CJ: "You can tell stuff about people by which fingers they wear their rings on" CJ: *Look away and go silent - this is to bait her to invest in the convo* HB: "Tell me!" or "What do mine say???" Most girls will have at least two to three rings on their fingers. This is all BS, but I like to keep the pinky finger the "keeps secrets" finger and the right ring finger as "sexually aggressive when you find someone you like" finger. Then I'll say that the left ring finger (i.e. Marriage finger) means you are sexually submissive (which makes sense because you DID get married –Ha! Ha!).
CJ: "Wearing a ring on your pinky means you are good at keeping secrets. That's why you pinky swear and why mafia guys wear pinky rings." If she doesn't have a pinky ring on I say, "Damn, we'll have to pinky swear before we share deep secrets..." *smile* HB: "blah, blah" CJ: (I'll look at her other ring and it is usually either an index finger or the right ring finger for some reason) "And, this one means that when you find someone you are really attracted to (sneakily pointing to self with my thumb) you feel comfortable getting sexually aggressive with this person (again pointing to myself)" Ri ghther e,i t ’ simportant to NOT LET HER TALK. Because she might try to start qualifying herself as NOT being a slut or being marriage material or whatever, because she thinks you want a prim and proper girl like that. If SHE does get that out then you are going to have to go REALLY DEEP in comfort and rapport later (so don't make it hard on yourself, don't let her make a peep).
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So roll right into the last one. Point to one of your rings (remember it can't be a finger that you've already used on her so you may need to adjust your ring before this) and say: "When someone wears a ring on this finger (pointing to your ring) it means they are NOT judgmental. They don't have all of the HANG-UPS about life and relationships that most people do." Then, later throughout the conversation when sexual comments start coming out I (subtly) play with that ring once or twice. There you go. Please field test and let me know how it goes! The student buys the girls shots and then they roll off. I work with students some more and then run back into the divorcee. I pull her into isolation. Strawberry Fields Question game-- Almost Kiss I seed the bounce to the after party at our hotel. Her friend comes over and takes her to the bathroom. They come back and we make out and start hardcore sexual talk. I bring El Topo back into the set and we start my new wrecking ball routine. Divorcee starts running her nails up and down my back and I say if you keep doing that I'm going to have to do dirty things to you. I then say well I have to go to the bathroom and take care of myself. She asks if she can wat ch.Thi si spar tofBr adP’ sbat hr oom pul lgame I pull her to the bathroom and as soon as I lock the door, I hear a knock like the fucking police are outside. It' st hebouncer ,hesayswecan’ tbe in there together and I pretend I'm drunk and don't understand. I bring her back and me and ET decide to pull. Get her back to the hotel, strip her down except for her high heels, and tax like the IRS on April 15th. Turns out her friend told ET that she does this ALL the time and that usually her friend has to wait in the car.
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Afterwards, we go to eat and I talk merciless shit to CJ about how I'm now only down 1 lay to him this month. Then he gets a text from a girl he was talking to tonight who wants to come over. FUCK!!!! Now I've just treaded water all night. I'll still catch him like he was a robber and I owned a 7-11, it's just going to take more time. We go to after-hours and run into J-Dog and Cramias. It was great to see both those guys, then back to the hotel and CJ's girl rolls over and takes him back to her place 45 minutes ago. I feel bad for CJ because he's just forcing me to raise my game and pull again tonight... Today CJ looks noticeably redder due to the fire I am applying to his feet. He also has a ringing in his ears from the thundering of my footsteps. This lay happened during July 2007 when El Topo, myself and Captain Jack had a lays contest. El Topo ended up winning with 9 new lays, CJ had the most SNL’ s (7 I think) and I got the hottest girl which was this strip club waitress I briefly dated. Now t hatwe’ ver eadabunchofSameNi ghtLayr epor t s,l et ’ sbr eakdown the basics of Same Night Lay game. For a breakdown of SNLs we go to none other than the master himself Captain Jack:
HOLA PUAS, As promised, my insights on SNL's. The first major attitude shift is this: Women don't go to clubs/bars only to listen to music, drink or talk to friends. They can do all of those at home or at a friend’ s house. They go because they want/need sex and they want to be picked up. Debriefing shows they would have sex the same night more often were the feelings there. Your job, fellow pirate, is to create the feelings, create the opportunity and do so in a manner that seems so natural and easy that it seems like it all just fell into place.
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Sinn referred to this when he said, "Captain Jack Method: Hang out till sex happens." First I want to tell you that there IS a difference between Same-Night-Lays (SNL) and One Night Stands (ONS). ONS skips comfort which usually results in buyer's remorse. For all the four or five hours of precious time you invested you get one lay. Even worse, if you mismanage the escalation and trigger ASD / LMR that you can't get through, you'll get zero lays. I've never had any problems seeing/dating a girl who I laid the same night because I qualify and build comfort. I'll take this from the top... You need to get there early (in Tejas, that means no later than 10:00) because some of your sets will fail the SNL screening statements (more on that later) and you'll need to close out with a TimeBridge, stay the obligatory five to ten minutes to solidify and move on. You should focus on mixed sets. This may seem counter-intuitive but experience has shown me this is true. Here's why: In all girl sets they often pile into one car. But, in mixed sets you have a greater chance of girls taking their own car and/or meeting the group later. Do a little thought experiment: How many times have you witnessed a girl walking into the bar alone...she's looking for someone...she finds them and before you know it she is seated with a 4-5 mixed set. You open the group in the standard way, do all the normal things you'd do until you hit the "How do you guys know each other?" waypoint. If she's not there with someone, then isolate (or at least get mini-isolation.) Now that you are in isolation it's time to start with the sexual framing. I use my version of Strawberry fields and "Rings on Fingers" to frame things sexually and I start seeding the TB. It is supremely important that you don't convey any "judgmentalism" regarding sex, sexual preferences or lifestyles in any way, shape or form.
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You also don't want to place too much importance on sex by talking about it or calling it a "special thing between two people" or any silly shit like that. The underlying attitude is sex is normal, healthy, fun and about to happen soon. At the beginning of C1 I start to screen for logistics issues. I listen for answers to these questions or ask them outright. Who did she ride with? (Best answer is, of course, alone in her car.) What time does she need to get up in the morning? (Best answer, later the better.) (These things just make it easier. The better you get the more willing girls are to ignore things like riding home with guys she just met or getting up early. I know it's hard to believe but experience proves it true.) If the vibe is sexual and I feel like there are no obvious excuses for her not to come home with me (have to work early is the main one) I'll stay around. If not, then I'm looking for a new set. This needs to be run super-tight. I'm talking 20 minutes in you're making this decision because you need to be solidly in comfort by 12:30 (for venues that close at 2:00). This 1.5 hours is the MAIN (but not only) factor which distinguishes this from ONS (the other being non-sexual qualification and peer befriending.) I call 12:30 to 2:00 "Putting my time in..." Always TimeBridge, it makes the SNL easier because it lessens ASD and LMR. As it gets closer to closing time 1:20-1:30 I start saying things like, "I don't want the night to end, I'm really enjoying myself." If she agrees or says nothing you can say, "Let's hang out at my place. I have xyz alcoholic drinks and we can watch that show I was telling you about." Or, you can say, "I'm kind of hungry." You're saying this to see what kind of reaction you get. She may go ahead and propose eating somewhere. (Though, I've stopped doing this almost a year ago because I lost a few "sure" lays as the sexual tension lessened, the tiredness set in and the alcohol (and fun mode) wore off.)
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The after-hour clubs are also a good proposal. I've used this one quite a few times. It's perfect because you have to swing past your place to get alcohol before heading out. And, oh by the way, the club doesn't even open till 3am so we got 45 minutes to burn. Let's see, how are we going to kill 45 minutes? I know we'll have sex ... Ha Ha! But, one of my favorite tactics (if she drove) is to get her to give me a ride home. Then, while in the parking lot you can say "Come in for a bit. You can use the restroom and have some water before you head home." Then, grab her keys, turn off the car and get out. (What's that? Do I hear you worrying about your car? Don't worry about it dude, you're going to get laid! Have a friend take you back to your car if need be. Or, better yet, have the girl do it that night.) Logistics separate the men from the boys (or the PUAs) The best mental image I can give you here is "Baby Steps." I rarely tell them where/how far away I live. Some of the places I go to are a good 35-40 minutes away. Fidelio, KinoMaster, and Tribulus have all witnessed with their own eyes me doing this, multiple times, as well. The goal is to get her to the seduction location and make it look like it sort of just happened. This is why the "Gimme a ride home" and the "after hours venue, oh wait, gotta go home and get alcohol" tactics work so well. Hopefully, you started a good kino progression early in the sarge. Because once she's in your place it's time to amp it up a little bit. Hot or cold is the order of the day. Make out, pull back, continue with your comfort material, tease her mercilessly. Have your LMR skills honed because you'll almost surely have to use them. The good news is: If you don't get the lay, the day2 is almost assuredly going to be her coming straight over to have sex with you and that's my kind of date. If you want to learn how you too can get all the SNLs you can handle go to www.Sinnsofattraction.com/SNLseminar PAGE:
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THREESOMES AND IN VENUE LAYS: Threesomes, every man has fantasized about them, but for most people they remain just that.... a fantasy. However the threesome code has been cracked within the seduction community and the following reports will give you a great idea of how to take your fantasy and make it happen!
LR - HIGH COMPLIANCE THREESOME METHOD: BRAD P Passing on some new insights on threesomes! The more you do them, the more you learn. I di danot herone2ni ght sagoandi t ’ sbeeni l l umi nat i ng. Just for background info, let me tell you I've been trying to "crack the code" on threesomes for quite some time. Long before I was reading anything related to dating I was trying to figure it out. I got as far as having a super hot bisexual girl as my girlfriend and having her and another girl blow me in a club years back. That girl was always saying she wanted to have threesomes, but that's the closest we ever came. I just left it up to her too much. I didn't control the situations myself and that's why I never got too far ... typical chump attitude. I have a number of friends whose girlfriends say they want threesomes. The girls never go through with it. They just use the idea of it to get power in the relationship. One of my female friends told me straight out she just teases her boyfriend with it and would never do it. So take heed of this warning: if you let your girlfriend control the threesome, there won't be a threesome. This is a great point for guys interested in threesomes. You must take responsibility for the threesome. It has to be allaboutt hegi r l s’exper i ence, but you have to be in charge of making it happen.
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Then, I tried for a while seducing two girls at once who are friends. I have a technique for that which works pretty reliably, but only gets you to the point of making out and grabbing tits. It fails every time after that and the girls say "oh we have to go have a quick talk in the hallway." Every time! This is a great routine for escalating on two girls at the same time. You can use this to try to instigate threesomes or simply to build rapport and attraction with the obstacles to create an internal jealousy plotline within the set. The idea of an internal jealousy plotline is simply that you switch targets within the set so the girls get confused as to whom you want and compete for you. The technique works like this: You approach two girls and flirt with them for a while, but never seem to settle on one girl. Then you get them both together and begin building sexual tension as much as possible. Then you tell them "Ok we're going to play a game, but you have to promise not to cheat. This is how it works: you have to close your eyes and promise not to peak while I whisper something in her ear. Then while one girl has her eyes closed, you make out with the other girl. You stop intermittently and say "No peaking, you!" They always peak, and they know what's coming next, but having their eyes closes allows the girls to pretend they had no idea what was happening. Then you tell the girl you just finished making out with to close her eyes whi l eyouwhi spersomet hi ngi nt heot hergi r l s’ear .Whenshecl oseshereyes, you start making out with the second girl. Again, you stop here and there and say "No peaking!" After about 3 or 4 minutes, both girls have their eyes open and are making out with you. I've been able to get makeouts and shirts off reliably with this technique, but it's really hard to seal the deal. Anyway, back to the threesomes. When I finally figured out how to do it I realized it was really something that was dependent on so many factors and you have to manage all of them yourself. My first solid threesome a few weeks ago was two girls who were just so into me that they'd do anything I say. I had high compliance with those girls. But they weren't super hot, just 7s. It was easier for me to get 7s to comply. I had so much more value than them. And the threesome was fun, but I knew I could keep improving on this area.
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This week I've had two threesomes, both with the same two girls. Now I have it going with some really hot girls. Here's what's working: Being totally in control of every aspect of things. I did not let the girl choose who we'd have a threesome with; I bounced a few ideas off her and made the decision myself. The key point here was that Brad did not seem domineering during this. Instead he gave the girl a few options before he made the decision himself. Had he just picked without letting the girl know the options, it would not have worked as well. Having many girls around who give me high compliance. The primary (the ballerina chick) was giving me high compliance, and there were three other possible girls who I could call and they'd come over almost immediately. The higher the compliance the more girls will do for you. Thus it makes sense that you want to establish a high level of compliance before you try to get girls into threesomes. You can establish compliance in a million ways. Even something as simple as asking a girl to take some trash out to the can as she’ sl eavi ngget sthe girl used to doing what you tell her to do. The other thing about compliance is that it builds momentum. The more someonecompl i es,t hemor el i kel yt heyar et ocompl yi nt hef ut ur e.Soi t ’ s vitally important to increase compliance throughout the interaction from the pick-up through the relationship. Get improved sexual performance. Every time I have a threesome my sexual performance improves. First time I was a little nervous. This last time I was like a fucking maniac, pounding these girls for 30 minutes at a time over and over, girls screaming, jizz flying everywhere, girl’ s cumming a few times each. Let me write a bit of field report type stuff for this last one so you can see where the insights are coming from. New Year's Eve, I went out with the ballerina chick and as it turns out, two of my other threesome girls were at the place we went to; the redhead from my first threesome a few weeks back, and the crazy chick from a few days ago.
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We never found the crazy chick, because the place was so crowded, but the redhead and the ballerina chick were attracted to each other. That was surprising to me since the ballerina chick is so much hotter. The redhead is like a 7. Just goes to show you that sometimes women see things differently than men. I think she just digs redheads. We all talked pretty openly about the threesomes and they were saying "How come neither of us got to pick out the girl. We both weren't all that attracted to the other girl." Moral of the story - if I would have let these chicks be choosy, I would have had zero threesomes. I did the choosing myself and I got three threesomes. Better to get a bunchofhi ghcompl i ancechi cksandt hendot hechoosi ngyour sel f .I ’ dr at her just endure the complaints after the fact than let the girls take over choosing. Again another example of frame control; were Brad to roll over and apologize for that or try to set up a threesome with those two girls immediately, it would have backfired. I could have maybe had those two girls that night, but there was a third girl and she was drunk and obnoxious. She gave me this long player hating speech, "You better not hurt my friend's feelings, I will come find you and kick you fucking ass. Seriously I will. Be nice to her. I know your type; you think you can just do whatever the hell you want and not care about anyone else, blah blah blah." I told her, "I'm nicer to your friend than anyone. I give her great sex and cute girls.... (turn to redhead) Right?” She says "Yeah, he's really nice." But she kept going so I said, "Ok let me know if I ever make her sad. Cause sometimes girls like to suffer in silence. I have lots and lots of girls and I leave them all better than I found them. You’ l lsee. That shut her up! I knew I could just call Redhead the next day and have her come over, so I decided not to deal with this angry asshole. I will give redhead a note next time I see her that she should be careful, because if she ever gets a high quality guy interested in her, the friend will ruin it. The angry friend makes Redhead look like a low-self-esteem victimized woman, when she's actually not. If I were actually serious about Redhead and I found out she had low self esteem, I would probably ditch her after something like this.
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Redhead called me later to complain about how her friend was up till 7am puking and whining about how her life is so empty. No surprises there. So New Years day, I call the redhead up and invite her over, but she's tired, busy, whatever? So I go ahead and call the crazy chick. I tell her we're just mellowing out. She says she has plans, but calls back 30 minutes later because plans fell through. I tell her come over, we're watching a movie. Not sure if we'll fuck you that much if at all, just come by. So she does. We watch the movie. Then I start escalating both girls. The ballerina chick is such a great teammate. She escalated the other girl for me. We end up fucking like crazy for a few hours. There were some highlights: Ballerina chick ate pussy for the first time ever and made the other girl cum. I could not get her to cum myself, I tried everything. Crazy chick said it was "Because she had such a nice small mouth." OK, whatever works! We ate the ballerina chick's pussy for about 45 minutes and just switched off whenever we got tired. It's nice to have a helper. She came like crazy! We did freaky positions like one girl is eating another girl and getting fucked at the same time, etc. I fucked the ballerina chick till she was sore and couldn't take anymore. No problem. SWITCH! Busted a nut all over both chicks! I gave the crazy chick such a deep fucking that she was turning red from the pain. Me and the ballerina chick were both getting off on her yelping and crying. It was some sadistic shit. We just looked at each other and smiled while the crazy chick writhed and looked all scared and freaked out. We are evil fuckers! My quote of the day: "Ok,you'll be like the nurse who holds her hand to take away the pain. I'll be like the doctor who rips her insides open."A bit over the top! You think? Don't try that one at home, I'm a professional . ” To learn more about threesomes from BradP check out www.BradPpresents.com
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LR - ORCHESTRATING MY FIRST THREESOME: ENTROPY This is a long LR. It is detailed with encounters with multiple girls over the period of months, so grab some popcorn. Background It finally happened. After working months towards a singular goal, I was able to make a threesome happen. This has been new territory for me, and the learning process on the way was both exciting and frustrating. I had always read threesome LR's by guys like BradP and been in awe, but after experiencing how fucking hard it is to organize one in person, my respect has doubled -- your game has to be ROCK solid to orchestrate one of these. I had come close twice before, but blown it both times. The first time was when I first got into game. I somehow managed to end up at a college party with two cute girls sitting on my lap, one on each knee. We soon began a three-way make-out session, but my lousy escalation ended up weirding one out. A second time, I managed to bring two girls home from a club who were friends with each other. They had been saying they wanted to double-team me, but I didn't believe them (they seemed to be the cock-teasing type). I honestly just needed a ride home and figured they'd dump me at the doorstep. They actually followed me into my apartment and I began to make out with one. I motioned for the other to sit down on the other side of me when she freaked out and said she had to leave. Oh well, at least I banged the other one. So the possibility of two girls at once has long existed within my reality. It's been there, but slightly out of reach. These two occurrences happened with me kind of blindly going out, but there had to be some sort of method to this madness. I got on the internet and read some material by threesome masters like BradP and jlaix and managed to follow somewhat of a process. 1. Find your primary girl I found mine by accident. It was August 30th, 2007, a hot summer day. I
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woke up late for work (as usual) and began to rush out the door. In the other room I heard my roommate rummaging through some stuff, probably packing to leave. Our lease was to run out the next day and we were both in the process of moving out. As I begin to walk out for work, I hear an unfamiliar voice. "Hey!" I turn around. It's not my roommate. Who the fuck is this? Oh wait, it's a girl... and she's cute. "Hey, I'm moving in a bit early, I hope you don't mind. Can you give me a hand moving my bed?" I told her I was late for work, but if she was there when I got back I'd give her a hand. Real cute girl. Strong eye contact. Interesting vibe. Definitely attractive. I come back and help her move some stuff... except, I'm not exactly needed. There are three other guys over falling over each other to move her shit in for her. I'm courteous to the guys and tease her for losing her keys after having them only six hours. I call her princess and ask her if she's pleased with her servants. All of this is said in more of a casual manner as opposed to if I was in a bar or something. The flirting with the frame that I was home and with nothing better to do, I might as well flirt with her.
The next day, I came home from work and had a beer to unwind. At this point, our living room was completely empty except one reclining chair that we were going to throw out. I sat in that chair sipping the beer just relaxing when I hear the door open. I hope to myself that it's her. It is. She blasts through the apartment right past me not even noticing me. I sip my beer. She comes back out and pulls out her phone. I calmly watch and sip my beer. She even walks over to my room to see if I'm in there (IOI), and then walks back to her new room. I calmly remain in my chair, enjoying my frosty beverage. A few minutes later she brings a box into the hall, a mere 10 feet from me, with her back to me, opens it and begins assembling some furniture. I give it a minute and when it's really quiet I scream REALLY loud. She freaks out and jumps like three feet in the air. "Oh my God, I didn't even see you there! Have you been there the whole time?" I thought this was just playful and kind of funny. But at a later date, I asked her when she consciously knew she was attracted to me, and this was the moment. She said, "I thought you were cute, but that day when you just sat there in the chair forever when I didn't notice you, something about that really made me want you." The next day was the first and I was moving out. My new roommate came over to help me move all of my stuff and HBNewApt was in a cranky ass mood. As soon as we walk in she starts telling me stuff I have to move for PAGE:
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her. I kind of blow her off, but honestly, some of the shit was stuff me and my roommate left behind, so I eventually complied with some of it. But she wouldn't stop. Every time I came back it was something else I had to do for her -- it was getting REALLY annoying. I would tease her, ignore her, even argue a little, but she was stubborn as all hell and wouldn't let me off the hook. Honestly, it was kind of sexy. But regardless, fuck that, I'm not doing some girl's chores for her. I tell her, "I have one more box to put in the car, then I'll come back and move that chair for you." My roommate and I go back out and finish the car and I start to get in. He says, "you're not going to go move the chair?" "Fuck that dude, I've been doing her favors all week." Couple hours later, once I cooled off and unloaded into my new apartment, I realized that if I didn't make amends or somehow comply with HBNewApt, she'd be gone. I had # closed her the day before, so I figured I'd call her and test the waters. I had no problem ditching her on the spot if she continued to be pushy and obnoxious, but there was a charisma and sexiness to her stubborn authority. I wanted to know more. I like strong women who test my frame so well. I call her and it goes something like this:
HB: "Hey." Me: "Hey, it's Entropy4." HB: "Hi." Me: "Sounds like you think I'm an asshole. HB: "Well, it's not like I'm surprised or anything." Me: "Hah, well, then allow me to apologize. My friend was in a hurry." (It's not lying, it's flirting) "I was actually considering coming back and moving that stuff for you." HB: "Oh yeah, considering? It IS your shit after all." Me: "Yeah, but see, I'm pretty busy over here. We're setting up for our housewarming party. I have to know, how important is it to you?" HB: "Pretty important, I need to get this shit out of here." Me: "On a scale from one to ten, how important?" HB: *laughs* "Scale from one to ten? Um, I guess like a six." Me: "Oh, then it can wait until tomorrow." HB: "NO!" Me: *laughs* "Well, you said it was only a six on the importance scale, I have some pretty important things to do over here."
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HB: "OK, then it's a ten." Me: "No, no, you can't do that. Ten is reserved for cancer and terrorist attacks only." HB: *laughs* Me: "Are you belittling the severity of cancer and terrorism?" HB: "No, of course not. Well, then I guess it's a seven." Me: "Seven is doable. That's pretty important. Maybe I should come do it." HB: *laughs* "Yeah, you should, asshole!" Me: "Oh no, you have to ask nicely though." HB: "I did ask nicely, then you left!" Me: "No, you didn't. You're pretty bossy. I just demand some respect is all." HB: "Fine. Would you please come move the rest of this stuff?" Me: "OK, but on one condition." HB: "What's that?" Me: "You come to our party tonight and have a beer. You're cranky as fuck." HB: *laughs* "You're right. I might do that." Me: "OK, I'll be there soon." Ther e’ ssomer eal l ygoodf unnyf l i r t i ngi nher e,aswel laswhatI like to call reasonability. What that means is letting the gi r lwi nwheni t ’ sr easonabl e. Here Entropy was in no danger of losing his attractiveness, but if he had continued to refuse to move the stuff he would have lost the girl. A lot of game is knowing when to be reasonable. I go over there about 30 minutes later. She greets me at the door and within one second, before she even speaks or looks at me, I notice IOI's: she showered and did her hair since I left, she changed into a cute dress, her roommates are conveniently gone leaving her alone with me. I move the crap for her and she teases me while I do it. Afterwards she sits down with me and offers me a beer.
HB: "I didn't think you'd come back, honestly." Me: "I didn't think I would either." HB: "Really? So why did you?" Me: "I kind of like you."
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That ’ sagr eatexampl eofast at ementofi nt ent .Remembert her e’ snot hi ng wrong with letting an attractive girl know you like her. We chat for a bit, mostly fluff. I do a couple cold reads and am dead on. I isolate to her bedroom by telling her to show me something dumb she mentions or something. We're on her bed and I'm ready to kiss close when one of her roommates gets home. I decide to jet, but emphasize that she should come to the party that night and that all of her roommates are invited. She waffles a bit but agrees. For the community guys who were at that party, she was the brunette who spent most of the night on my lap with her lips attached to my face. We were that obnoxious couple who wouldn't detach or stop touching each other. This girl was REALLY sexual and got turned on very easily. She was very frank, at one point plainly saying, "I want you to fuck me tonight." A little later she said it again, and I suggested we go back to her place (my old place). It was a comical situation. Here I am, leaving my OWN housewarming party to go back to my old apartment, so early that everyone hasn't even gotten there yet. BUT, I do it anyway, and proceed to fuck her brains out. She was AWESOME in bed. She tells me now that she intended for me to be a one-night stand -- which is funny, because I could genuinely tell that there was a real chemistry between us that first night. Out of all of the girls I fuck, most I know won't last long, some I know will last a few months, and then there are rare few that I can tell I will get very close to. I could tell from day one, I'd end up very close to this girl. I came over again later that week. She tells me she also intended me to be a two-night stand. We end up consistent fuck buddies. Soon, she's promoted to my primary fuck buddy, considering the amazing sex we have and how well we get along. Emotional undertones begin forming in our relationship. One night about a month or two later, in our post-coital discussion, I bring up her hooking up with girls. She mentions that her roommate, HBViolinist and her like to hook up:
Me: "Oh, like at parties and stuff right?"
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HB: "No, fuck that, we don't do it for attention. It's when we're alone." Me: "Really?" HB: "Yeah. She's really sexy." The next line was said flippantly, but I figured I might as well shoot for the stars: Me: "Yeah, she is. We should bring her to bed with us one night." FB: (excited) "Oh my God, I would be in heaven." Me: "Seriously, we should work on that." F B: " I bets he ' ddoi t . ”I tried not to sound excited or anything, but inside I was screaming "YES! YES! YES!" Let one person do more of the sarging. This is shit is MUCH harder than I anticipated. At this point, I thought it was in the bag. Just get me, my FB and HBViolinist together the same night with a couple drinks, and viola! Didn't quite happen that way. My FB would get her to hang out with us, but whenever we began to escalate, HBViolinist would freak out and leave. At first, I blamed myself. HBViolinist didn't know me that well, so I figured I needed to run some game on her. The next time, I would flirt with her a lot and spend more time talking to her to build comfort. She'd stick around a little longer, but again, bail on us at the last minute. My girl was ULTRA-aggressive with her. She'd basically come out of nowhere and say, "So, are we going to have a threesome tonight?" And HBViolinist's knee-jerk response would be, "NO!" I began to realize, it was no different than a classic guy-girl sarge. She wants to be seduced, not convinced. We need to just make it happen, we can't talk her into it. At one point, when we were molesting her or something, I even said this, "We can't talk her into it. We just need to make it happen." And HBViolinist said, "EXACTLY!" Lesson learned: It's tricky with threesomes because you HAVE to suggest it without pushing it. You can't talk her into doing it, but at the same time, you have to let her know it's an option. So we backed off some, and spent more time together. Things got closer. HBViolinist would sometimes come climb into bed with us and there would be a lot of touching. But every time when I began to think it may happen, she'd
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get up and leave again saying, "not tonight," or "I can't right now." It was frustrating. This happened a few more times, until my natural reaction was to just call her for what she was, a tease. My girl agreed. I said, "I'm serious, she's acting exactly as if she's cockteasing a guy, except it's both of us at once." We talked for a bit until I said:
Me: "You know what we should do? We should go pick up a different girl together." F B: " OK. T ha tc oul dbef un. ” Me: "And I guarantee you, if we sleep with another girl together first, HB:“ Violinist will get jealous." FB: "True, she wouldn't be able to tease us like this anymore." A little later, FBNewApt and I went to a party together. I spotted a REALLY hot girl and talked to her for a minute. It was going all right, when I pulled FBNewApt aside and said:
Me: "I think she's really hot, don't you?" FB: "Yeah, she is. I've met her before. I think she's bi. Want to pick her up?" Me: "Absolutely." We re-opened her and I suppose the plan was we'd both flirt with her. What happened was just ridiculous. Like, I feel like I have some pretty solid game and my attraction game is definitely up to par. But I might as well not have existed. Here I am with banter and C+F lined up, and my girl just comes in with a little kino and tells her she looks cute and they're set. That's it. What would take me 20 minutes to do, she does in like 10 seconds. It's fucking ridiculous. I tried to flirt and banter anyway, but it seemed out of place and didn't go anywhere -- you know, the feeling you get when you over-game an HB6 or something, there's no reason to be running it and you feel weird for doing so. But this was fucked up, because this girl was a solid HB9 and looking really fucking hot that night. We even managed (and by we, I mean she) to get the target back home with us. We're hanging out in the kitchen afterwards and my girl and the target are kino'ing and kissing a little. At least this sarge was much smoother, but it's time for the suggestion.
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FB: "You're really sexy" *kissing HB9* HB: *moans* "You are too." FB: "You should come to bed with us." HB: *pause* "I can't." FB: "Aww, why not?" HB: *looks at me* "Well, I have a boyfriend, so I can only hook up with girls." "But I'd still love to sleep with you." FB: "Well, I'm not going to bed without him." *points to me* It fell through. And even though it was going to be hard to get her into bed with a boyfriend, I definitely dropped the ball on this sarge. Thinking about it later, I realized you can't approach the sarge as a 2v1 situation like that it probably overwhelms the target. Lesson learned: You and your girl have to act as a team -- you operate as one entity. As such, divide up the labor for efficiency. For instance, let her carry the work-load as far as attraction and comfort goes, because she's 10x better than you at it. All you have to do is be passively funny/hot. Be that by leading, being strong and alpha. You don't have to talk too much. With three people there are more than enough logistics, and managerial things to take care of, so take an initiative and do that. To illustrate my point about letting the girl take the workload, I'll give you a quick story from this week. I woke up Saturday at FBNewApt's. She got up to go out and get bagels and coffee down the street. She came back 15 minutes later and told me this: "So, I was in line at the coffee shop and there were two really sexy girls in line in front of me holding hands. One of them kissed the other and it was really hot so I told them they were sexy. We talked for a minute and I told them that me and a guy I'm seeing are looking to pick up girls together. I told them you were hot and good in bed and a good, trustworthy guy. So one of them gave me her number and told me to call her." She called her that night and we have a day 2 with her set up this weekend. Fucking ridiculous, right? See what I mean? Let her do the work. She's better at it. Lesson:Lett hegi r ldomostoft hewor kwhenyou’ r et r yi ngt oget threesomes. Girls are better at picking up girls than guys. Even PUAS.
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This doesn't mean you can't try to pull girls too, she's just going to be better than you. But I got into the act. I have an old FB from like a year ago, that I had been talking to again. I remembered that way back she mentioned that she had never hooked up with a girl but had always wanted to. I decided to rekindle things with her a bit and maybe try to pull her in to be the second girl. First, I told my primary girl, who agreed to hang out with her and gave me the green light to game her. Next, I went out with FBOldSkool a couple nights later with her friends. We were sitting around having drinks where I "just happened" to bring up the old conversation about her hooking up with girls.
Me: "You said you always wanted to fool around with a girl right? FB: "Yeah, I mean I'm curious. But I've never really tried. I don't know how to go about it or what to do. I guess I don't want it enough to go out of my way to do it. I prefer guys." Me: "Well, what about doing a girl and a guy at the same time, would you ever do that?" FB: "Yeah, that would be cool. It'd depend who it was. But I think that could be amazing." Me: "I've wanted a threesome for awhile, but it just never seems to happen. I've gotten close a few times..." Here, I tell her about my close calls, and then run my girl-girl-guy, fag-fag-whore routine (credit: Tucker Max). She laughs and we've been talking about threesomes for awhile now, I decide to make the suggestion. Me: "You know, I've been seeing this girl lately, she's really cool, and she's bi." FB: "Really? That's awesome." Me: "Yeah, we kind of actually want to pick up a girl together." FB: *she suddenly realizes what's coming and gets a nervous yet interested look on her face* "Yeah?" Me: "You should come out with us one night." FB: "You're not serious, are you?" Me: "Completely serious." FB: *silent, but still interested* Me: "She's a cool girl. I think you'll like her." FB: "Oh my God, I can't believe I'm going to do this." Me: "Look, just come out, we'll have some drinks, and if anyone is uncomfortable, no harm done." FB: *pauses* "OK." PAGE:
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I ended up going home with her and fucking her again. It had been a long time, and I think it may have made her feel better about the whole threesome thing. At the end of the night she said, "I'm actually kind of excited about meeting her." 3. Share the attention and sexual tension equally Admittedly; I thought it was going to be smooth sailing from here -- just as I had assumed it'd be smooth sailing prematurely with HBViolinist. A normal day 2 presents logistical and comfort issues. But these issues are just compounded with a third person. I really underestimated this phase of the pickup. Just coordinating all three of us to a cool bar on the same night at the same time without any other people was hard enough. Once we got there, it got even more complicated. This is one thing I didn't notice until thrown into the situation. You start with the threesome frame. You pick up a primary girl and get her to buy into the frame. And then the two of you find a second girl to buy into the threesome frame. During this time, all of the attention is either focused on your primary girl or your secondary girl. But once everyone's bought into the frame, no more convincing must be done, seduction must be done. And seduction is definitely a participatory exercise. Attention must be divvied up equally between the three of you. Sexual tension must be maintained between you and both girls and between the girls. Conversations must be managed so that antagonistic threads don't arise. For instance, if I bust on one girl, and the other girl laughs and busts on her too, we've now created an "us versus her" frame, which can be delicate -especially if the girl busted on is your primary. And of course, the golden rule, ALWAYS showing your primary girl more attention than the secondary. But at the same time, you cannot ignore the secondary girl to the point that she feels excluded or unwanted. The whole thing felt fragile and as a result, kind of stressed me out. But regardless, it went great. The girls hit it off and really liked each other and I f i gur edt hat ’ st hemosti mpor t antt hi ng.I had slept with both of these girls quite a bit and was confident they both really liked me. The conversations went well and the three of us even danced together for awhile. But still, the constant attention to everything was very taxing. There were times where one PAGE:
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person would quickly "drop out" of the interaction, because they hadn't been included in a conversation thread. And whereas dropping out of a conversation is harmless in a platonic scenario, when you're all trying to fuck each other's brains out, it can kill the sexual tension and the vibe. But in the end, it worked. My primary at one point blurted out to both of us, "I just want both of you at once." The secondary took it well, and at one point pulled me aside and asked me if FBNewApt was really into her or not. About 15 minutes later, FBNewApt pulled me aside and asked the same question. I said yes to both. And as you could probably guess, all three of us drank........ a lot. 4. A three-way close We all go to FBNewApt's place and hang out for a minute in her room. After a couple minutes FBOldSkool sidles up next to FBNewApt on her bed, and I'm still standing up. I had told FBNewApt before we went out that she would have to take the initiative to start things because FBOldSkool had never been with a girl before and didn't really know how to go about it. So while they're on the bed next to each other, I excuse myself to the bathroom. Pissing like a goddamn race horse, I stare in the mirror: "Please God, let them be making out when I come back. Please let them be hooking up when I get back." I finish and go back in. And? They're hooking up. They look up at me grinning. HBNewApt says, "What do you think?" I reply, "Jesus, what have I done?" They giggle and I climb onto the bed with them. Three-way kissing goes on for awhile. I position myself in between them with both of them kissing over me. Our hands are roaming all over the place as I have one on one girl's tits and the other on the other's ass. Random hands that don't belong to me are grabbing my crotch. This is pretty fucking awesome. Their pants come off first as they start rubbing each other's clits. HBNewApt moves to take my pants off, and at that point everything just came off at once, and we're off to the fucking races. Now, when I brought these girls together, I knew them both fairly well. They're both cool chicks and they're both pretty hot, like HB8-8.5 range. I was hoping they'd be into each other and hook up a bit. I didn't want them to feel PAGE:
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timid or pressured around one another. I would have been content for them to just fool around a little. Well, these girls fucking RAVAGED each other. Holy carpet-munching Batman! Before I even knew what was happening they were involved in all sorts of sucking, rubbing and screaming. Like, I've been told by numerous girls that I eat a good pussy and know my way around a vagina, but I watched what they were doing and it looked like Klingon sign language down there. And whatever it was, it worked. They were screaming and moaning like fucking banshees. So what did I do? Is this where I bum rush in and pound one girl in the ass and fist the other while doing bench presses? No... Actually, in all honestly, I had no clue what to do with myself. It's one thing to see a porno, it's another to have it happening right in front of you. I was overwhelmed, bewildered, and a little bit intimidated. On top of that, they were so busy devouring each other's vaginas that I couldn't even butt in. It was a weird feeling of exhilaration and frustration. I actually lost my erection. My immersion was nothing. I was totally in my head, anxious, and annoyed. At one point I felt like I could have left and gotten a sandwich and they wouldn't have noticed. I took their hands and made them give me handjobs, but they were so pre-occupied with each other that they half-assed it. I started to freak out a little. Here I am, the craziest sexual experience of my life, an experience I've pursued for months, and what am I? A spectator with his dick in his hand... literally. Finally, after about 15 minutes and probably like three orgasms, my primary noticed my predicament. She paid some more attention to me and freed up HBOldSkool's vagina, so I could play with it. My girl started going down on me, and after a minute I began to relax and get into the moment again. The erection came back and the dark clouds of my mind parted for the light of pure sexual glory. HBOldSkool joined HBNewApt on my cock. In case you don't know, two girls blowing you at once is pretty awesome. Re-energized like the fucking machine I am, I took control. I pulled HBOldSkool off. I told HBNewApt to ride my dick and for HBOldSkool to sit on my face and make out with her. TRIANGLE OF LOVE BABY! They went for awhile and then they both stopped, got up... and switched places! TRIANGLE OF LOVE STRIKES BACK BABY! Now, that my fantasy was fulfilled, time to fulfill my girl's (she had told me what she wanted to do prior). PAGE:
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I told HBOldSkool to lay down, and HBNewApt immediately went down on her, sticking her ass in the air, knowing what was coming. I started nailing her from behind and shoving her head into HBOldSkool's pussy. Some sights are too beautiful for words. So I finish, and at this point we've been going at this stuff for like 45 minutes. Are they done? No, of course not. I sit and smoke a cigarette as I watch them continue to fondle, mangle and grope the deepest and darkest parts of each other's bodies. More moans, more orgasms, where's the ashtray? A scream, a spank, and a strong desire for a ham sandwich. This is unreal. What the fuck? Finally, they wrap it up and we lay in bed, exhausted and satisfied. We're all starving, so HBNewApt takes us into the kitchen and makes us all some eggs. The look of her roommate in the living room was pretty priceless, as it was obvious he heard everything, "Wait, TWO GIRLS just walked out of there?" We scarf the eggs up and we go to bed. Wait, HBNewApt is fingering HBOldSkool again. Oh Jesus, are you kidding me? AGAIN?!? I get in on the action some this time, by fingering my girl while she goes down on HBOldSkool for like the 10th time. They both get off. I tried to get it up again, but it was almost 5AM at this point, and I was drunk, exhausted and completely spent so it was a no-go. I fell asleep with two naked girls laying on my chest, arm around each. That in itself felt surreal, but the whole night was fucking crazy. I can think of about 20 words to describe it, and they're all true yet insufficient: chaotic, amazing, stressful, overwhelming, insane, hardcore, ridiculous, fun, weird, surreal -- they all work. In all, it's two days later and it still doesn't feel like it happened. It feels like it was a dream that all three of us shared and can't stop talking about. I don't know where to go from here. When I came into PUA, I had a mental checklist of things I wanted to accomplish, and now this is it. I've done them all. Where do I go from here? It's a strange feeling. To learn more about Entropy check out www.practicalpickup.com Threesome Breakdown:
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Much like there is more than one way to skin a cat, there is more than one way to set up a threesome. There are also many different types of t hr eesomes.Let ’ sbr eakt hem downi nt ot hr eecat egor i es: Bringing them together: This refers to the type of threesome where you have two girls you are already sleeping with and you bring them together. With these kinds of threesomes, the most important thing is establishing who the primary girl is. There can be no confusion over this. One girl is the guest star and the other is the lead actress. You also have to make sure that you lead this situation the entire way through as opposed to letting the girls make the decisions. Remember that as a man it is ALWAYS your job to lead! Tandem Hunting: Tandem hunting refers to any threesome where you and your primary collaboratively bring a third girl in. This could take the form of the two of you going to a bar and pick some random girl up, or it could take the form of the two of you asking various friends, or even placing a personal ad. Tandem hunting both makes things easier and harder. It makes things easier because girls are better at attracting girls than guys. That ’ saf act ,nomat t erhow goodyourgamei s.Sot heat t r act i onphasef or tandem hunting will be super easy. It also makes handling logistics much easier. This is because girls will feel much safer going home with a couple than with a guy only. Girls also read social cues better and know when to escalate and when to extract. The girl should always be leading the pick-up. But you have to lead the seduction. The problems with tandem hunting occur in the form of cold feet and jealousy. Many women will agree intellectually to the idea of going out and picking up a girl together. However when it comes time to actually go out and do it they have a sudden change of mi nd.That ’ sok. The worst possible thing that you can do in these situations is pressure the girl. Instead just drop it for the night and bring it up again later. You always want to keep the focus of the threesome on her pleasure as opposed to your own. The other problem is jealousy. Girls are going to get jealous when they see you talking to, flirting with and escalating on other girls.
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That ’ swhyi t ’ skeyt hataf t eryouopent hesett hegi r ldoesal lt hegami ng. You are the passenger in the interaction. You still need to be able to add value to the group and not lower your own value, but the less you game the better tandem hunting will go.
COLD APPROACH By far the hardest way to have a threesome is to go out alone and try to pi ckupt wowomenatt hesamet i me.I t ’ snoti mpossi bl ebuti tmakes things a l othar derasyouwon’ thaveasmuchcompl i anceorval uei nt hegi r l seyes. You also will be outnumbered. There are two distinct schools of thought on the cold approach threesome. The first adheres to the idea that as with any other type of threesome you need to pick a primary first. So you would approach one group of people and somewhere in the comfort phase of the i nt er act i onsuggestt ot hegi r lyou’ vemett hei deaoft aki nganot hergi r lhome with you. This is risky for a couple reasons. First it has to be on enough that she is ready to go home with you herself. Do this too early and it can come off like a joke. Too late and it can ruin an otherwise perfectly good pull. The second school of thought involves approaching a group of two girls and gaming both of them. This way is easier if simply because you only have to do one approach. However there are a variety of issues due to jealousy, keeping both girls attracted, logistics etc. The thing to take away from cold approach threesomes is that they can happen.
More In-Venue Lays: What are In Venue Lays? In venue lays are all about getting the girl to get sexual with you inside the venue. Sometimes this will happen in bathroom, sometimes it will happen in cars, sometimes parking lots . IVLs are a very advanced thing, but I wanted to include them in this book to show you guys what is possible.
BANGED MODEL IN CLUB BATHROOM: BRAD P
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I went out in low state again last night. Some nights I sit in my house procrastinating. I want to go out, but I don't want to go out. It's really cold and windy in NY. I maybe think I'll call a fuck buddy and have her come over. Or I need a night off because I've had sex every night this week....(All kinds of nonproductive self talk.) Then I go on www.fastseduction.com and that's cool but you can sit there all day and get nothing else done if you're not careful. So I decide I will go out and do some networking. Not out to game really, but in the back of my mind I KNOW I'm going to. How can I not? It's just in me now. So I leave the house around 1am. It is freezing ass cold and super windy as I ride my skateboard 15 blocks to the subway. And I wait, and wait, and wait for the train. I text a fuck buddy on the train, she can't hang, she's out on a date. I get to the city at like 2am. There are party people everywhere. I see all the drunk club girls. They're all happy and silly, and the guys are vibing with them. I'm so not in that world right now. I find the rock venue I was on the way to, go in and just kind of stand there. I go out alone all the time, so even in low state I have absolutely no qualms about standing by myself at a bar. I will stand tall and emanate utter coolness at all times. This time I stood in the middle of the dance floor and just looked around. People are dancing all around me and I'm just standing there. I know it sounds weird but it wasn't. Nothing is ever weird if you're comfortable with yourself. This is a key point. You have to learn to be comfortable standing by yourself in a bar. So many guys get uncomfortable and show it in their body language. They act like they are out of place, nervous and uncomfortable. You must act like you are always the coolest person in the club. Then I see people I know. Kids I used to work with when I was a social worker are all grown up now and they're out drinking. So I hang with them, why the hell not. Then I see this chick my friend used to date, and it's weird because my ex-girlfriends always dig him and his ex-girlfriends always dig me. Butwedon' tgi veaf uck,wedon' tbangeachot her ’ sexes,butwe' r ebot h aware the chicks want to. So this girl is all flirty with me and I tell her a story of how I was banging one of her friends and the girl started bleeding all over and got embarrassed PAGE:
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and never talked to me again. She says "You must have a huge dick, can I see it? I've heard about it." So I'm like sure, we're friends why not. But she wants to see it hard, so I end up in a dark corner of this place, whacking off and playing with her tits a little bit. It sounds weird I know, but like I said not many things are really weird to me anymore. It was almost not sexual because we both knew we could never ever fuck. So we carried on a totally normal conversation while I whacked it. Then she took a look, made a few comments, and that was that. We went back to whatever else we were talking about. It was no big deal. Weird stuff happens in the field Then I noticed I was fucking horny from that. I told her and she said maybe I can fuck one of her friends. I told her maybe, we'll see. But I had little interest ‘ causeI hate that whole thing where someone is trying to hook you up. It's so awkward. I can hook myself up much better. But I have to say that whacking off and playing with boobs was a huge state builder for me. Seeing some friends was nice too, got me feeling more social. So I decide to move on to a dance party. I go to this party a few times a month where everyone dances in their underwear. It's kind of like a theme party I guess. It a very sexually free environment, that's for sure. It's hard to game for outsiders because it's so loud. I see dudes trying to game there and they get shut down like crazy. But I have some status there because I know the DJ. So girls will open me and I get some peer group advantage, as well because I know some people there. This is a great point. Make sure that you are meeting the high status people in the places you go out to. The more you are seen hanging with high status guys and girls, the higher people will assume your status is. In this case I was still looking to just hang with friends and not game. So that's what I did. But I did get introduced to this tall model chick. I'm not talking model like runway/cosmo, I'm talking about suicide girl naked model type. I didn't know who she was, I just kind of talked to her for a few minutes. I was a bit cocky with her and she got creeped out. This dork was getting all protective of her too. I think he was part of her close peer group. I saw she was creeped and I just stopped talking to her. But I didn't walk away, I stood PAGE:
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right there and just turned away a little. Again, no loss of comfort for me... If she's creeped out that's her problem not mine. I'm not even all that interested in her anyway. Tip: A great i nsi ghti nt oBr ad’ st hi nki ng.“ I fshe’ scr eepedoutt hat ’ sher pr obl em notmi ne. ”Thi si st hegi r lt hatBr adevent ual l ycl osesi nt he bathroom. Another example of a set that starts off badly that Brad turns around. Remembert her ei sNO sucht hi ngast heper f ectpi ckup.I tdoesn’ texi stso stop worrying about doing everything right. All of the best sets will have some mistakes in them. I go about my business. This blond is touching me really sexually. She's leading me towards the bathroom. She asks if I got to go too. I say yeah, she says let's wait on line together so we can get to know each other better. Now I know this could easily be her way of saying "come into the bathroom and fuck me please." On line she starts asking interview style questions like where I'm from etc. I was kinda thrown by that actually, but I went with it. I thought at the time it was some kind of anti-slut rationalization like "if I know wher ehe' sf r om t heni t ’ s ok to fuck him in the bathroom." So I just acted normal. Then the bathroom became available and I said "Hey did you ever dance in the bathroom?" ‘ Cause we were dancing on line. She said "No, you stay out." So I misread that one, but it’ s ok there was no fallout from it. Dancing in the bathroom sounded innocent enough. I'd rather misread it that way than the opposite- which would be me not picking up on her wanting to fuck me then losing out. This blond was not worth any more effort. Her face was gorgeous, but she had a gut. And I'm more into body than face most of the time anyway. Anot herexampl eofBr ad’ s“ Bl ow meorbl ow meout ! ”phi l osophy.Most guys would not have tried to get in the bathroom with the girl. Brad does and event houghi tdoesn’ twork out for him, he makes the move. Game is all abouti mpl ement i ngt her i ghthabi t s.I t ’ sagr eathabi tt ot r yt osexual l y escalate girls as soon as they are showing signs of attraction. So I ditched that chick. But I think the model girl may have been watching it all go down, how the blond was all over me. It may have de-creepified her. Social proof is a wonderful thing.
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OK a little background here, a bunch of these girls are all on this porno website. It's basically a knock off of suicide girls. Tattoos, piercings, hair dye, you get the picture. The way they market this site is to send these chicks out to party in bars and clubs. They want all the dudes to get crushes and pay to see these chicks get naked on the Internet. So these chicks all end up being party girlfriends with each other. The ringleader is this obnoxious chick. This girl is seriously not even that hot and she acts like she's the coolest ever cause she's a hustler model. She's kinda short and squat, but she's got a certain energy and confidence. She masters every social situation, a true alpha female. Some people just buy into her so much. Since she's in Hustler magazine she always shows me the pictures (validation seeking). I made out with her months ago in like 10 minutes just to prove a point that I was way cooler than her. Now I'm in the process of banging all of her friends one by one. The model chick I picked up last week was her roommate. The obnoxious chick walked in on me eating this girl's pussy a few days ago, but she was so cool about it. She yelled "Thank you for going down on my roommate!"... So now we seem to kind of like each other. I think we've reached an understanding. I think she can see I have a talent and she wants to see how well I do. So anyway, the obnoxious chick walks into the place and she's standing on a bench of course surveying and being the coolest in the place. She sees me and starts waving. I go talk to her. All of these girls are huge suckers for the “ whatever”song. They cannot get enough of it. They're all trying to learn it, learning it wrong, I have to correct them, then shoot them down again with a new whatever song. They keep rehashing the first time I did. They're like "OMG, remember when we met and you sang the song... (all these small details)." Little did I know the model chick and the obnoxious chick are best friends; they're both in the porno site and they're strippers at the same place too! But they just got fired tonight because of some wacky stripper drama that I won't get into here. Now I have more social proof ‘ causeall the chicks are doing “ whatever”songs with me. My shirt says "Whatever." I am like MR. WHATEVER 2006.
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Now all the sudden the model chick wants to talk to me again. She comes over and shows me some cool new handshakes. We start vibing and I start using the attract material.
FEMALE TRUISM/COLD READ: “ Icant el lj ustbyt hewayyou' r est andi ngt her et hatyouar et heki ndof girl who goes on a lot of dates but has trouble finding someone you actually are interested in. Then when you do find that person, you usually lose interest ver yqui ckl y. ” Of course she says, "Yeah how'd you know, that's amazing." I drop a bunch of shocker lines and cocky/funny stuff. Then she's telling me she's a model and I go into a routine I call "Conversion chart." I lead into a whole stack of model related material. I have a specific attraction stack for ballet dancers, and I'm putting one together for models right now.
BRAD P’ S CONVERSION CHART ROUTINE: Br a dP: “ Ohy ouare a model? Awesome! ” I have this whole conversion chart that I came up with for girls that are actresses and stuff like that - soher e’ st hedeal .Gi r l swhosayt heyar ean actress are usually waitresses. Girls who say they're a model are usually a hostess. A girl who claims to be a waitress is usually a stripper. Girls who say they are a stripper are usually a prostitute. So that's my chart. Cool huh? Actress = waitress Model = Hostess Waitress = stripper Stripper = prostitute
Br a dP: “ What restaurant did you say you work at?" I had to change it a bit, because I didn't want her to say she's a stripper and then I have to tell her she's a prostitute. That would NOT work. So I took that part out. The conversion chart was the clincher. It led into this exchange.
Girl: "No I'm not a waitress. I'm on this website www.blahblah.com"
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Brad P: "I've never heard of that website in my life." Girl: "Yeah, I really am. And I was a stripper too, until tonight." Brad P: "C'mon just tell what restaurant you work at." Girl: (After much resistance and insisting she's a model) OK I was working at Bennigans, until just last month. Brad P: "Aha! I knew it!" Now things are heating up, physical escalation is going like crazy, and she's got that crazy attracted look in her eye. But I keep using attract routines on her anyway. I drop my secret sex toys routine, obvious BS routines, tons of cocky stuff. Then she tells me she thinks I'm full of shit. Now I've retrained so much self talk that my mind automatically changes things like that into a compliment sometimes in loud environments like this one. I thought she said "You're the shit." So I told her yeah, I know I'm the shit. She says NO YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT! I tell her you can say that all you want but you fucking love it. You are so into me. Brad has an interesting philosophy on congruence tests. Instead of worrying about coming up with specific answers for tests, he suggest that you j ustwat er pr oofyourr eal i t yunt i lyoucan’ tevenseet het est sanymor e.This is an example of how automatic this stuff has become for him. Now we start making out, but I really don't even care how far it goes. I keep stopping her and telling her BAD GIRL! NAUGHTY GIRL! Then I pump with more attraction stuff. I know it sounds like there's no reason to be running attraction routines here, but just stay with me here. This is not a girl who needs comfort to fuck someone. She needs attraction and confusion. It is vitally important that you start to stereotype girls as you are interacting with them. The more you can figure out what type of girl she is, the easier it will be to figure out what she needs to move to the next phase of t hei nt er act i on.Her eBr adhasmadeanassessmentt hathedoesn’ tneed comfort to sleep with this girl. She asks me what the “ Whatever”shirt is about. I tell her it's a really deep concept and maybe if we get to know each other someday I'll tell you the whole thing. If you're smart. She's badgering me about it. I tell her it's probably over her head, but just don't worry about it. MORE MAKING OUT PAGE:
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A girl sees a guy walking through the club with a skateboard. She says "What kind of a moron brings a skateboard to a club." I say "Yeah, what a fucking asshole!" Then I say "Come here, wanna see my skateboard." It actually came out all porno-style "Wanna see my... uh... skateboard?" She says "NO WAY, you don't actually have one here." I drag her into the back where I had my skateboard. Actually I was trying to isolate further and fuck this girl. But there were too many people back there. She says "No, that's not yours, you just saw it there." We leave and she's still not sure whether it's mine or not. I never want them to be too sure of anything. Anything could be a joke. MORE MAKING OUT She says I'm probably as conceded as she is and I agree. I go serious for a moment and tell her it's good to be confident but it's not trendy ‘ causeall these rock bands sing about being a loser and having no clue with girls, like Blink 182. She agrees. I say "Look around. We're the coolest people in here without a doubt. I just get sick of people staring at me sometimes for that. I thought if I sat here with you maybe they'd look at you and not me, but it's not working." MORE MAKING OUT This is a great whole room destroying routine. If you can get the girl to agree that the two of you are the coolest people in the place. Half of your work is done. Then I go into this new thing I'm working on where I speak as if I'm coming from the perspective of a REALLY good looking guy. Like a male model. The theory here is you have to show these really hot girls you're in a similar reality. But it's hard if you're not super good looking. I'd say I'm average or slightly above, but not like a male model. However, being "good looking" is a perception, not a reality. And perceptions can be changed. In this case I'm in a very dark room. I know my body language is super tight. My style and clothing are fucking sexy. This girl is a little drunk. I have status and social proof.
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She's attracted to me. I can start talking like I'm absolutely gorgeous (subcommunicating of course) and it will probably fly. Not bragging, actually being humble. But being humble the way a great looking guy would be humble. Does that make sense? This technique is still in development, so I can't explain it that well yet. Here's how it took shape in this caseBradP: "So if a guy on the train says you look like a model and he wants to take your picture, it's not a good move right? It's probably just someone that wants to fuck you or get $800 for a portfolio shot. Right?" Girl: "Right, it's a bad move. I have that happen like every day, jackasses on the train all the time. When I was younger it was these guys in the mall. I was #15 finalist on America's top model (or some shit) and all these people wanted to take my picture. But I didn't do it because you know they always want something in return."
BradP: "Yeah, I think I know what they want in return." Girl: "See what you should do is go to X modeling agency this Tuesday for the open call, you'll do great." BradP: "Nah, I don't think I really look like a model." Girl:"Sure you do. You're tall. You're fucking gorgeous. You should do it." Brad P: "I don't know, maybe if it was a lot of money I'd do it. I think it might have been just some gay guy who wants to fuck me, ya know." Notice I did not TELL this girl that a guy on the train came up to me and wanted me to model; she just assumed it because I posed it as a hypothetical question. She filled in the blanks because she was SO attracted to me. Hence I must be SO attractive. I didn't come right out with it, but later in the conversation I did elude to the fact that it actually happened, after she was sold on me being the hottest thing ever. That's sub- communication. It's subtle, and it leads to massive interest in this case. I will explain this one better when I have it worked out more if that's not making sense. Then we make out some more and I keep stopping her. I get a bit aggressive with her too. Pull her hair, bite her neck. Just to let her know that I'm a crazy fuck and I will tear her up. But I still really don't care if I bang this girl. She decides to go for broke. How do you like this one??? Girl: "I don't mean for this to sound slutty or anything, but maybe you could come into the bathroom with me, just for like 10 minutes??"
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When girls escalate like this, they key i st oactl i kei t ’ snor mal ;don’ tever get too exci t edwheni t ’ sobvi oust hatsexi sgoing to happen. Remember, sex is normal and natural. I play it cool and non-judgmental.
BP: "Hmmm. Yeah we can do that." The key here is to not act like you just won the lottery. Act like its normal! Then I almost fucked up. I'm thinking I wanna get this girl in the rotation; I'm way ahead of myself.
BP: "Ok just one thing, I wanna take your number down...." I realize that's a fuck up. She wants to fuck, I'm thinking about a fucking phone number???? hellooooo??? Earth to Brad P!!! Without breaking stride I fix the fuck up.
BP: "Ok just one thing, I wanna take your number down .......afterwards, if you're any good." OK almost blew it right there. But I fixed it. Phew! We start walking upstairs to the bathroom. She asks if I "have something for that" (aka condom). I say yes. I know I have my very last one in my wallet. Side note on the logistics of bathroom club fucking. In NYC its hard ‘ cause there's always a line. In this case, there's three bathrooms upstairs and the upstairs room is closed because its 4:15. We can still sneak in though. There's not really anyone in there, no music on, but you have to walk through there to get out. I've been having a lot of problems getting my bathroom fuck on in NY ‘ causeof this situation with long lines. Here's the way to do it- wait till the end of the night. I don't know why I didn't think of that earlier. When everyone is almost gone it's the best time. Remaining girls are pretty horny at that time anyway. Almost everyone is gone... EXCEPT the obnoxious chick and her crew! She CAN cock-block me. I did just nail her roommate and this is her best friend I'm about to plow. She calls the model chick over and they're talking, but the model chick is in a rush to get with me. They're talking about mundane logistical party girl shit. PAGE:
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"Where are my keys? Where's my phone!" Shit like that. I'm just waiting in the bathroom hallway. I don't want to end up in a conversation with the obnoxious chick! The model chick breaks free. We get into the bathroom and it's ON! I twoul dn’ tbe a Brad P report without having to get around some cock blocks The place is fucking filthy!! That mysterious dirty water is all over the floor. The toilet seat is nasty. We start the RAPID escalation. I have her blow me but she's half-assing it. She takes a good hard look at my cock. You know they train girls to inspect your cock for sores these days? I saw it on Dr. Ruth. That's what she was doing. HeHe! ..Barely any head, she just kind of spits on it. So I reach for the pussy and whack it to get hard. She wants me to sit on the seat and she'll get on top of me, but I tell her I'm gonna fuck her standing up ‘ causeshe's tall enough. I get behind her and start fucking away. I'm like 4 minutes in when there's a loud knock on the door. It's the obnoxious chick. She's yelling and trying to have a full on conversation, while we fuck about where's the keys and purses and shit. I can't believe this. It's the 2nd time this week she interrupted me!! But I locked the door. The obnoxious chick: "I don't care what's going on in there; just give me your keys!" She pushes the door so hard it flies open. I pull out and this girl is grabbing the purse and she takes a quick glance at my cock. Condom is all half slid off ‘ causein the commotion I blew a load! Isn't it interesting that whenever you're getting interrupted, your body responds by blowing a load? That's what happens to me anyway. The interruption gets me slightly nervous and freaked out. And I bust right away. I guessi t snat ur e’ swayofmaki ngsur e fertilization occurs. The obnoxious chick leaves us alone and the girl wants to get back to it. I tell her I blew a load, but to just hang out another minute and I'll make her come for sure. I start fingering. She has her back up against the wall and she is playing with her own clit like crazy. She says "can you use another finger?" So I put in my ring finger instead of the middle (duh). She says, "no two fingers." Ha, Ha, Ha! So I have two fingers in and she's asking for another. So I put my pinky in. I have a cut/hangnail thing going on with my index finger so I can't use that.
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This girl’ s is asking for more and more fingers, I'm thinking she might ask to be fisted, but she doesn't. My friend who's a sick natural (The Pheromone Kid) fists girls all the time. He's in my head saying 'FIST HER!" Ha Ha, like Mortal Combat, "Finish her!" But I just stay with three fingers and she comes after a few minutes. Now for the wrap up, I have to say this girl is well versed in the protocols of one night stand and bathroom fucking. She's kind of surprised I even bother talking to her afterwards. She says that it was nice that I made her come too. It was "gentleman-like." I say "Hey, that's just about having morals. You got to make the girl come, even if it is a bathroom." I hang with her for a few minutes. I take her number. She says "You don't have to if you don't want to." She says "You don't have to be nice to me, you can go if you want." I tell her I'm not in a rush. I was being nice to her at that point, because I just felt like it. I get in a really good mood after sex. And she was too. We high-fived. She can't find her friends so I stayed with her to look. She's totally getting turned off by me being gentleman-like. But, I really don't care. I just fucked this girl, why do I need to pump attraction anymore? I'll be nice if I fucking feel like it. I bet she was just scared I would get all needy and act like we're going out. Some guys probably do that after a bathroom fuck. But, we found her other friends. These girls are so casual about talking about sex. She says to them "yeah it was really good" as I hover outside their social circle. Also, the obnoxious chick tells her after the fact that I've been banging the roommate. So the model chick calls me on it. "I just found out you did one of my friends the other day." Now, this is great because with these kind of girls you need scumbag appeal. I tell her "Yeah I did, so what?" I may work a threesome with this crew of girls. I take off and head home. I'm thinking maybe I really should just bang every chick the obnoxious chick hangs out with. Maybe I should bang all the girls on that website. I looked at it when I got home and there's like 50 girls. That will take a while.
SOME ANALYSIS
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Poor state at the beginning of the night has not been hurting me. My game just carries me as the night goes on. This fuck was easy because I had peer group and status. I think I've written 20 or so lay reports on here since September and I usually get ass purely off cold approaches, because it's more educational to me. I think maybe I will be more open minded to non-cold-approach stuff because it is educational in its own way. I did get to work on my new stuff like the good looking guy routine. I guess I just like doing it the old fashion way. Cold approach lays really test your frame and skill set more I think. Peer group/status related lays I think you will generally end up with some easier lays and some more high quality girls. Going out late has been cool. I've been rolling into parties at 2am all the time and banging a girl usually by 4 or 5am. This girl I'd say it took about an hour or so from meet to fuck. But there was only about 30 minutes of interaction, the rest of the time was when she was creeped and I was flirting with the blond. I'm developing lots of new stuff right now. More to come!
JIZZ SHOE BRAD: BRAD P The other night I was out with a few friends and I executed a picture perfect bathroom pull, in the style of The Pheromone Kid Got into some other interesting situations as well. The Pheremone Kid is a natural that routinely seduces women in public restrooms in 5-10 minutes. You can check out his interview with Brad at www.BradPpresents.com The bar I was at was a gay bar, a few of my friends are gay and some are straight as well. So I usually end up in a gay bar a few times a year with these folks. There are always a few good straight girls in gay bars, and the atmosphere is more sexually liberal than other bars, so you get less anti slut resistance. There's also less bitchy girls because the chicks aren't getting hit on by dorks
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all night long. These days having a few gay friends gets you coolness points for girls and guys. It's just so trendy to be gay. I come in with friends and two new chicks, college girls, who I'm starting to game. I'm getting some good attraction off them using my usual ball busting shit. These college girls are ready to venue change 15 minutes in and go over to the loud college bar. I'm about to leave with them, but then I realize the place I'm at is easier to work. It's quieter, easier peer groups, and I have the extra coolness of having gay friends. So I decide to stay at the gay bar. I see a chick who waitresses at the strip club we were at the night before. Chat with her a bit about how she's at a bar on her night off, which means she's obviously an alcoholic. As I'm talking to her, the 2 girls next to her approach me with "Hey do you like this video"- some Madonna video. I talk with them a bit and I start bouncing back and forth between the 2 groups. Sometimes it's good to merge them together, but in this case I decided it's better to have them compete for a while, then I merged them. This is building social proof, pre-sel ect i onandj eal ousyi nt ot heset .I t ’ s always a good idea to talk to girls in front of other girls. The girls gave a cold greeting to each other, and they're competitive already. This amount of social proof really started the set off in the right direction. I touched both girls quite a bit and we started talking about all sorts of sexual topics. Dildos, masturbation, deepspot/g-spot, stuff like that. You have to be careful about how you handle sexual topics like this. If the girl brings them up too early on, it can be a test. However if you bring them up and the girls are interested in talking about them, keep escalating the interaction. Here the girls are obviously into it. After about 15 minutes of that I told the girls to come into the bathroom with me. They didn't freak but they didn't take me up on it either. It was because there was 2 of them. I've pulled this off before with 2 girls, but this time they didn't go for it. So while one of them was distracted talking to my friend, I pulled the other girl by the hand and into the bathroom we went.
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Guys often spend too much time over-thinking things like how to get girls into the bathroom. As Brad demonstrates here sometimes to get girls into the bathroom, all you have to do is try for it. Let me tell you, from there it was just awesome. I do a pretty fair amount of bathroom sex, and I can tell you it has its drawbacks- people walking in and out, no privacy. The stalls don't have a lock, sometimes the stall doesn't even have a door!! In this case it was the perfect set up. The ladies room had a few fully closed off toilet rooms. So no one would be knocking, because there were others available. It was almost like having my own little hotel room. Leave it to the gay people to get bathroom sex perfected. We get in there and I have the girl watching me whack it, three minutes in she just couldn't take it anymore and she started blowing me. Wow she was so into it. She was moaning and squinting her eyes. I started dirty talking her "yeah that's a good girl, suck that cock." I held her head back by the hair and blew a load right into her mouth. Man there's just something amazing about meeting a 19 year old girl and then 20 minutes later you're watching streams of semen flying into her mouth. She loved it! But she didn't swallow, she was dripping it all over her and little did I know she dripped a big old pile of jizz on my shoe. She started cleaning up and pulling up her pants (I had been fingering her too). I told her“ Notsof ast . . .I haveaspeci alt r eatf oryou. ”I fingered her from behind for a bit. Then I fingered her from the front hard in her g- spot and had her rub her own clit. After about 4 minutes of that she started squirting all over the place. Damn! It was her first time squirting and she didn't really know what was going on. We cleaned up and I told her we'll go out separate so no one would know what happened. In a situation like this it is always extremely important that the girl does not get caught! We cannot have her looking like a slut or feeling bad in any way. She went out and rejoined her friend, but she had jizz on her and the friend noticed it. It was a sweater she had borrowed from the friend, and there were a few drops on it. OOPS!
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To make matters worse, I was walking around the whole place with jizz on my left shoe. I had no idea. I was walking around talking to people like everything was totally normal. I was talking to this British guy when I noticed, and I quickly put my foot under the table. Then I wrapped up the conversation and made a bee-line for the bathroom to wash off my shoe. I checked back in with the girl after that and she was having a small case of buyer's remorse. She said "Hey I didn't want you to think I'm a slut." I told her "I think that you're amazing for having that adventure with me and you shouldn't worry about that. I'd love to have a whole night in a bed with you. Now that would be hot." She agreed and we were going meet up later. I already had her number. She ended up telling the friend how I made her squirt for the first time and at that point it looked like a threesome was brewing. But the friend was kind of ADD, and I got distracted with other girls. A few of my friends caught on to what had happen and they were so amazed that they started asking me to do some approaches so they could watch. This one girl wanted to be my wing woman, and she would just drag chicks over to me and say "This is Brad, he's the hottest guy here." The chicks would look at me all shy and shit. One was really hot, but she had a boyfriend so I nixed her . I started working these two hippie chicks. They were throwing MASSIVE indicators of interest like "Wow you're amazing, can we go on a date?" I know this sounds crazy, but here's the deal... They were on happy-happy drugs. They loved everything in life. I flirted with them for a bit, but I was planning on leaving for a threesome with the other girls. But I waited too long and lost track of them. They left without me. They were over matched by the high energy of the hippie chicks, so they didn't even try to compete or say good bye. They were totally intimidated. Here's something funny. I took both their numbers before the bathroom festivities. Then later when I tried to call, one was a home number and one was a wacky beeping signal. There was actually no way we could meet up, neither one gave me their cell phone number. WTF? The moral of the story is that you're better off escalating and getting a blowjob right away if possible. Sometimes that's a better plan than venue changing and going for the same day pull. PAGE:
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I tried calling them, but when it didn't work I decided to keep working the hippie chicks. They were asking me to come home with them and do drugs, but I don't do drugs. I made up for it by saying I have the munchies really bad. So we went to their place a few blocks away. They were throwing truly grandiose indicators of interest like "This is the best night of my LIFE! I can't believe we met you!" I mirrored the indicators of interest back. But I knew they were way fucked up so I didn't read too much into it. Back at their place, I played the guitar and the 2 girls sang jazz songs. It was a blast. One of the girls walked in on me taking a pee and watched. She said "Hey open the door, let me watch." That was funny. I had both of them on the couch and we were cuddling like crazy. Then all of the sudden the mood changed completely. They got sleepy and bitchy in less than 10 seconds. They gave each other that funny look, had a bathroom meeting, and then came and said "Uh yeah, we got to walk you out." For a second I thought maybe I did something wrong, but then I realized they were crashing from the drugs. I don't know what they were on, but whatever it was they were crashing hard from it ... maybe ecstasy? I was kind of annoyed, but I didn't fight it. I left with barely a word. three minutes later I realized it was an awesome night. I dropped a load on a chick in the gay bar, had a cool jam session with some hippie chicks, I walked around with jizz on my shoe and didn't slip on anything. This is the risk you run anytime you deal with chicks who use drugs. It can go really good or really bad. I've had some of the best lays and even threesomes when the chicks are in this party/druggie vibe. But other times it can just blow up in your face. Would I do it again? Of course! But I would have made sure I didn't lose the other two girls. OK now don't everyone start running for the gay bar at once. You really should go with gay friends or it's just weird to pick up girls at a gay bar. But if you have the gay friends and you go, it's a secret society. A normal chump would be too homophobic to be around gay people, so you get a bit of higher value just by being there and being accepted. Tol ear nmor eaboutBr adP’ sbat hr oom pul l scheckouthi si nt er vi ew wi t h“ The Pher emoneKi d”youcanf i ndi tatwww.bradppresents.com
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LR: SNL BDSM IN A BATHROOM: DOC HOLLIDAY Fuck yeah! I have three acronyms in the title of this report! I go to a party on Friday night. I get there and like usual it hasn't really picked up yet. I have a habit of showing up early. I flirt with the girl at the door and leave to go buy a pack of cigarettes. Fast forward 20 minutes I come back and there's a girl hanging up her coat. We can call her HB: Butterfly. I make eye contact with her and smile.
Doc: How's it going? Butterfly: -shrugs- Blah -She really said blah, this is not code for illusionary feedbackDoc: Wow, that good huh? Butterfly: Yeah, I rode my bike here and I'm tired now. I just want to point out how fucking hippie the city that I live in is. This girl rode her bike to a party at 11pm because it's the environmentally friendly thing to do. I talk to her for another couple minutes and move on. I talk to one of the guys who lives at the house and he introduces me to another guy who is DJing later on. They're both really cool guys, but dudes aren't my mission. What the fuck am I talking about I never have a mission. I get a text message from El Topo and sit down on a table to reply to it. I look up after finishing the text and there's a really cute girl looking in my direction. She's about 5'4", 120lbs, girl next door look, and has nothing about her that would give me any indication as to what I was getting myself into. We can call her HB: BDSM. I smile at her and wave her over.
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Doc: Oh cool, I'm really bad with names, and probably won't remember your name after you tell me what it is again. BDSM: Haha, I'm _______ Doc: I'm _______ At this point our heads are right next to a sub woofer and I move her to a quieter corner. I ask her what she does and then go into some of my grounding stuff. HB: Butterfly walks over and reopens me. BDSM and Butterfly are fighting for my attention at this point and I make a decision as to who I want to pursue. Jealousy and competition lead to fast lays. The quickest lays happen when two or three girls are fighting over you and one decides to fuck you to make sure she wins. BDSM is the better looking of the two but I have no idea how she got there and just looks so sweet and innocent. Butterfly is a low 7, looks like she wants to fuck, and rode her bike here. I forgot to ask if she had pegs... I'm tempted to go for butterfly just because of how hilarious the LR would be. She could give me a ride on her handlebars back to my house to smoke hookah and after I fucked her so hard she couldn't walk she'd have to pedal home. Then I step back into reality and realize how much hotter and cooler BDSM is. I block Butterfly off with my body language and move BDSM to get drinks. She doesn't like beer, there is only tequila and Goldschläger, and the only mixers are Red Bull or Tonic. She grabs a Red Bull and pours it and Goldschläger into a cup... Eew!. She asks if I remember her name and through some act of faith I do. I ask her mine and she gets it wrong. I tell her we're through and body rock away from her. She grabs me and pulls me back in. I tell her I'm going to test her again in 10 minutes and she asks what happens if she gets it wrong in a seductive voice. I tell she needs to stop talking that way or I'll be forced to do dirty things to her. She bites her lip and smiles. I pull her in and we make out. She plays with my lip ring a little too much and apologizes and says she likes metal and has an oral fixation.
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I'm not expecting any of this from this girl. She looks about 5 years younger than she actually is and is seriously one of the most innocent looking women I've ever met. The dichotomy of it is really hot. I tell her I won't tell her about any of my other piercings that can go in her mouth... Somehow after about 30 seconds she gets it out of me. I move her upstairs and some random gay guy comes up and starts hitting on me. I'm friendly but blow him off and we sit down on a couch.
Doc: That guy wanted to take me home BDSM: That seems to be the theme tonight. (We make out some more and I go the pull.) Doc: Let's go for a walk BDSM: Not yet We keep making out and some Russian guy who she knows comes over and sits down. They talk real quick, gives him a key chain, and she kisses him as he leaves. Not really making out but there was obviously something there.
BDSM: So, I have to tell you, I'm kind of seeing some other people right now... but we're all really open... and... Well I don't really do the monogamous thing. I'm wondering why I'm getting this, I may have set something off with the deep comfort style of game I've been running lately but I hadn't gone too far with her yet.
Doc: That's cool, I'm seeing two other people right now and we're open about everything. BDSM: Yeah most people in the community aren't Doc: -I almost choke- Community? BDSM: Yeah like bondage and stuff I'm tempted to start telling her how I'm in a community and how we're not monogamous either but I hold myself back.
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I want to try and go for the pull again and get up to move her. We go back downstairs and I take her through this weird revolving door thing. It's basically like something you'd see in a fun house, you get in, spin it, and you come out on the other side. The people at this house have some really cool shit. This is move # 3: movement is another key to making fast lays happen. Movement is also the only true test for attraction. Girls will NOT move with a guy she is attracted to. You’ r et wodef aul topt i onswhenyoudon’ tknow whatt oi nset ,shoul dbe: Try to qualify her. Try to move her I get her in it with me and spin it half way so it's stuck and completely dark inside. We make out and I put her hand on my cock. She's really aggressive and I decide to just whip it out. Her hand goes right for it but I want to see how far I can push the interaction right in this door. I grab her head and push her down a little, she's reluctant but I push a little harder and she gets down and starts to blow me. People are getting pissed that we're blocking the door and I tell her we need to go somewhere more private. I try to go for the front door but she tells me the Russian guy pulled some girl back to her car and I had taken the train there. We keep talking and I say I have to use the bathroom. There's someone in it but no line. The door opens and I push her into it and start making out. I reach behind her back, open the door, and lead her inside. I'm wondering if I can really fuck her right here in the bathroom. She's wearing jeans and I'm not sure if I can get her out of them. Every girl should be required to wear a skirt! She starts getting really rough by biting me and using her nails I get even rougher with her I take my dick back out and her mouth goes right for it. She gives great head. It's not very often that I meet a girl who can deep throat me. PAGE:
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I grab the back of her hair and pull her up and bend her over the toilet, she unbuttons her pants and takes one of her legs out of them and spreads her legs. I put on a condom and stick it in her. The whole time I'm fucking her I'm thinking about sticking her head in the toilet and giving her a swirly. Thanks El Topo you Tranny fucking mother fucker! We finish pretty quickly and hang out for another 30 minutes until the Russian guy comes back. I get her number and go to smoke a cigarette. The Russian follows me outside and tells me that BDSM really likes me and to not worry about him and if I ever want to we can tag team her. I think back to talking to Sinn about pig roasting chicks about 4 hours earlier. I've missed the last train at this point and have about an hour and a half until Saffron can come and pick me up. I walk back towards the bathroom. I see a girl standing alone and I decide to fuck around
Doc: Are you on your period? HB: -Shocked- ... I was yesterday Doc: Fuck! I missed it by 24 hours! I don't want to talk to you anymore HB: HAHA! You like that? Doc: I love it We talk for another couple minutes, I bite my lip ring, and she mirrors me. I go in for the kiss and we make out for like 30 seconds before one of her friends flips out and pulls her away from me. I know her friend and she thinks I'm some super player. I guess that shows that you can open with anything, including menstrual blood.
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I continue to the bathroom and there is one girl in line. She's super tiny, like 4'10", 90lbs, and cute. She leaning against the wall in this super exaggerated PUA’ sesquire locking in type of position. I tease her about it and lock in even more exaggerated than she is. The door opens and she goes in. She comes out a minute later and tells me to keep the position. I walk by her, two dudes, and another girl about 30 minutes later and she smiles at me. She's standing in the same position again.
Doc: How's that position treating you? Short: It's a good position Doc: They're all good positions Short: Ha! Ha! Ha! You have a favorite? Doc: That's tough but I can tell you like it rough Short: laughs and says something about sex positions A few minutes later she tells me I'm really cute and I make out with her. I had decided I was in blow me or blow me out mode because I had about 45 minutes until Saffron showed up. We make out, I grab her ass, and she grabs my dick. I go under her skirt and rub her pussy. She goes into my jeans and feels my dick. "What are you doing to me? She replies "Something good" I go under her thong and finger her. She realizes all her friends have left after another couple minutes and freaks out trying to find them. I open a few more sets but nothing really goes anywhere. I see the short girl coming out of the bathroom right before I'm about to leave and if I had been there about two minutes earlier I'm pretty sure I could have fucked her in the bathroom just by leading. She leaves in the arms of one of her social circle guy friends. Sinn broke it down really well the next day by saying how some girls will have issues with fucking new guys but love getting all fired up with one and then going home with some guy they know. I hope I got that guy laid that night
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I t ’ st r ueof t ent i mesgi r l swi l lf l i r tout si det hei rsoci alci r cl es,butdon’ twant the stigma of fucking a random guy. So they go back and fuck some guy who’ spar toft hei rsoci alci r cl e.Thi s is one of many reasons to build a social circle. Saffron shows up and we go and get McDonalds... I love 24 hour drive thru. To learn more about Doc Holliday check out his blog at www.Dochollidaypua.com
BJR: WANNA WATCH ME JERK OFF IN THE BATHROOM: SINN Prepare to shield your eyes and stop reading if you are easily offended. Seriously, this will be an offensive article. So if you are going to bitch or leave an annoying comment, please skip this article. I was a little more reactive when I wrote this :p Plus my dad had just started reading my blog. To read it yourself go to www.Sinnsofattraction.blogspot.com So lately I have been focused more on quick escalation game; mostly, because I have been on the road 10 of the last 11 weekends. I t hi nkI ’ vebeen in LA for the weekend once in three months. So I am all about trying to escalate for SNLs and in the club sex. My experimentation has led to a bunch of one night stands, but a complete failure to have sex in the venue, until last night. Brad P posted about a friend of his who could get blowjobs in clubs all the t i mebyaski nggi r l si ft heywant edt owat chhi m“ t akecar eofhi msel f . ”Sof or kicks I had been field-t est i ngt hi s,andcompl ai ni ngt hati tdi dn’ twor k, because for the first 100 sometimes the girls just laughed. Then Savoy told me he talked to Brad and he said the key was to look for sexual looking lone wolves and wait for them by the bathroom. Kind of creepy! He also said that a lot of the time they just watch him jerk it. So it still sounded iffy but at least a little less so. This is an idea that I feel has really helped my development in the game. I always field test EVERYTHING. Especi al l yi fi tsoundsst upi dorl i kei tdoesn’ t
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wor k.Ther easoni syouneverknow.Sodon’ tbeaf r ai dt ot r yanyt hi ngyou r ead.Thewor stt hi ngt hatcanhappeni si twon’ twor k. Last night as the Vancouver BC is ending I find myself in line next to a girl, and she gives me a look. I say:“ Don’ twor r yI won’ tbet ool ongI ’ mj ustgoi ng t ot akecar eofmysel f .Youwannawat ch?” She says yes and we go into the bathroom together, I actually had to pee though so I did with her in there and then I try to escalate and leave. Turns outshewasanobst acl ei nasetast udentwaswor ki ng.I t ’ sar oundtwo so we round everyone up and start to debrief, we go outside of the club (Republic in caseyou’ r ewonder i ngwher et hi st ookpl ace)andshehappenst obeoutt oo smoking with Instructor X. I run some huge cock game including the term hitting her in the face with af r ozenr ope… shel eavesbysayi ng“ MaybeI ’ l lseeyoui nabat hr oom somet i me” .I immediately recognize this as buying signal, and wait for her to go before I too head inside. I find her at the table with her friends who inform met hatshe’ sgayanddr unk.Shehadpr evi ousl yt ol dmeshehadnotbeen drinking and as a drunk guy, I can tell when people are drunk. The key here in my mind is that I di dn’ ti mmediately follow her in when she made the comment about running into me in the bathroom. If I had left or tried to pull her in immediately after that I would have telegraphed a ton of sexual neediness and blown the entire thing. I grab the girl by the arm and drag her to the bathroom, telling her friend that it is my job to drag her away and her job to stop me: credit Savoy. We get to the bathroom line and I make out with her on a pinball machine then in a dark storeroom before we get in line for the bathroom. Her friend re-appears and tells me she is going home with her. I agree, and say we are just going to the bathroom. The door opens and my girl and the obstacle have a discussion as to who is going home with whom, before the obstacle starts to leave. And, I go into the bathroom with the girl. Shove against the wall and removal of bottoms ensues. I try to go for the gold but I end up with a bathroom BJ. This was a pretty funny situation as the girl had already made the decision to fool around with me in the bathroom. So her friend was basically sitting there as she was about go into the bathroom with a guy she met in the last 30
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minutes. The obstacle was distraught and her only recourse was to tell me the girl was leaving with her. Later the girl tried to leave with me but I bounced. So far the masturbate watch technique is 1 for about a hundred, but the amountofef f or tal mostmakesi twor t hi t .Pl usi t ’ soneoft hoset hi ngst hat show youar ej ustf ucki ngwi t ht heseti ft heydon’ tt akei t .I have yet to get a bad reaction from that line. Si ncet hi spostI ’ veusedt het echni quesuccessf ul l ysever almor et i mes.I t ’ s all in the delivery. If you say it too early or too playfully, it comes off as a cocky funny line. The key is to mix perverted vibe with nice guy vibe.
IN VENUE LAYS BREAKDOWN: IVL’ s can be a complicated thing. There are a variety of obstacl est oI VL’ s, not the least of which are obstacles in the set, bathroom attendants and the gi r l ’ sownant i -slut defense. Sol et ’ stalk aboutsomewayst omakeI VL’ shappen. The first thing you want to do is be aware of the in venue logistics. That means knowing where all the bathrooms in the venue are. It also means making note of stairways, ice r ooms,r oof s,et c… As you saw in one of Brad’ sr epor t s,youmaywantt owai tt i ll later in the night when certain parts of the venue are closed, and there are not many people around. Whenyou’ r ei nvest i gat i ngt hebat hr oomsbeawar eofat t endant s.Mostof the time you can bribe these guys - if it ’ sget t i ngon enough with the girl. The following is a good tip I picked up from Savoy, instead of asking if you can bring a girl into the bathroom, ask him if you can give him whatever amount ofmoneyyou’ r et r yi ngt obr i behi m wi t h(usually $20). Once he takes the money, you can pull the girl into the bathroom. The next thing to thi nkabouti swheni tcomest oI VL’ sis getting the girl into a private location. There are two general strategies to getting girls into the bathroom. The first one involves letting the girl know you guys are heading into the bathroom. There are a variety of ways to do this from telling heryou’ r egoi ngt ogot akecar eofyour sel fi nt hebat hr oom,t oaski nghert o dance in the bathroom, to saying you guys are going to pee together.
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There are risks and rewards with this style as you can blow yourself out of set sbybei ng“ cr eepy”whenyousuggestgoi ngt ot hebat hr oom.Ther ewar d oft hi swheni twor ks,i st hatwheni tdoeswor ki t ’ smuchmor eon.Andt her e’ s no chance of her freaking out because you guys are going into the bathroom together. The second way to get girls into the bathroom, is to move them without t el l i ngt hem wher eyou’ r egoi ng.I ft hegi r l sask,youcanal waysrespond with t hecl assi cl i ne.“ A little place I l i ket ocal l ,you’ l lsee. ”Thenonceyoupul lt he girl into the bathroom you can escalate immediately. This works better after you have already made out with her. There are a few different ways to get girls out of the venue into a private location. The easiest way is to complain about something and suggest moving outside. It can be too hot, too loud etc. You can also suggest going for a walk or a cigarette. If you drove to the venue, and want to use your car for sex you can also have to grab something from the car. The idea is to simply provide a logical reason to move outside so you can escalate without people being able to see. Last l yl et ’ st al kaboutt hemosti mpor t antfactor in getting in venue lays, balls. Wheni t ’ sonyouhavet obewilling and able to pull the trigger. In fact, I would go so far as to say that you will be blown out more often for not escalating, than you will for over-escalating. Youwi l lnevergeti nvenuel aysi fyoudon’ tt r yt ogett hegi r l si nt opr i vat e locations. Only by trying for these isolations, will you be able to develop a feel for when the right time is. You will be surprised at how fast you can get into sexual situations with girls you just met. You just have to have the balls to try.
DAY GAME AND INTERNET What is day game? Day game refers to approaching women in any situation outside of a bar or club.
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Every day you see tons of beautiful women as you go about your day. Be it walking around your city or sitting at a Starbucks, you can meet amazing women during the day.
LR: SAME DAY LAY, THE DIRTY WAY- DOC HOLLIDAY I leave Project Boston around 7pm and get on the subway. About half way t hr oughmyr i deacut egi r lsqueez esont ot het r ai n.She’ sabout5’ 3” ,br ownhai r , green eyes, a good 7. There had been a daytime Red Sox game and it had gotten out about 30 minutes before. So of course there are about 50 more people on the train than t her es houl dbeandI ’ m wedgedi nt ot hear mpi tofRedSoxf an#763’ sBi gPapi jersey. I notice the girl checking out my reflection in the mirror of the train but there is nowayi nhel lI ’ m goi ngt obeabl et omaneuv erar oundal l oft hesepeopl et oopen her. I get off at my stop to switch trains and notice that she gets off behind me. The loud speaker comes on and says there is a delay. I make eye contact with her as the announcement is being made and roll my eyes. She laughs. I say hi and introduce myself. We start talking and another announc ementcomesonandt el lev er y onet hatwe’ r egoi ngt ohav et ot ak eabus and to go upstairs. Wewal kout si det oget herandsi tdownonabenc h.We’ r emost l ymaki ngsmal l talk about what we do and how much the subway sucks....thirty minutes later and no bus. They tell us to all go back downstairs and that the problem is fixed and a train will arrive shortly. We go back downstairs and talk for another fifteen minutes until a train comes and we get on. Here Doc actually gets helped out by the delay. Not only does he get more time to talk to this girl, the speaker forces him and the girl to move around a couple times and as we all know movement is key. She starts giving me shit about something and I t el lheral lwe’ r eev ergoi ngt o doi sf i ghtandhav ehotmakeupsex .Shebl ushesands ay s“ Whos ai dwe’ r e hav i ngsex ?” This is a concept I call assuming the relationship. By making a comment like “ We’ df i ghtal lt het i meandhav ehotmakeupsex .I tassumest hatt her ewi l lbea
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sex ualr el at i ons hi pandi tal soassumest hatbot hofy ouknowt hi s.I t ’ sgr eatt o move the interaction to this level as quickly as possible. We’ v es pentaboutanhourandahal ft al ki ngt oeachot heratt hi spoi ntandI canf eelt hes ex ualt ensi on.I t ’ sabout9pm nowandI think I can pull off the same day lay. I get off at her stop saying it was mine and how crazy that we live near each other. She mentions how it can be dangerous at night walking alone. I take the hint and offer to take her home. She lives about 20 minutes from the train station and I know I have to start t ouchi nghermor ei fI ’ m goi ngt o be able to pull this off. Iassbumpheraswe’ r ewal ki ngandshedoesi tback.I grab her hand, spin her around and start walking arm and arm. She rests her head on my shoulder. This is one of my favorite check-in points to see how into me she is, she passes. We start to hold hands and end up at her apartment. We sit down on her front porch and talk for about 10 minutes. I t el lheri t ’ sl at eandI have to get home soon but I need to use her bathroom. Works every time! I get inside and take a piss. She’ sst andi ngr i ghtneart hedoorwhenI get out and I give her a hug. I pull back and look her in the eyes and go in for the kiss. We make out pretty hard and I push her against a door and she lets out a little moan. I move her into the living room and onto a couch and she starts to rub my thigh. I move her hand up to my cock and start to rub her pussy through her pants. Shet el l smeshe’ sonherper i odbutwecandoot hert hi ngs.I stand up, grab the back of her hair and push her onto her knees. She undoes my pants and starts to blow me. After about 5 minutes and tell her we should move into her room. I get her pants off and tell her I wantt of uckherbuts he’ sf r eaki ngoutabout her period. I try to plow through the LMR for about an hour. I try freeze outs, I try building more comfort, I t r yt el l i ngherI ’ m okwi t hherbei ngonherper i odandt hat i t ’ snat ur al ,I try to cave man her, I try everything. Nothing works. I finally let her blow me until I cum. We turn on Kill Bill and go to bed. I wake up hard a few hours later and poke her in the back with it until she wakes up.
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She reaches her arm around her back and starts to play with it. I tell her I want to fuck her and she gives me more period excuses. I decide fuck it, what do I have to lose, and tell her I want to fuck her in the ass. She gives a little token resistance but tells me there is lube in the drawer next to her bed. I grab it and finger her ass for a couple minutes and start to fuck her. When all else fails for LMR I just like to fall asl eepandei t hery ou’ l lbot hwake uphor nyi nacoupl eofhour sandf uckory ou’ l lhav esexi nt hemor ni ng. In the morning we take a shower together and I finally get to fuck her pussy. Mission accomplished.
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HE SAID/SHE SAID: A PERFECT PICKUP AND BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY: SHAWN MESSENGER A new kind of field report: His story and her story. If you want to get the girl AND make her happy, you need to know what she thinks, and what she feels. You need to know HER story. I met my girlfriend one sunny afternoon in the city. I was in the middle of teaching Art of Rapport I didn't know her, and she didn't know me, but after 10 minutes, we felt like we were supposed to know each other. This is the story of how it happened. mine:
Both sides of the story, hers and
Him: She is the most beautiful girl I've ever seen. Warm, honey skin, soft brown eyes, long lashes, silky hair flowing under a funky cap, just a touch of sparkly blue eye-shadow, and a sly smile under pillowy lips. Her: First of all, let me tell you something about myself. I'm not your typical shy, submissive Asian girl. On the contrary, guys are intimidated by me. I'm very sensible and I'm very proud of my logical brain. Usually with guys, I can sense the bullshit coming miles away. I tend to be very dismissive of guys' so-called "lines." And I thought I was immune to pick-ups. That is, PAGE:
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until I met Sean. He blew me away and I was just too taken aback to react with my "logical brain." And one more thing, about the time that this happened, I was a little upset about boys. The last thing I want is to date one. Him: It's a crowded Sunday in a little café in Union Square in San Francisco. Workers are putting up the giant Christmas tree, and shoppers are everywhere. It's not quiet, calm, and peaceful. People are jostling about, and everyone can see everything. Perfect. Put this on display for all to see -- this is exactly what I have prepared for. Day time pick-ups can become spectacles. It is much more likely that people are going to pay attention to you approaching a girl during the day. I dealwi t hi tbyt hi nki ngt hatt heyal lwi sht heycoul dbedoi ngwhatI ’ m doi ng. Her: It was in November. I was really tired that day and I was dazed. I just wanted to get my cafe mocha and sit. There were a lot of people in the little cafe, standing in line, wanting to buy the pretty little pastries displayed on the glass window. I remembered being a little annoyed with the crowd. So crowded and loud, I just want to be away from the noise. I smiled at the guy behind the counter and flirt a little. And then, off with my coffee. Him: Get in line for food and keep looking at her. I fix her image in my mind. I look away. Let the nerves build up. Feel it in my chest, in my heart. I want this beautiful girl. I want her so much. I want her to have my kids, and her kids, and walk hand-in-hand on the boardwalk on the beach, win her giant stuffed animals for her at games of chance, snuggle on Sunday mornings, and buy her sparkly things to make her smile. I let all the silly and wussy and once-again-silly thoughts fill me up. I will use them as fuel. Most guys try to ignore or fight their feelings of fear. Sean accepts them and uses them to help his approach. A little bit of nervousness can be a good thing in a pick-up. It keeps you from looking too smooth. I will walk up to her, alone. I will have no pretext, no introduction, no excuse. It will be her, and it will be me, and in this secret world, we will be. I want the nerves. I want the fear. I want this to be hard. For a man who didn't know what he was doing, that would make it impossible. For me -- for me it makes it perfect. Her: My friend was at the corner of the cafe, trying to find us seats. We have to be like vultures; otherwise we have to sit outside drinking coffee in the chilly November weather. We finally managed to find a nice square table PAGE:
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tucked away in the corner of the cafe. I took the seat facing the window outside with my back towards the line of people. Him: My single 100%-perfect girl takes a seat at a table right behind me -with her 99%-perfect girl friend. She's here, now. I know from experience if I leave now, without meeting her, it will wake me from a sound sleep when I am old and grey, and the not knowing will haunt me like a ghost. This is the reason a lot of us got into pick up. At least for me the haunting image of a girl I wanted to approach, but was too scared to do it. Fuck it. I have studied, practiced and worked at this for a reason. This girl is the reason. She is the one that brought me here today. When you find the princess, she will not be waiting for you on a bed made of Twinkies and tits. She will be in a castle, guarded by a dragon, behind a wall of flames. Walk through the flames. I step out of line. Walk to her table. I feel every eye upon me. Stand at their table. They both look up. I say nothing. I don't worry about what to say. My hands are down, my eyes are steady. I open my mouth.
"I was on my way out, and I saw you." "I couldn't leave without meeting you. May I sit?" Simple, direct and classy. A great day game approach. Her: The second after we sat down, right before I opened my mouth to chatter away, I felt a soft tap on my left shoulder. I looked up and saw this big, white guy wearing a blue shirt looking down on me. The first thought that flew to my mind, "hmm, maybe he wants the empty chair." I smiled at him, ready to give the answer, "Yes, you can have the chair." But, all the time, he kept holding my gaze and then moments later he uttered the most unexpected words, "I was on my way outside"(Pause) and I saw you. I just have to talk to you." (pause)... May I sit down?" Him: They both stare at me. The room stares at me. I wait. She says yes. I reach back to table behind me and grab a chair from another table without asking. Is someone else using it? Not anymore. Chair bangs against other chairs. It appears unsmooth, but I don't care. PAGE:
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Her: The way he said it, it was so soft, and felt so genuine and his expression, it didn't feel fake. I think my brain stopped working, because, before I can think of anything to say, I felt my right arm gesturing to the empty chair next to my right and said, "sure." He sat down and kept holding my gaze, and didn't say anything. I felt very awkward and felt compelled to say something first (keep in mind I have a friend who sat next to my left and she had this shock expression on her face.and I know she won't say anything). After the proper introduction, I asked him what he was doing? Him: I sit. Look at her -- gently, but seeing her. I don't say anything. A year passes. She asks, "so what are you doing today?" Her I felt dream-like. My heart was beating faster and I kept trying to think. I could not believe that this is happening, but, I was willing to give this guy a chance. He told us about his goddaughter and showed us pictures of his dogs. All the time, I felt comfortable and looking at him, I thought to myself "hmm...this guys is cute and he has really nice eyes." however, I'm still not sure where all this is going , and I can feel that my friend did not like what was happening one bit. I can actually feel her being really cold to this stranger. Him: I mention something about Christmas shopping. Start talking normal stuff. Introduce myself, they introduce themselves. Carrie and Lily. My internal circuits are all afire, but I will not stop. That's how it works. I don't have to keep going. I just have to Not. Stop. You may not always be calm, cool and collected on the inside but you must present that image externally to have any chance of success. Carrie is from Indonesia. Lily is from Thailand. They live here now. I tell them I teach dogs owners how to understand their dogs. They love dogs, Golden Retrievers. I tell them how big the hearts of a Golden are, that they are made of love. Time passes. I talk about the park near my house. Watching sunset from the swings, and the cafe close by with the best hot chocolate in the city. Her: He told us that he just moved here from boston and that he lived by the park on which hill you can climb and view san francisco city light. A few minutes later, he said he had to go and then said that me and him should go to that park together. I thought to myself, "Uh-uh, not so fast, dude"
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He tried to make me to say yes. But, I stubborny said "We'll see...we'll see," and smiled sweetly at him. And finally he asked for my phone number. Him: The air is heavy with this moment I feel the weight. Time to go. Tell them so. Tell Gia to meet me at my house next week and we'll go to the park. She agrees. Gives me her number. We hug, and her skin smells like summer. Her: To this day, I still do not know why I gave him my number. It could be that I sensed something about him or that I was carried away in the movie moment. The feeling was indescribable. it felt surreal, it was pure emotions. I stand. Legs still working. Nice surprise. Walk out, slow, stunned. Kick-to-the-head stunned. My world is of muffled sound, like under the sea, like leaving a Metallica show. Everything is slow and gentle, everything is floaty. Her: I still wasn't sure about him. Part of me hope so much for it to be real, hope that he's not an asshole and really hope that he meant what he said. However, He was nothing but sweet and genuine and funny for the next few days we talked on the phone. Talk twice over next week, flirty, funny, sexy. Normal topics too. School, work, fun. She's coming over Saturday. Her: I did try to talk myself out of this date, but I can't. The way he came up to me like that, being so vulnerable and yet so strong, I just can't. This guy is ballsy and I like that. I granted him one date. I thought, "What the hell, it should be fun, I got free pizza." Him: With two bottles of wine, one white, one red. With a dog treat for my dog. We will be as lovers who meet again and again, as the wheel does turn, as it was meant to be. Her: This month is our 7th month dating each other. I am very happy and the story of how we met has been told many times. My friend and I still talk about it. Every time I passed that little cafe, every time I drank my cafe mocha, my mind always flew back to that moment. Its embedded forever in in my heart. To learn from Shawn go to www.LV03.com Met her, seduced her, then banged her in the parking lot: In10se PAGE:
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I thought I'd post a quick field report for you guys that just happened tonight... I had an online chick meeting flake last minute so I went out to study The setting: Starbucks Coffee shop It was about 730 pm and I had just sat down to study. Of course I picked a location right next to an HB8.5 brunette... (MUCH cuter than the gal from online that I was going to originally meet) late 20's, shorter hair like the gal from "Birds of Prey". She was wearing a Black jacket with a fur lined collar and black skin tight pants. Under the black jaket she had a very low cut shirt that revealed her Very nice nice tits (at least D here) which looked to perfect to be real... (They weren't real I later found out) but nonetheless she looked hot. She was reading something too and glanced up at me... I made it a point to catch her eye and smile. I noticed what she was reading (Some womens magazine) and I commented on it... which led to some small talk and some ball busting about her looking too sexy to be out for just coffee... (I don't mind small talk, busting balls, and being cocky and funny to start things off... it just makes a gal feel like you are someone she can be comfortable around. One point though, is that I never let up... I keep the ball rolling) Her name was Lisa. I then went into some cold reading about her... she was definitely very sexual and sensual, a "physical type", a do'er, someone who would rather do things than just think about doing them, also someone that enjoyed herself and could let go at times..., being at home in her own body, knowing what she likes, and what she wants... the type of person who just goes for it..." Cold reading is the art of telling people truisms( Things that are true about anyone)whi l emaki ngi tseem l i kei t ’ sdeepl yper sonal .Her eheal soi ncl udes some sexual frames as he frames this girl as being at home in her body and the type of person who goes after what she wants. I went on a little bit more with the cold read and then switched to an elicitation... "So what do you look for in a guy? What is attractive to you?"... She seemed to be feeling somewhat vulnerable at this point and she said, "I've been telling all about me... I feel kind of vulnerable, you know all this
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stuff about me, and I don't know anything about you..." So I went into some small talk, a little about me... and then went right back in to the elicitation... This will happen from time to time as you try to take social surface level conver sat i onsdeeper .I fagi r leverf eel sl i kei t ’ sget t i ngt oodeep.Si mpl ygo back to surface level conversation then try for to go back to a deeper level agai nl at er .Whatyoudon’ twantt odoi sar gueort r yt opr yi nf or mat i onoutof a non-compliant girl. "So you were telling me, what is it that you find attractive about a guy... and how do you know that you're attracted to this guy?" She thought a little and said, "No, you tell me what YOU want and what you find attractive..." "Passion" I said... "Where you can just let go of everything, and just enjoy this with all your heart... where right now, this is the only thing that really matters, where only this moment exists and you can just lose yourself in this sense of passion with this person..." Yeah... "Sweet surrender" she said as she smiled... "So what is sweet surrender?" I said. "I don't know... its just when you can just release all your inhibitions, and you just give yourself fully to someone... I'm a very passionate person," she said... Sweet surrender was an example of what is called a trance word in the NLP community. In10se tries to figure out what that feels like as he is looking for the internal process she goes through to feel passion. "In what ways are you passionate?" I said... "Well I'm very physically passionate... I love to cum, and have orgasms one right after another..." At this point, there were people beginning to listen to the convo so I said, "Let's go outside and sit where we can talk without other people listening" So we move outside in front of Starbucks and sat at a table in the corner... "So what were you telling me about? ... about how you're passionate physically... what you get out of being passionate..." Here he goes back to the previous thread to gather more information about her description of physical passion.
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"I'm not just physically passionate. I'm also passionate about LIFE... I give 110% of myself to every situation..." "Yeah, I think you can be physically passionate, emotionally passionate, and intellectually passionate... Passion is just something that you are... it's your world and the way you live life... isn't it..." We fluffed a little more about me, because she wanted to know a little more of what I do, what kinds of things I enjoyed and about my past girlfriends... I skirted some of those topics, but kept it light... Since it was starting to get cold, I said... "You know, it's getting cold... Let’ s go sit somewhere warm... how about your car, do you have a heater?" As I held her and and stood up. "Ok" she said and we started walking toward her car. She actually had a large sized Chevy Truck so we climbed in, turned the heat on, and continued talking. Her e’ saver ycl evermovet oi sol at i on.Rememberyoudon’ tneedagr eat reason to go somewhere private, you just need a reason. I started to bring up the "physical" thing again but she said, "You keep talking about sex... not that I'm not interested, but I'd like to talk about something else for a little bit..." I'm not the one that brought it up! About Physical passion, I meant it like having a passion for life. You're right, we shouldn't be talking about this... it make us too hot and bothered... and we're enjoying it too much... you shouldn't think about sex..." Here she starts to get freaked out a little by the sexual nature of the conversation, but In10se cleverly reframes it using a technique I call “ Blame the gir l ” . Anytime things are heating up and the girl starts to feel uncomfortable. Bl amet hegi r l .I t ’ sherf aul tf orbr i ngi ngupt hesubj ectofsex,orf orbei ngt oo sexy, or for looking at you like that etc. You can always blame the girl. "You know", I said, "You seem tense right here" as I reached over to the back of her neck area and began to massage the back of her neck."You seem to store a lot of tension right here..." as I continued and began to move closer in to her and brushing her face... (She was a "physical type" and I felt pretty confident with just moving in with the sexual kino...) PAGE:
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She responded my moving her lips to my hands and we were then making out big time... I pulled her leg over to on top of me, put the seat back and pulled her on top of me, straddling me. We continued the making out and started grinding big time... I put my hands down her back, down her pants, and felt her crack... no underwear as I squeezed her bare cheeks. Then she whipped out her huge tits and put them right in my mouth. She was a VERY kinky and uninhibited gal and she started sucking on HER OWN tit as I was sucking her nipple and kissing her mouth at the same time (That’ s how big her tits were!) THEN she asked me to BITE her nipples... and kept saying "Harder... BITE it with your teeth... make it hurt... let me know you want me" So I complied although I was kind of scared that I may make her bleed! Then she starts getting nasty and says, "Every woman wants to be treated like a slut,.. say "Fuck me, little slut" say "Fuck me, little whore"... Needless to say, I complied because she kept saying "SAY IT" until I did... As far as the rest of the report, you guys can just use you imagination... lets just say that we made her truck rock, and she was LOUD... I was worried about getting arrested because there were people in the parking lot, and she had multiple squirting orgasms which literally squeezed me out of her several times... Questions, Comments, Realizations? This is one of my favorite LRs of all time and reminds us all that you can never judge a girl by looking at her
FIELD REPORT: BRINGING OUT THE DEVIL IN ANGEL: IN10SE Well guys, You know, something about being a PUA that affects you wherever you go... you carry a certain energy in every situation... and you can read certain energies of gals who are ready ...even when you least expect it. I went to the local shopping center at about 12 noon today. Just me... and I stopped by the Quizno's sandwich place for a quick bite to eat. I walked in
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and immediately scanned the room. There were a few couples, there was a mom and her teen daughter, there was a woman in her forties, and sitting near the back was a 30 y/o 8.0 brunette who immediately made xtended eye contact with me. (Hmmm, an indicator of interest) I went ahead and ordered my sandwich, got my drink and sat at the table right next to her. Convenient. Of course I noticed her "energy" and it was inviting so I turned my body at a slight angle toward her and interestingly she did the same. I glanced over to her and made a comment, "You know who you look like... never mind" She had a quizical look on her face and I matched it with mine. I then smiled, and put out my hand and said, "My name is In10se". She smiled and said, "My name's Angel", as we shook hands, and I held on to her hand and went into Thumb-wrestling. She played along and started laughing. She was acting like a teenager. Look for ways to initiate touching in non sexual ways. Thumb wrestling is a great idea. I noticed though that she had a ring on, but I didn't bring it up. It was kind of interesting how she covered up her left hand with her right hand (almost covering up her ring, a good subconscious sign) as I asked her some fluff stuff. This lasted a short while... enough to make her comfortable. I asked her about what she does... what she enjoys doing around here, and then I went into some basic value elicitation. "So I'm curious about you, because you remind me of my Ex's sister... basically she was someone that was going out with a guy that was just filling a role, she was a beautiful gal and she knew that a part of her wanted to be with him, but there was also this other part always wondering if there was something more out there." Telling a girl she reminds you of someone and then describing the way you want the girl to act is a great way to set frames. I noticed her non-verbals, she seemed to agree. So I went on. "Basically, you know how there is a part of you, I know that it is probably true with more people than care to admit it... but are you really fulfilled? I mean, does this part of you really get what it needs in order to be really satisfied in just the way that you want it now?" PAGE:
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She said, "Are you kidding?" "I shouldn't be telling you this, but I've probably been touched twice by my boyfriend in the last month." "Oooo, that's too bad", I said as I made a sour face matching hers. I was done eating and then I said, "So, what do you do all day long then?" She replied with,"Not much, my days are free, from 8am to 4pm when my boyfriend gets home". (Another green light I thought... why would she even be TELLING me this) What are you doing the rest of today is a logistics gathering question. When she responds that she has nothing to do the rest of the day until her boyf r i endget sback,she’ ssubt l yl et t i nghi m know she’ si nt er est edi n continuing the interaction. I followed with, "Hmmm, so what are you doing this afternoon, is there a park around here or somewhere that we can go to and just hang out awhile?" She said there was one real close and told me to follow her. I got in my car and followed her to the park. We sat down under a tree by the pond and the ducks swam up to us. I then went right back into, "So you were telling me... what would you need to have in order to be really fulfilled and really enjoy things?" (Notice I left it vague) She replied with "Sensuousness". Mmmm, just what I wanted to hear as I followed with: “ So how do you know that you have this sensuousness with this person that you're with?" "Well, a really sensuous kiss can make me wet", "It's like you can kiss with your whole body and you can feel it in your body." (Green light I thought... she was talking about being WET) I then said, "So when you’ r ewith this person, where you can have this sense of sensuousness, where you can kiss this person, and you feel the sensuousness of this kiss in your whole body, and it's like a tingling... like electricity... is this right?" "Right here" as I touched her lower stomach. Her ehephysi cal l yanchor st hesensat i onsshef eel swhenshe’ shavi nga great kiss. She smiled. "Oh, and you know what else?” , she said, "Maybe one person in 100 can do this with their tongue" as she curled it into a U shape... "But only 1 in a million can do this" as she curled it into the opposite hump shape.
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"Wow, that means that you have really good control over your tongue muscles and have a really sensitive touch on your tongue". "I like that", I replied. Here he qualifies her for having good control of her muscles and a sensitive tongue. She was trying to get his approval with the tongue demonstration, andher ewar dsherher e.I t ’ snotcl assi cbai t -hook-Reel-release-rapport. But it works to validate her when she was clearly working for his approval. I leaned back on my back with my head and upper body supported by my elbows. She was facing me sitting up and looked down at my crotch. "You know, that's a dangerous position to be in", she said. (Green lights all the way, I thought) "When we have sex, you'll see exactly what I mean", she said. "Assuming that we're going to have sex of course". (GREEN LIGHTS!) I immediately followed with "Well, I know that for you, you probably have to feel completely safe and secure with this person... and two, that this is the kind of person that totally turns you on and that you are attracted to, for you to do this." "Exactly" she said. I followed with, "So what would have to happen for us to have sex?" Her e’ sanexampl eofobj ect i onbasedcl osi ng.This is a specialty of In10se. Heusest hemagi cphr ase“Whatwoul dhavet ohappen?”Thi si mmedi at el y acknowledges and gets around any objections she may have. It also helps by getting her to assist in her own seduction. She stopped and thought. Then replied with, "Well it definitely couldn't be at my house. It's too dangerous. We could go to your car and find a secluded place. There is also a motel that shows porn if your into that." "Let's go to my car", I said. I only have about 45 minutes though. We then went to my car, drove to behind a warehouse area that was secluded. And then went right into kissing, feeling, her shorts and panties off, my shorts and underwear off, and she gave me a BJ, as I slid the seat all the way back, put the back all the way down and put the parking break down. After the BJ (Deep throated awhile too) she climbed on top of me, slid me in and rid me hard. (After I put a condom on of course)
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Anyway, I drove her back to her car and she wants me to be her daytime diversion now. She's a pretty wild one. Into taking pictures, exhibitionism, threesomes with both guys and girls, and being tied up and blindfolded. She wants to tie ME up! I'm not sure if I'm into that. I told her I have a digital camera and she told me to bring it next time. She wants to do the two guy and a girl thing too so I may call on some of you SoCal Bro's. She is definitely up for group sex and hooking up with other women as well. Something about her told me when I first saw her, that she was game to play. Comments, Questions, Insights? To learn more about In10se and his specific type of hypnotic seductions. Go to www.octoberman.com
DAY GAME BREAKDOWN: I want to start this breakdown with a talk about some major differences between Day game and Night game. During night game we do group approaches, that means walking up to a group of people and initiating a conversation. During the day it is just plain inefficient, and because of the energy level differences we will address next, will just come off weird. One of the things I always say about day game is that it measures your ability to be a normal person, as you meet them in a completely every day environment. The next major difference between daytime and night time, is energy levels. Generally you want to approach the set with an energy level equal or SLIGHTLY higher than theirs. So at night when you are competing with lights, and music, and her friends, and alcohol, other guys etc.. Your energy level can be super high! Butdur i ngt hedayi nabookst or eorcof f eeshop,youdon’ twantt odr aw at t ent i ont owhati shappeni ng.Remembert hatwomendon’ twantat t ent i on drawn to the fact that she is flirting with you. Discretion is an attractive quality, so you want the interaction to look like two old friends catching up to anyone on the outside. A good general rule is to tone everything down to about 1/3 of what you would use in a club. That rule is equally applied to your movement. The person who moves less always has more social power. This applies more PAGE:
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during the day as you are going to be meeting in a fairly low stimulation environment, there may not be music or any noise whatsoever, thus making any nervous twitches or unnecessary movements all the more noticeable. The volume at which you speak, always an issue in bars and clubs, is not such an issue during the day. This means that you need to speak loudly enough to be heard and interpreted as confident. That said do not speak like you are trying to cut over a F-14 during takeoff. Remember the louder you talk, the more attention you are drawing to the situation and the more uncomfortable the both of you will become. Let ’ squi ckl yr evi ew t hebasi csofdel i ver yaswel l : Make sure you are projecting from your diaphragm instead of your chest. This is important because it not only lowers your voice to make it sound sexier, it also allows you to project your voice farther. Learning how to do this will ensure you are always heard. If needed it may be worth it to do a few sessions with a vocal coach. A quick Google search can get you a list of names. Speak one person behind whoever you are talking to. This will make sure that your voice carries. It will also keep you from being too loud while projecting your voice. Try to eliminate ums and ahs from your speaking, replace them with pauses. By making this correction alone, you will instantly sound more alpha and decisive. It can take practice but the more you weed out unnecessary words from your speech, the more clearly you will be displaying your attractive qualities. Pauses are very important as they build response attentiveness. You should pause for no reason every couple of minutes to build some intrigue into what you are saying. People start paying attention when you pause. Do not speak too fast. I cannot overstate this as someone who formerly spoke like an Olympic sprinter. The faster you speak, the more it looks like you are nervous, or worried that the people you are speaking too are going to st opl i st eni ng.Thi st el egr aphsat onofi nsecur i t y.Don’ twor r yt heyar enot going to leave if you slow down and take a second to collect yourself. Don’ tbeaf r ai dt owast et hegi r l ’ s time. If you lose track of what you were saying or doing a second ago, take a second to collect your thoughts. Make PAGE:
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herwai tasecondt ool ongbef or eyouanswerherquest i ons.Don’ tappearso eager and happy to simply be speaking to a girl. Makest at ement s,don’ taskquest i ons. Aski ngquest i onsi sl i ke withdrawingmoneyf r om t hebank.Ther e’ sonl ysomuchi nt her eandaf t eri t ’ s gone the withdrawal fee is the girl walking away. A great simple conversational trick, is to turn any boring question into a statement. For example if I want to ask what a girl does, I can ask the chodlicious question: “ Whatdoyoudo?”OrI cansay“ Youl ookl i keanur se. I fshei sanur se,she’ l l beamazed,i fshei sn’ tshewi l lwonderwhyI thought that and tell me what she actually does. Avoid questions like the plague until you are into comfort. Don’ tspeaki nashor tchoppymanner .Makesur et hatyourspeechhasa rhythmic quality to it and sounds smooth. Elongate words and try to be as smooth as possible. Think of how you would talk to your girlfriend after sex. Speak clearly.Don’ tmumbl e,sl urorf or gett oenunci at e. Another major difference between day and night game is actual time constraints. At a bar or a club, girls are out for the rest of the night. At a coffee shop on a Wednesday afternoon, she may have a myriad of reasons whyshecan’ tt al kf ormor et han10mi nut es.Shemayhavet ogoan appoi nt ment ,pi ckupt hedr ycl eani ng,getbackt owor ket c… Pl ushopef ul l y YOU have legitimate time constraints. Ther ealpur poseofdaygame,i nyourhumbl eaut hor ’ sopi ni on,is not to set out a couple of hours a day to scour the streets looking for women to approach. Instead the point is to integrate picking up girls as a daily part of your behavior as integral to who you are, as the way you dress or the music you listen to. Because of this factor we are going to be speeding the game up quite a bit, and aiming to get phone #s within ten minutes EVERY set. During the day you are going to do moving sets. Moving sets inside a bar or club, are usually a bad idea. First they are in a bar or club right? So they are probably going to have a place where they are going to sit or stand around. Soi t ’ smucheasi ert owai tf ort hem t ogetset t l edandt henappr oacht hem then it is to get them to stop. During the day however, you will never see that gi r leveragai ni fyoudon’ tgethert ost opandhaveaconver sat i onwi t hyou!
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There are three general ways to open moving sets: 1. Walk with them and open them over the shoulder while slightly ahead of them( Credit Mystery) In this approach you and the girl are moving in the same direction. You get a little bit ahead of her and then turn your head slightly to face her and open with something indirect. 2. Stopping the set. (Credit Tyler Durden) With the girl walking with in the same direction as you or the opposite direction to you. You plant your feet and deliver your opener very loudly. It is critically important that no matter what happens, you do not move your feet to chase her. You stand completely still and continue talking. You can open either direct or indirect in this fashion. 3. Going direct. With the girl either walking the same direction or the opposite direction as you. If she is walking the opposite direction as you, you can step in front of her, or chase her down and open her with a direct opener. With a girl walking the same direction as you , tap her on the shoulder to get her attention, and then use a direct opener. Such as“I noticed you from across the X and I knew that if I di dn’ tcome over and see if there was more toyout hanmeet st heeye,I ’ dbe ki cki ngmysel ff ort her estoft heday.Mynamei s… Di r ecti swaymor e powerful during the day than it is at night. The first major structural change from day time to night time, is the shrinking of the attraction phase. When you approach a girl in a group and she i sn’ tsomewhati nt er est edr i ghtaway,youar est i l lok.That ’ sbecausei fshe doesn’ tl i keyoubutherf r i endsdo,youwi l lst i l lbeal l owedt ohangar oundand convey personality. If you approach a single girl and she is not interested in at least having a conversation with you within three minutes, you are in trouble. The reason is t hatyoudon’ thavegr oupappr ovaldur i ngt heday.Shedoesn’ thavet ot hi nk about why her friends like you even though she doesn’ t ,soshemakesa decision that you are uninteresting much faster. Thegoodnewsi s,t hatdur i ngt hedayherdef ensesar en’ tup.For get t i ng for a second, the stigma certain people including the author hold about meeting in bars and clubs, she simply doesn’ tgetappr oachedasmuch during the day. So much so, that the very act of approaching and having your shit together, is enough to get attraction most of the time. This is why during the day we try to go straight into qualification off the opener. PAGE:
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Youdon’ tneedt onegative during the day. Negging is a much mi sunder st oodconcept ,butdur i ngt hedayyoudon’ tneedi t ,ast hegi r l swi l l be much more receptive and friendly. You do however need banter. I define banter as competent flirting and teasing skills. Don’ tt ouchgi r l s( while meeting them) in ways that you would be uncomfortable touching your boss. Touching too much during the day, along with crowding a girl’ s personal space on the approach, are the two best ways to creep a girl out in a hurry. One of the major differences between bar and club interactions and day time interactions is the level of acceptable touching. Atni ghtwhenshe’ soutwi t hherf r i endshavi ngsomesoci alt i me,i t ’ s acceptable to make out with and maybe even take home some new guy. When she’ sdoi ngherhomewor katSt ar bucks,notsomuch.
Online Game WHAT IS ONLINE GAME? Online game obviously refers to meeting women online. This could be through a social networking site like MySpace, or Facebook, through a chatroom, or even off a dating service. Online dating should never be the crux of your game, but it can be a nice little bonuses round. Speer is the founder of Phaseshift Lounge. He worked with Mystery at Venusian Arts and lived briefly in Project Miami. This theory brings me to MySpace… I was in that place mentally where I j ustdi dn’ tf eell i kegoi ngout .I felt like staying at home and watching the flickering lights on my projector. Watching movies, TV shows, visualization programs that sync to the music I listen to, etc. I just felt like I was in a rut. The worse thing is the more I di dn’ tgoout , the worse I felt. This concept is like a catch 22. I asked myself what I could do to still pick up girls without going out. How can I attract girls to come to me, or at least have a solid reason to get out of the house. When I feel this way I always reach out to my friends. I decided that I needed to brainstorm. So I called a good friend of mine Brady (A.K.A Havok) and we shared stories about our recent adventures. I also told him how I was feeling and that I j ustdi dn’ tf eell i kegoi ngoutanywher e.I di dn’ tf eell i kegami ngor even hanging out with friends. Brady shared one of his recent adventures with PAGE:
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a girl that he met through MySpace. He told me his typical message he sends out to numerous girls. He also shared with me the girls he was actually pulling from the site. I was thinking to myself this sounds like a winner. I don’ thave to leave the house until I have a reason to. What I did is made a cool looking profile which included pictures of me with celebrities, pictures of my social circle, my girls, my house (Project Miami) and of course pictures of myself. Then I wrote a brief description of myself, what I like, and what I don’ tl i ke. I wrote a few things in the blog section that would DHV me if my targets were interested and actually took the time to read it. I also put one of my favorite songs at the time to load as soon as you enter the page. That way I was creating a vibe when they look over my page. Themosti mpor t antt hi ngf oryourpr of i l ei syourpi ct ur es.Youdon’ thave to be Brad Pitt but you do need to have pictures that convey your personality. Att heendoft hi schapt erwe’ l lhaveadosanddon’ t s on profile pictures. Then I took the time to develop a generic message that I could send out to as many girls as I wanted. A message that would be short, simple, and would have hooks that will be able to make a girl that is interested in reply with someI OI ’ s. The message I developed went something like this:
“ I don’ tg et on this much lately but somehow I ended on your profile and you know what? This is a good use of scarcity. One of the main things we want to convey with online dating is that we are not taking online dating too seriously. Your like the little sister I never wanted:p ... Good tease. You seem like you might be more than just another pretty face in the crowd... Here in Miami, beauty is common, especially in my field. However, you seem like you might have something more to offer. Introduction of the screening frame! You want to make sure you introduce t hescr eeni ngf r ameear l yi nt hemessages.Ther e’ sal soagoodopenl oopwi t h some value about the field he is in.
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There are actually three things that are really important. Do you know what they are? This is a GREAT open loop. Open loops are unfinished thoughts or hooks that create curiosity. Speer =---->“ ThenI developed an additional generic message to reply to their replies. That way I had little to no work to do and I could literally farm hundreds of girls. Also when the girls replied to my first message I would wait a while before reading their reply and replying to it. The reason for that is in the first message I wr ot e“ Idon’ tgetont hi smuch”whi chmeansi fI was online all the time it would not be congruent. That reply message I would send out went something like this: “Sorry for getting back to you so late..I just got back from a full day that started out with a beach party, you know I got to get my tan on, then I came back to the house for a quick shower and right back out to a fashion show where we had a few tables and a whole bunch of us got bottles. You gotta party right!! I had a freaking blast. I got to hang out with all my friends and my girls. Then the after party... because what type of guy with I be if I di dn’ thavean after party to go to? I grabbed some of my girlfriends and one of my best friends and went out to one of the coolest clubs around. I don’ twantt ot el l you the name because you might stock me, but I can honestly say it is one of the hottest venues in south beach. Drop me your number and if the night is right next time I'll invite you along. Oh yeah almost forgot the three most important things: 1. A good outlook on life 2. A good energy 3. A great personality I t ’ sal waysagoodi deat oescal at et hei nt er act i onf r om messagesor messenger programs to the phone as quickly as possible. TheSi nn’ sOfAt t r act i onOnl i neI nt i macyscal egoesl i ket hi s.1.Wi nks, pokes, etc.. 2. Messages on a dating or social networking site 3. Instant messenger 4. Text 5. Phone calls 6. Real life.
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After sending out my first message to around 30 girls I had like 7 replies. I waited a few days and then sent off my scripted reply. Out of the 7 girls 2 hooked, sent me there numbers and I called them and set a meet date, and time with them. I coul dn’ tbel i evei tbuti tact ual l ywor ked.I got a date with a 9.5 from MySpace. Onl i nedat i ngi sabi tofanumber sgame.Don’ tbedi scour agedi fany parti cul argi r ldoesn’ tr espond. As I was driving to her house the lug nut to my car broke off and I slid all over the highway. I almost hit the wall but thank god I learned stunt driving because my natural skill took over and saved my life. Damn I thought to myself now I don’ tgett ogopi ckherup. I called a tow truck and a good friend named Ben to come pick me up. I asked him to drop me off at my parent’ s house because I would not be able to drive my car until I get a chance to bring it to the shop tomorrow. As he was dropping me off I called my date and explained my situation. Luckily she still wanted to see me. I told her I would try to get my dad’ s car and drive over. I got my father’ s car and drove straight to her house. Along the way I texted all myf r i endst hatar epr omot er si nsout hbeachandaskedwhat ’ s going on? I got a few replies with several choices for parties that were happening. When I got to my dates location I noticed that the DHV stories I had told her about my car, etc. (Would be completely fake, since I am driving a different car.) I figured that I would just tell her I neededt ost opatmypar ent ’ shouset o pick up something. I did this because I wanted to remain congruent with the DHV stories I had told her in our previous conversations and because my car waspar kedatmypar ent ’ shouseandshewoul dgett oseei t .I ti sext r emel y i mpor t antt ost aycongr uentespeci al l ywhenyouhaven’ tevenmetbef or ei n person. The thing is if you are not congruent you will DLV (Demonstrate Lower Value) yourself extremely. After we swing by my parents house and I got whatever it is that I stop there for we started heading towards south beach. It was already around 2:00 AM since a tire flying off my car was not in the plans. I always say don’ tl et anything stand in your way remain come and continue living life like nothing happened. Think about it. If I got mad and let the accident end my night it PAGE:
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would of really sucked but now I got a girl with me and I am heading to a club. What could be better? Always a good idea to persevere! You can either see obstacles or opportunities. Here Speer sees an opportunity. Since it was already late I told her that we would be stopping by briefly because we should go back to my house for some drinks and fun. I explained that I wasn’ ti nt hecl ubmoodbecauseoft heacci dent .Sheunder st oodand happily agreed. When we arrived at the venue I texted my friend and she greeted us at the door and walked us to her VIP table. There was many girls there that I had hungoutpr evi ousl y.Ever yonewasl i ke“ Speer !Speer ! ” kissing and hugging me. There was immense pre-selection in the air, and my target felt it. I ignored her for most the night and paid attention to my social circle more. I did get her a few drinks and introduce her around before I disengaged and focused my attention on my friends. They missed me since I had not been out in weeks. After a while I crept up behind my target and started dancing with her. Slowly moving my hands up and down her body she did not resist at all. I decided to continue kino plowing and go for the kiss close. I ran my regular kiss close although I did not ask what she liked better I just started kissing, biting and tonguing her neck as I slowly escalated towards her lips. After a few minutes we were making out passionately while dancing. If it was there was a right time to bounce it would be now. Her buying temperature was threw the roof. I told her:
Me: L e t ’ sget out of here. Target: Why? Me: I want to go show you my pad before I have to bring you home besides the music is too loud here Target: nods I said goodbye to like 20 people. Kissing, hugging, and doing the normal goodbye before I leave a venue. Most of the time I even say goodbye to people I do not know. Like bouncers, bar tenders, door guys, valet guys, etc.
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The reason I dot hi si st obui l dmor eat t r act i oncues.Myt ar getdoesn’ tknow I don’ tknow t heseguys.I nhermi ndI know everyone in the venue this creates social alignments, and social proof. Social proof is always a good thing As we began driving through south beach I kept pointing out good venues to go to. She really liked that I was taking the time to teach her about all the cool spots in south beach. As I was talking I moved my hand on her thigh and continued to rub it. I did this so I can keep the vibe going, and keep her buying temperature high so I woul dn’ thavet odealwi t hal otofASD ( Ant iSl ut Defense) or LMR (Last Minute Resistance). When we arrived at Project Miami I started explaining to her what I did and who all lives here. As we walked in the house was quite. After all no one was home. I walked her into the kitchen and fixed her a drink afterwards I took her on a tour of the house. I took the time and showed her every nook and cranny. Girls are like cats that want to know where everything is. This makes them feel safe in a new environment. The more comfortable she feels the more inclined to comply she will feel. My tour of the house always ends with my room. This is a key point in end game logistics. If you give the girl a tour of your place when you bring her back, make sure the tour ends in your room. That way you guys can continue to hang out in your room without having to make the big move from the living room to the bedroom. As I we walked down the stairs and entered my room I immediately sat on my bed and she followed. I left the door to my bedroom open. This is yet another way to make her feel comfortable. A lot of guys I know especially ones with roommates get a girl into their room and immediately close the door. A girl feels very uncomfortable if you do that right away, she feels unsafe and/or trapped. Remember in order to sleep with a girl she must be extremely comfortable with you and her surroundings. Otherwise she might just back awayorgr ow col d.I twoul dn’ tbeyourf aul tei t heri t ’ sj ustanat ur albehavi or al set that is built into most of us. As we sat on my bed I started going through my identity grounding routines. I showed her pictures of me on set with different actors. I showed her my portfolio and a few books I was featured in. I played around and joked wi t hherbecauseshehadn’ tr eal l ywat chedanyoft hemovi esI was in. Slowly I bui l tmor ecomf or tusi ngmygr oundi ngr out i nes,I VD’ s( I nst antVal ue
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Demonstration) like the cube, magic tricks, etc. Then I pumped her buying temperature again by being cock funny and I went for the F-Close. On the way back to her house at 8:00AM I talked her into coming down to project Miami and staying with me for a few weeks before going back to LA (where she was from). She agreed and we had a wonderful two weeks together. Now I know that if I don’ tf eell i kegoi ngoutt her ei sal waysot her alternatives then just the numbers I picked up while sarging, there is MySpace, Facebook and many other sites. Just Remember: Make sure in the messages you construct you have attraction cues in place. Get the number as fast as possible so you can talk on a personal level Don’ tl etanyt hi ngst opyou,l i f egoeson. Don’ tset t l ef orwhatyoudon’ twant . Make sure you are 100% congruent with everything you say in the e-mails and/ oront hephone.Si nceshedoesn’ tknow you,youdonotwantt oseem incongruent from the start. On the first date try to DHV yourself and have as many attraction cues as possible visible to your target. Don’ tr usht hi ngs. To learn more about Speer check out www.Phaseshiftlounge.com
This is actually made up of two posts. One from when I called the lay ala Babe Ruth and the follow up after it happened. I've fooled around with internet game a little recently, I started off with some of Cajun's stuff off the attraction forum and then I tailored a bit and started to help out some of my friends with their profiles and messages. I have closed about 10 girls off of it in the last three months and I've met up with 12 girls off it. One of them was gross and I ditched her with the super quickness. I think internet game is too retardedly easy and a monkey could get laid if he knows how to write a good profile and has about 5 responses. I was working on a way to automate internet game with the collection of PAGE:
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messages I have from my experiments on various websites. But I have way too much to do right now. I have been writing profiles for students and their results have been really good so far. To get Sinn to write your online profile for you, email him at
[email protected] Now onto this particular instance this super hot girl hit me up on MySpace with the following message: I was looking around on this stupid (Internet Dating site) thing and I found you, but it said you hadn't been on in a while, so I looked up Dallas to see if you happened to be around where I’ m moving to and I found you on here! I promise I'm not a crazy stalker or anything! Just thought you were very interesting! and I'm moving to Texas next month and was wondering if you were still around? Sorry if this is weird lol... I just had to message you! I responded with a modified version of one of Cajun's online openers: Well I am fascinating... :) Seriously though you had me when you're about you blurb was about a lifted truck. I'm so adopting you as my country little sister... Don't worry, we'll spend all our time together climbing trees and drinking kool-aid. Actually you seem like a pretty cool person, I'd love to get together sometime and let you cook for me Ha! Ha! Her response: Well I mean, don't flatter yourself or anything Two things though, I won't be adopted as anyone's little sister, thank you. and I'm the worst cook in the world. Unless you're into cereal and grilled cheese...then I'm your chef :P Sorry about the truck thing.. It's just fascinating to me lol or maybe I'm a nerd? talk to you soon ;P My response:
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Oh you're definitely a nerd :) but you're kinda cute. For a nerd. This is the first indicator of interest I give her. One of the most common waysguysmessuponl i nei sbyseemi ngt ooi nt ot hegi r lt oof ast .Don’ tbe anxi oust ot el lheryou’ r ei nt er est ed.Makeherear ni t .How doessheear ni t ? By giving you indicators of interest of course. Gotta run... Going to Vegas. I expect a saccharine sweet message when I check back here :) This is one of my favorite things to do with women. Give them tasks. We all know that compliance is the key all pickups. So you want to look for any opportunity to test compliance. I do this by giving them fun little tasks. Her response: Hello darling! I hope your trip went wonderfully! .... Okay that's enough sweetness out of me for today. I hope to shatter this nerd image sometime in the near future, so you can pick another adjective if you want to. :) but it better be something nice. Seriously though, how did it go? I've never been there, sounds too big and busy for what I'm used to. You should just come to (Where she lives), instead! Well, I'm off to get more done to my tattoo yayyy Hurry back!!! My Response: I'm gonna give you a B+ for the sweet part of the message, but until I actually get to know you off the internet... You're still a dork! A kinda cute dork, but I digress. Tattoo eh? What did you get done? J ustsomel i ghtt easi ngandf l uf ft al k.Youdon’ thavet oconst ant l ybeusi ng a tactic or technique. Her response: Oh yay, a B+! Well that was more than I expected so good! At least you think I'm "cute" lol whatever the hell that means ha. I'll add you so you can see the rest of my retarded pictures and laugh.
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I pushed my date to move back a week. I'm getting a little nervous about moving all the way down there and knowing like 4 people...lol... I'm gonna miss my Momma :P ... But you seem to know your way around, so I'll be sure to ask you first! Here she tries to seed us hanging out in the future. This means she’ s hooked. Good luck on the rest of your adventure. I'd love to help ... lol... but unfortunately with gas being seventy dollars a gallon and I have a 16 hour drive, I'm not much to ya. As for my tat, I just got a long sentence going down my left side; from under my arm to the side of my hip. That one definitely didn't feel good. I just had to have a little bit filled in on it the other night, and eventually I'm going to have more shading and stars around it, to go with the five stars I already have. P.S. - thanks for not assuming me a total nutcase: P My Response: Oh man you're not rich?? Damn! You're messing up my lifelong goal of being a house husband. I could just see it now (Cue cheesy Jefferson’ s style intro music) I wake up pump some iron to show the little lady what she's paying for then watch my stories and have a massage... All crushed now :( Not only do I not think you're nuts, I might be dangerously close to developing an internet crush. Which I don't like so stop being cool! This internet crush thing is a great example of an SOI or statement of i nt ent .I ’ ml et t i ngherknow t hatshe’ sst ar t i ngt owi nmeover .Butbecause I ’ vemadeanescal at i onandI can’ tt akeadvant ageofi tphysi cal l y.I have to use a release to maintain the sexual tension. Her response: Ha well, I will be one of these days, so you can dance around to your Jefferson’ s style intro music and have all the massages you want :P And make all the movies you want! Don't give up on me so quickly! Ooooooh somebody likes me :P (Middle school singsong tune ... lol) Coming to visit me when I get down there?? :)
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Here I know I've gone far enough to get her on the phone as these things can easily fizzle over MySpace messages. So I give her a reason to call me as opposed to me trying to call her. With internet stuff I always try to make them get my phone number and contact me first that way I set the frame that they are chasing me from the beginning of the interaction all the way through. Here's my last response before getting her on the phone: I think like would be an overstatement for now... But you're growing on me :) You could grow even more by writing me a good luck text message before my open mic tonight. My number is xxx-xxx-xxx. There's gonna be like 100 people there tonight! Nervous!! From there I spent about three hours on the phone with her and exchanged a gazillion texts. She's actually a really cute, funny girl with the best accent ever. She's also smokingly hot she sent me nude pics and she's insane hot. So I convinced her to fly out (despite her being terrified of flying and only being on a plane once in her life before) here to visit me. I'm picking her up from the airport in about 2 hours and she's staying here until Thursday. I should fuck... I mean make sweet love to her tonight as I have closed every girl I've met off the internet except one and that was because I made the mistake of having her meet me out when I was already slightly intoxicated. I'll update the rest tomorrow, but I since I just got this text: This is kinda exhausting! Sheesh. I can't wait for your arms to be around me! :) I feel confident in calling the lay a la Babe Ruth. Tune in tomorrow to find out: Same Sinn time ... same Sinn blog. So she got here last night and was very tired. So we came back to my place and I gave her a back massage. One thing led to another and soon I was playing the tease, which I will write a post on ad nauseum soon. But it ended up with her giving me a little LMR until I whipped it out and then told her to play with herself until she couldn't take it anymore and begged me to fuck her.
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This is an addendum to the technique of just pulling out your dick. What I do now is encourage the girl to play with herself as well. It seems innocent like we’ l lbot henjoy this together, but girls cannot handle the arousal and it ultimately leads to sex. She's one of the 5 hottest girls I've ever been with. She used to work w@ hooters and currently is a Bacardi promo girl. She's also really sweet and fun to hang out with. She's here till Thurs so I probably won't update until after she leaves. Hope everyone is having as much fun as we are!
ONLINE GAME BREAKDOWN: Online game is useful for a couple of different reasons in building your game. The first thing that online game can help you with is getting started. A lot ofguyshavecr i ppl i ngappr oachanxi et y.Meani ngt heycan’ tevengetoutof the house or interact with women in any way other than the complete suppl i cat i ont hey’ r eal r eadyusedt odoi ng.Onl i necan help with this, because you can SAFELY practice teasing, breaking rapport, and be a little cockier. This can help you to work out the ins and outs of the beginning stages of game. You can also practice leading conversations. Now none of this will help much in the field but it can start to build your confidence with women and show you how women respond to different forms of communication. The second way online game helps you, is in practicing dates. Dates are a unique skill set unto themselves. I gave you what I consider to be the definitive rules of dating in the breakdown on dates at the end of the first chapter. But a lot of the times beginners cannot get dates for the first few mont hs.Sot heydon’ tgetachancet opr act i cet hei rdat i ngski l l s. It is way easier to get dates online than it is from cold approach. The reason for this is because any girl who spends a lot of time online or is on a dat i ngser vi cei sact i vel yl ooki ngt ohookup.Soi t ’ smucheasi ert ogett hem out and you can get a ton of practice, so that when you finally get girls on dat esf r om col dappr oach,you’ l lknow whatt odo. The last benefit of online game refers to my theory of three different streams. The idea for the three streams theory came from something I heard on a financial program one day. They said that the average millionaire has 7 different streams of income. PAGE:
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Naturally since I apply everything to game, I thought about how many different streams of women you would need to live a life of sexual abundance. After talking with other gurus like Brad P, Captain Jack, AFC Adam and more, I came up with the three streams theory. The three streams theory simply means that no more than a third of your goal girls should come from any particular stream of meeting women. Thus the ideal amount of streams is three. That means at any given time you should have at least three ways of meeting women. This can be any combination from social circle game, to being set up by friends to cold approach and online, etc. The idea is that for a balanced lifestyle you should be aiming to have at least three streams of women into your life. Online is the easiest one to establish. Ok,sonow t hatweknow whyweshoul duseonl i negame,l et ’ st al k about...
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MY 5 RULES OF ONLINE GAME Rule # 1: Youar eonl yasgoodasyourpi ct ur es.Let ’ sf acei tl ooksar eal i t t l e mor ei mpor t antonl i ne,becauseyoucan’ tr eadsub-communications. The flip si deoft hi si st hatyoucancont r olhow youl ooki nyourphot os.Her e’ show. Pick out 5 or 6 different photos of you in cool situations. I hate the pr of essi onalphot osunl esst heyar easceneoryou’ r eonanupscal edat i ng site. So find cool photos from your real life. Then put all of them on www.Hotornot.com . This is a cheesy dating site that allows users to rate people on a 1-10scal e.Ever ypi ct ur ewi l lgetadi f f er entr anki ng.I ’ ve personally been rated anywhere from a 3.6 to a 9.2. Pick the highest rated phot oandt hat ’ st heonet ouseasyourmai ni magei nyourpr of i l e. Rule # 2: Make your profile weird. This is the big difference between a god and bad profile. What we want to do online is differentiate ourselves from EVERYl amoguywhol i kest o“ angoutwi t hf r i endsandpar t y! ”Thi si swher ei t pays to be a little quirky and ironic. You want to have a few obvious jokes in your profile. In my profile I sayI ’ m“ ki ndal i keTupaceexceptwi t houtt hej ai l th thing and the thug life tattoos. ”I also list my interest as ranging from 18 century Russian literature to being pretentious. The idea is to stand out and seem different, and fun. Rule # 3: Show you’ r enott aki ngonl i nedat i ngt ooser i ousl y.Thi si skey. Even I a comic book nerd, thought internet dating was for losers. There is a definite stigma towards internet dating. It is considered by many to be the last st r aw i ndat i ng,havi ngr epl acedt hebl i nddat e.Soi t ’ si mper at i vet hatwe demonst r at et hatwear eonl i nef orsel famusementnotbecausewecan’ tf i nd another way to get laid. Rule # 4: Pick good titles for your messages. The title of your message is even more important than the content of the message itself. You have to be able to make the girl open the message to have any chance of getting her. You want to pick something that is funny, or intriguing, while staying away from anything too generic or lame. Some of my recent message titles have been.“ Ninjas are inf actbet t ert hanmonkeys.Don’ tknow aboutt hat ,I challenge you,et c. . . ”Ther e’ smor et ot hi s,but think embedded hooks. Rule # 5: Moveupt hei nt i macyscal e.TheSi nn’ sofAt t r act i onIntimacy scale f oronl i nedat i nggoesasf ol l ows.TheSi nn’ sOfAt t r act i onOnl i neI nt i macy scale goes like this. 1. Winks, pokes, etc.. 2. Messages on a dating or social networking site 3. Instant messenger 4. Text 5. Phone calls 6. Real life. We want to move to the phone by the third message. It becomes really hard to PAGE:
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set up a meeting online and eventually all emotional momentum is lost. The ideal pattern is one message to start the interaction, one to amplify the interaction, and one to close to the phone.
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