Paul Twitchell & Eckankar in 1969 - An Interview with Wanda Sue Parrott

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2013 Feb-Mar Email Interview with Wanda Sue Parrott Recollections about Paul Twitchell and Eckankar COPYRIGHT By Sean Arundell PTHA (published with permission) 2013-06-16 We had collected on the Paul Twitchell Historical Archive an undated newspaper article written about Paul Twitchell and Eckankar by journalist Wanda Sue Parrott that appeared to be around late 1968. I did an online search for her and found this site information. She is a former investigative reporter and feature writer with the Los Angeles Herald-Examiner http://amykitchenerfdn.org/wbiox.html This 1968 photo shows Wanda Sue Parrott being named Honorary Chief of the White Buffalo Tribe, an all-tribe workshop in Los Angeles. The photo appeared in “Medicine Power: The American Indian's Revival of His Spiritual Heritage and Its Relevance for Modern Man” by Brad Steiger (Doubleday; 1974) www.bradandsherry.com https://plus.google.com/105619724241890779905#105619724241890779905/posts It appeared that Wanda was contactable through the Amy Kitchener site, so I wrote them an email. -----February 25, 2013 Dear Wanda, I found your email address on this site: http://amykitchenerfdn.org/wbiox.html I am researching the life of Paul Twitchell and was hoping you may be able help with a few unknowns this end. In 1968 you wrote an article on Paul and Eckankar for the LA Herald Examiner. This is a scanned copy I have https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-M0yAR0UPhPRGFYX1JScHNUT1E/view?usp=sharing

Wanda, would you recall what DATE this was published? Do I have the complete text of the article in this scan? And would you like to share any recollections you have about Eckankar or this meeting with Paul? Warm Regards, Sean Disclaimer by Wanda Sue Parrott: "I hope the matters I have discussed about individuals or AMORC that are made public now will not get any negative responses. Any opinions I give are solely my own conclusions based on my own experience, not statements of blanket fact, and are not intended to make accusations of a libelous or slanderous nature against any person(s) or institution." Dated June 14th 2013

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To Sean Arundell 2-25-13 REMEMBERING PAUL TWITCHELL: MY INTRODUCTION TO ECKANKAR Thank you for your e-query about Paul Twitchell's interview which I wrote when I was a staff writer with the Los Angeles Herald-Examiner between 1968 and 1973. I do not have access to the original copy, which you show as having been published in 1968. That date seems a bit early for me, but I could be wrong. Here is why. In fall 1968, I covered some psychic experiments conducted by Richard Spurney, a teacher at California State University in Long Beach, in which a housewife from West Covina named Joyce Partise could tell what was inside closed brown paper bags merely by touching the sacks. This story about object reading ran in conjunction with local TV appearances by Spurney-Partise in which demonstrations were given on live television. In those days the religion and women's sections were linked in the second section of the daily newspaper, and the story ran in that section as a feature. All over So.California, and subsequently across the country, interest in such psychic phenomena was starting to rise as a new field of psychology was evolving on college campuses. It had been kicked off at Duke University by Dr. James Banks Rhine, who, along with his wife Louisa, invented a deck of Xener cards that contained five symbols that were used in ESP testing and the scientific world was paying attention. The person running the test shuffled the cards, then looked at them, one at a time, while the subjects wrote impressions about the symbol on each card. A score of one out of five correct answers was normal; a score above that indicated psychic ability beyond "chance." Symbols were: circle, wavy line, triangle, square and cross. This was the start off the new branch of psychological science known as parapsychology, or "psi" for short. I actually began in 1969 to seriously cover the parapsychology movement and psychic explosion. In the early 1970s it spawned such popular movements as transcendental meditation, Eckankar and other schools, ashrams and churches blazed into glory and then fizzled like falling stars. A few of them caught on and continued to grow. Eckankar was one of them. I am not sure exactly when Paul Twitchell and I had lunch together, but I remember that meeting. It was at Corky’s Bar and Grill on W. Seventh Street in downtown Los Angeles. He had a youngish baby face with amazingly clear blue eyes and a soft-spoken Southern manner. He was one of many so-called psychics and seers trying to get me to run interviews that would promote their programs. Among those I refused an interview was Uri Geller, a young Israeli who could bend spoons using telepathic powers. The only reason I agreed to meet with Paul Twitchell was because his name was familiar to me through publications I had read. Although I knew nothing about Eckankar, I was familiar with Paul’s name because of small ads he’d run throughout the sixties in Classified sections of magazines like ORION and FATE that catered to people interested

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in everything unorthodox and metaphysical, as opposed to scientifically proven facts, from UFOs and aliens to near death experiences (NDEs), out of body projections (OBEs) and spirit communications. Many of these small-press publications were spiritually slanted and religious in nature—just unorthodox by content, meaning they were not mainstream. They catered to truthseekers interested in everything from astrology to soul travel. It was a genre of quasi-reports and true confessions about everything from contacts with angels to prophecies revealed by God or his ministers about the future and of the world. The whole movement at that time was like a set of railroad tracks running from coast to coast. One track was comprised of orthodox psychological science and established religions and the parallel track was made up of unorthodox psychics, contactees, mediums and ministers of every faith but mainstream! The orthodox, or scientific, track was being laid slower than its counterpart. On the orthodox track were institutions that experimented again and again, with tedium, to prove their experiments got the same results time and time again before they could be called true, valid facts or laws. Among institutes on this track were the U.S. military, which was covertly experimenting with remote viewing as a means of psychic spying from long distance. The counterpart, or fast track, quickly bypassed the other, since it was comprised of those who did not present verifiable proof of the validity of what they were practicing or preaching, or selling; they sold what they had to sell and let others decide the truth to their claims. I sat across the table from Paul Twitchell and looked deep into his baby blue eyes and said “Paul, don’t try to bullshit me.” He was a salesman. Among things he’d sold were shoes. Paul knew I had his number, or suspected I had it, so the lunch was brief and pleasant, and we parted with no sense of having bonded. He did not sell me on Eckankar as an ancient science under that icky name. He told me that as a youngster in the south, he’d had an encounter with a being like an angel. My reporter’s nose for news sensed this was true. Whatever else he and a man named Darwin Gross were selling under the name of Eckankar was their twentieth-century product in which I wasn’t convinced he fully believed. Paul gave me a beautiful white leatherette book that had been written in calligraphy by a woman friend he called a chela in Las Vegas. I think her name was Helen, but could be wrong. It seems the title was “In My Soul I am Free.” [more likely The Anitya booklet] I had no doubt Paul had spiritual experiences, but also sensed he was trying to use my newspaper to promote his project and get rich. I liked Paul. I just didn’t trust him. Metaphorically speaking, the train running on that uneven track crashed when President Richard M. Nixon resigned his presidency in 1974 and America went into a cultural tailspin that was marked by pocketbooks being tightened and minds following suit. The entire psycho-spiritual movement that was exploding across the country suddenly and abruptly imploded. In other words, the great sweeping liberal open-minded psychic/spiritual explosion that coincided with the ending of the Vietnam War did an about-face and conservatism captivated the country and kept it prisoner until the Clinton era in the 1990s. Many upstart organizations died in the crush, but Eckankar, to my amazement, caught on and survived, reaching its foreshadow of success before Paul’s untimely death in 1971. I wonder, but cannot know, whether he died without realizing the fabrication he sold as truth was actually the real thing.

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I am not sure of the exact date we met. I do know in 1969 the first ESP Symposium spearheaded by Dr Thelma S. Moss was held at the Neuropsychiatric Institute on the campus of the University of California at Los Angeles (UCLA). Prior to that, whatever small writing I did on psychic subjects was published in the women's section. My major news feature of the weekend UCLA event in, I believe, July 1969, marked the debut of PSI as information worthy of publication in the news section of any major metropolitan newspaper in America, as far as I know. In other words, psychic and spiritual phenomena came out of the closet of religion, myth and superstition where the news media had relegated them, and attained a modicum of "legitimacy" when academia sponsored the conference which included educators who spoke on everything from the human aura and experiments with playing music for plants to documenting out of body experiences for participants in sleep lab investigations. Mind and potential soul were being taken seriously! But the soothsayers and propheteers/profiteers who rushed in flattened academia. Squashed it flat! Politics finished the job. The war-weary public leaped onto the ESP [PSI] bandwagon and soon a spate of quasi-religious movements was spawned, not by universities and colleges, but from grass roots people like Paul Twitchell. What Paul sold worked, because countless practitioners of Eckankar around the world today can claim that in their souls they are free—and I believe them. After all, during that era when I interviewed Paul, I was known by 1971 as California’s Psychic Reporter! Wanda Sue Parrott February 25, 2013

Here’s a photo of Paul about the time of this interview: 1968-11 2nd Eck World Wide seminar Las Vegas https://docs.google.com/file/paultwitchell/

I replied to Wanda Sue Parrott

February 26, 2013 Hello Wanda, Firstly, thank you very much for replying. More than that I really appreciate the time and effort you have clearly put into giving me this information and your personal insights. […] in the article it mentioned "mushrooming in 3 years" from Oct 1965 .. which places this circa Oct 1968. the book In my Soul I am Free was published in 1968 before Oct. Helen Baird says in the article she had been in Eckankar for 2 years ..... and I thought she had joined in 1966 from other hearsay info.

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But the 300,000 members made no sense for 1968, even as an exaggeration, for things didn't grow until 1969 as far as numbers are concerned. By early 1970 Eckankar had shifted to a non-profit religious org as well ... (and was never as many as 300,000 members or even books sold before 1971) So your comments tend to confirm my "feelings" that this was published circa early to mid-1969 instead. Seems doubtful it was in 1970, given the timing info in the article itself. If you can narrow the time frame by the Season in 1969 even that would be helpful. […] === Wanda Sue Parrott responded with February 26, 2013 Sean, I am on deadlines and must be swift, but I am glad we connected, and I thank you for letting me express my feelings about Paul, because I never had anyone to whom I could say those things and even tried writing a fiction piece about a guy who began sincerely, created an organization and got involved in internal structural problems and politics and, in effect, sold his soul hypothetically, and while he was a physical success, he died feeling like a phony, never realizing that what he had phonied up to sell as truth actually was truth, although the trimmings were fabulous or non-fabulous fakes. I was never able to pull the piece together. Now it is out of me. When I told Paul not to pull any bs on me, he didn't. I respected that. And he knew I had his number. Between the time I lunched with Paul and his death, I know he was involved with beautiful women and think he was married at that time, and Darwin Gross took on some kind of eastern-sounding title and I believe was called Sri, plus took an eastern pasha-style name... my memory is what I am relying on and I am nearly 80 so could be wrong... was it Rebezar Tarz? (sic) I have vague recollections of some internal problems in the organization and Darwin Gross becoming Paul's successor or contender for control. My memory of our meeting places Paul in a lightweight suit and tie. The suit was of light color, such as a gray or blue, and this would make it a spring or summer suit. In those days men wore seersucker and other light-hued fabric in the warmer months. I am sorry, but I tried to blow up the article on my computer so I could read it, but only could get the top, so I am not able to comment on contents below the top because I don't remember exactly what I wrote. It was clipped and filed in the morgue in those pre-computer days and the date should have been stamped or written at the very top. In your example, it appears to have been blanked out. Helen Baird was a volunteer artist, a devotee called a chela, I believe, who helped kick off the Eckankar movement and who seemed devoted, and I sensed she was in love with Paul. I never met her. The Los Angeles Public Library might have a file. The old Los Angles Herald-Examiner files must have been stored somewhere, since you got access to this clipping. I have not been so lucky. My last contact with the management from that Hearst Corp. newspaper was George R. Hearst, Jr., from whom I got a Christmas card each year until last year. He died last July.

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Let me know if I can be of further help. Good luck. Are you writing a history of Eckankar? Are you a member? I am a Rosicrucian. Have been for 50 years! Wanda ===

I replied to Wanda February 27, 2013 Hi Wanda, Attached a copy of the article here for you to read. Changed the title to 1969 … seems more likely to be correct. Warm regards, Sean 1969-01 Herald-Examiner LA Paul Twitchell interview - Soul Travel Thousands Join Up by Wanda Sue Parrott.jpg URL https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-M0yAR0UPhPRGFYX1JScHNUT1E/view?usp=sharing

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Wanda Sue Parrott replied to me later that same day. February 27, 2013

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Sean, thanks so much for attaching the article in the paper in a format I can read. I note in the lower right corner an ad for mink at a January sale, so this piece probably ran at the end of December 1968 or early January 1969, and my thought that it was in spring could have been wrong. I had forgotten a lot of info in the piece. Judging from the sound of the feature, it could have run on a Saturday in the religion section. Much of what Paul said about Eck applied also to the Rosicrucian Order, to which I then belonged, having joined in 1963. Each such movement had its own terminology. Years later when I attended my one and only Eck meeting in Springfield, Missouri, the intonation of vowel sounds in a circle was just like a ritual in which we participated at our annual conventions in the 1990s. I must sign off until later, Wanda ====

February 27, 2013 OMG Wanda, January sale .. that's so funny. Well we missed that completely. I am happy to call it as January 1969. It still makes sense about his suit though, may well have been mild weather in LA at that time. […] The main focus I had was to locate all kinds of original (historical) materials, and compile these on a public website so people could *look for themselves* and make their own decisions of what xyz might mean to them without being "told". The late 2000s explosion in digitised books, journals, archives and old items for sale on ebay etc all online meant myself and my friends interested in this project soon were finding more and more historical materials. Your article is one that popped up along the way published online back in 2003. I believe it is a digital scan of a photocopy of a photocopy of the original newspaper. I doubt the date was intentionally obscured. These kind of things are like gold. All tiny pieces of a jigsaw puzzle. The second goal was to make a Timeline of "verifiable' events. Much more evidence of his plagiarisms has come to light as well. I suspect the Rosicrucian materials could also be some of his sources. The archive now has over 2100 files from original book cover photos to whole ebooks. 3200mb all up, and a website that I am trying to finish off now as a directory to this material. Way too much work involved, many long hours. […] [end email] === Wanda’s reply

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February 27, 2013 Sean, I loved your e-mails, but am old and am zonking right now. My webmaster has cancer, and this fact alone stymies me, since I am an e-klutz. So I will be real brief now and will go into more detail when the sun is high in the sky! First, you are definitely a Rosicrucian, whether or not you ever joined an org by that name. How do I know? You are a walking question mark. Second, yes I know Brad Steiger. I am 78 and he is a couple of years younger, so you need to subtract a few years off his life. He is not 90 yet. His original birth name was Eugene Olson or Olsen but he changed it after having past life experiences in which he was a German aviator in or around World War One. Before becoming a fulltime writer, he was a school teacher in Iowa, where he still lives. He changed his name legally. Brad is an honorable, private and spiritual man, and one who stays out of controversy, which is probably why he declined an interview. I have never known him to say a bad word about any human, even if he knows someone might not be quite "kosher" or qualified for the honors bestowed on him or her. In journalism, this is known as protecting one's sources. He also has a great sense of humor, which he shares occasionally with friends. He and I have been friends since 1973 when I interviewed him for the Herald-Examiner. He was a giant of a writer in his day... was with the major publishers. We did a few things together; that is, I contributed to his books. The last one was a couple of years ago. It was a paperback in which people's true Christmas memoirs were published. My pay was a free copy of the book. By daylight, as time permits, I will answer your points more fully. Thanks for sharing and for your zeal. In the RC Order, such a person is known as a Zelator! It means one with enthusiasm and energy!! Time to zonk. I am very glad we met!! Wanda ====

I responded to Wanda: February 28, 2013 Thanks Wanda :-) You take it easy .. at the end of the day, this topic isn't that big a deal in itself. […] I was disappointed in Brad not even being interested in clarifying a few things and giving a hindsight 2012 version of his personal knowledge.

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Many had made various claims about what Brad had said to them ... many eckists *blamed* him personally for all the disinformation in IMSIAF book and not Paul. I simply wanted to clarify Brads own view for the *record* vs the myths and rumours. […] Thank you again! Sean ==== A while later Wanda Sue Parrott emailed with the following social religious history summary in America. Twitchell—continued March 3, 2013 Sean, my subtle impressions about Paul were a combination of familiarity with his name, social class in the south and civil rights, and the tempo of the times... or perhaps "cycle" would be best. About every one hundred years, there is a major breakthrough of a spiritual/religious nature. In the mid 1800s it resulted in Spiritualism being born along with a bunch of offshoot religions and movements, which included Theosophy. This happened right after the Industrial Revolution and continued after the Civil War. There were religions that caught on, like Mormonism and Unitarianism. The Jehovah's Witnesses and Seventh Day Adventists also were offshoot cults of Christianity. The deep south of the US was and still is quite fundamentally Christian, with the Southern Baptists ruling--and they basically were and possibly still are highly prejudiced against blacks. In the deep south, from which Paul Twitchell came, lowest-class whites were considered superior by those who were most prejudiced to the most refined and elegant blacks. There were deep class divisions among southern whites, from the lowest level called "crackers" of "poor white trash" to the southern belles and colonels of lore--and I have no way of knowing, but sensed intuitively, that Paul Twitchell did not come from the upper crust class. He impressed me as being more from a family of share croppers than former plantation owners. I also sensed he had a genuine spiritual awakening/initiation at a young age, the same kind of phenomenon that caused countless people like you and me to seek movements like Eckankar and the Rosicrucian’s. .. and that gave people like the Amish or Mormons a holier-than-thou glow of spiritual beauty that made them look younger than their years. It is called an aura or halo of sanctity. It is the same sort of inner radiance an elderly person suffering the final stages of dementia expresses--a line-free glowing face that has a saintly look... like translucence... although the mind behind it is blank. Spirit is ubiquitous and, therefore, ageless and people with that look appear ageless. Paul was probably about fifty, or maybe a bit older, but he had that sort of glowing look about him. [He was 59yrs] I know he said he had sold shoes. I think, but cannot swear, that he also sold bibles, but that might just be an

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impression I got because he came from the Bible-thumping deep south ... a culture that gave me shudders on my spinal column. He was trying to sell experience that he called "the ancient science of soul travel." It was the same subject a West Virginia businessman named Robert Monroe had written about in his personal memoir about his journeys out of the body. They were matter-of-fact documentations that tried to sell nothing to anyone--until a few years later. I was highly disappointed to learn that Monroe had organized an institute and was charging people to join. The same with Edgar Mitchell, the astronaut, who came back to earth and shared some numinous experiences from space, and then founded a non-profit known as the Noetics Institute. All major religions started that way. One person had an experience that was of a sublime nature, talked about it, developed a following and soon a religious movement was founded. It happened with Jesus. It happened with Mohammed, and Islam followed. Joseph Smith saw an angel, as did Paul, and The Church of the Latter Day Saints ensued, as did Eckankar. EVERY FOLLOWER IN THOSE RELIGIONS IS A NON-EXPERIENT... BASING HIS OR HER LIFE ON SOMEONE ELSE'S EXPERIENCE. JESUS, IF WHAT IS REPORTED IS TRUE, DID NOT START A CHURCH. HE SAID, 'THAT WHICH I HAVE ACCOMPLISHED, YOU TOO CAN ATTAIN." HE WAS IMMORTALIZED BY FOLLOWERS AFTER HIS DEATH AND THE PEOPLE WERESOLD CHRISTIANITY. When Paul (and Darwin Gross) organized an institution and then gave themselves fancy titles and positions, they stepped into an arena someone described as: If you want to destroy truth, organize it as a religion. At first it must have been fun, exciting, challenging and evolutionary, and a good thing that appeared successful-like building a fictional land as in The Hobbits--and if Paul was from a lowest-class southern socioeconomic level, he finally made it up the social scale by succeeding in climbing the socio-economic ladder. That is only an assumption, for I never pursued the subject. Was he nouveau riche? Possibly, if it is true he had 300,000 members in Eck. [as per the article] AMORC claimed to have 250,000 members, only a small percentage being of the higher degrees. Much of the bursting forth in those days of unheard of movements of an esoteric nature happened in the late 50s and early 60s, and were obviously spawned by breakaway Rosicrucians. An example: Earlyne and Robert Cheney, who founded The Astara Foundation in So. California. The Brotherhood of the Adytum (BOTA) was another. It was Rosicrucian in most ways except it used the Tarot as symbols, which AMORC did not. Yet another called itself the Mayana. As with all these modern movements, the best way to sell people on joining was to add the elements of mystery: the groups were ancient, secret and held knowledge only insiders could obtain... to gain power over fate! The Rosicrucian Fellowship in Encinitas, which was already well-established, taught esoteric astrology, which AMORC did not. Attainment of Cosmic Consciousness was the goal of the neophyte who crossed the RC threshold when I did in 1963 and its mode of achievement was through attunement and partnership with the Master Within (one's soul)

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and it worked wonders for me... but we also studied through various degrees, including the fifth--the degree of philosophy--the sixth, the degree of healing, and the seventh, the degree of projection (which Paul called Soul Travel). Today, a school of healing known as Reiki utilizes principles and practices that were, indeed, secret back in 1915 when H. Spencer Lewis first introduced Rosicrucianism in N.Y. From then until his death in 1939, he was called a fraud and all sorts of battles went on in which people tried to horn in on his success or gain power. Aleister Crowley was one of them. HSL was accused of being a fraud, and as Imperator, he claimed to be the only person to whom the position had been entrusted. Did he make up the term? I don't know. Early publicity claimed Sir Francis Bacon was imperator in the 16th century. Good publicity sales pitch! The term Eck Master is probably true, if Paul worked out a system of projection through the center of one's forehead that works, but was the he living master in a long line of now-dead ones? Or was he the first ECK master in a movement he founded in the 20th century? I suspect the latter is true, even if what he teaches is accurate and will work--but for what purpose is it important to be free to travel out of the body? We will all do so soon enough when we go through transition. In Rosicrucian publicity, the sales pitch was that AMORC is "Traditionally the world's oldest fraternity" with roots going back to ancient Egypt. The mission statement was, when I joined: To enable all to live in harmony with the creative forces of the universe. Although we swore to keep secret the exact laws and principles as shared with us, there was no law that said we could not revise them and teach them our way in the profane world, meaning mundane, world around us. We simply could not steal by plagiarism the exact presentations given to us. I have had the opportunity to read other branches of Rosicrucianism's rituals, including the Golden Dawn, and their rituals are almost the same as the ones in AMORC. And the OTO, with Aleister Crowly, had similar rituals except they were far more explicitly sexual. AMORC was the mild, conservative branch--which is a good thing for me! I left AMORC after the split, and went with Imperator Gary L. Stewart into the Confraternity of the Rose Cross. He has spent all these years repairing the damage done to the monographs of Dr. H. Spencer Lewis by restoring the teachings to their original state as HSL taught them and he has also set us straight on the actual history of AMORC Rosicrucianism. It does NOT stretch all the way back to Pharaoh Akhnaton's time, in an unbroken line of succession. It started in the 17th century in Germany and its constitution is the Fama Fraternitatis. I figured out for myself that HSL set AMORC up as a huge real estate deal that benefitted his family, for the Imperatorship could only pass down to his heirs. And the Imperator was spiritual head as well as president and the order was NOT democratic. That is, members did not have a vote in operations. HSL served for 24 years, dying in 1939. His son Ralph served exactly twice as long, 48 years, and died without an heir, so he named Gary L. Stewart. Ralph and I became close friends. He was a man of tremendous integrity who never profited from his position. Upon succeeding Ralph, young Gary attempted to clean up the operations of the order, establish a bona fide degree-granting university--and make insurance available to members, and that is when all hell broke loose by those who were manipulating the money... Gary was accused of embezzlement, which was later disproven, a Frenchman stole it, had the old articles of incorporation nullified and new articles drawn up.

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So the AMORC to which I belonged no longer exists. I live one hour from the headquarters, but never go visit. I no longer feel a connection. Gary went sideways, without the burden of property, money and membership, and a few of us went with him. We are the Confraternity of the Rose Cross. It is only natural that ECK should undergo similar growing pains. After all, the term Mahanta sounds suspiciously like Mahatma. And, when thinking about the validity of the organization, ask yourself which is more important: proving the organization is a fraud, or having your own genuine experiences? To have the latter, just sit in meditation and follow the silent voice to the center of your own being, for truth lies within. Life, Light and Love, Wanda === Wanda email to Sean Twitchell—continued March 5, 2013 Sean, you really did your homework!! I found the 1931 yearbook Class Prophecy both fascinating and very well done. If Paul was 18 in 1931, he would have been born in 1913--three years after my mother. But if he were 58 in 1969, he would have been born in 1911, just a year after my mother, meaning he was 19 or even 20 when he graduated from high school. Average age for a high school graduate in this country is 18. I was 17. My dad was from the south, and he was 20 when he graduated from high school, which was not unusual for kids who worked on farms and could not attend school for a steady 4-year term. By 1931, hobo jungles were all over the United States, necessitated by the vast poverty and unemployment of the Great Depression. Ironically, homelessness in the US is, today, a major problem, and vast numbers of the homeless have campsites similar to the one in that prophecy. However socializing is different now than it was then. Young people stay connected by e-devices, and the human need to be in groups has shifted to e-mind-group contact. I think the electronic age, if not other circumstances of change, are the real reason for declining church and fraternal, and mystical/metaphysical group memberships. Thousands might attend a rock concert at which the music is so loud the attendees cannot talk or hear very well, but would not think of attending a Rosicrucian convocation or Eck meeting. And everyone, from around age 4 up to ? have electronic devices... Me? I have, but don't know how to use, a cell phone. I actually prefer to tune in to the universe because it's the real thing! I cannot personally conceive of a satisfying relationship between an old man and a young girl, but lots of old men marry young girls. Paul seems to have been one of them. My former husband was one of them, too; he married a teenaged runaway when he was in his mid-fifties. The marriage failed. Do you have any idea what happened to Gail?

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Thanks for sharing. If Eckankar is on the decline, it's because the human social scene and modes of expression are changing. If the cycles of time hold true, there will be a resurgence of interest in the mystical/metaphysical-within the framework of the generation's forms of expression--starting around 2045. And a new infusion of interest and energy will cause another scene that's ripe for groups like Eck and AMORC to reincarnate under new forms and names. What an exciting time it was! Aren't you glad we were part of it? Wanda 1931 High School Class Prophecy https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-M0yAR0UPhPTVdkMTg4RGlOMTQ/view?usp=sharing =====

I replied to Wanda March 5, 2013 Hello Wanda, Thanks very much for this and taking the time to do. --Wanda then responded with: Sean, this is fascinating and very well done. You got me hooked. If Paul was born on October 23, 1909, he would have been one year older than my mother, and would have been 21 at the time of the high school graduation in spring 1931. That is a bit old for a high school senior, unless he had been sick during childhood and/or held back so he had to repeat grades. Bravo and thanks. Wanda ====

A few days later I emailed Wanda and asked: March 8, 2013 Hello Wanda Sue, Hope ur well over there. I was curious about something, and wanted to know what ur 'objective non-eckankar pov' thoughts were about that graduation article. How does that strike you in regards what the *in group* of the High school eg the author who was a graduating student then .. and the overall feelings they had about Paul Twitchell.

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It looked to me as if it was very much a "put down" of Paul .... yet others see it as showing how "popular and liked" paul was ... being the central character. many anecdotes and recollections of people who knew paul at HS are really positive ... he was a task master in sports training, but fair, and good fun, they say. That's fine, everyone has their friends and like minded group at school ... looks to me that many liked him, and others didn't. To me that's normal. But some have tried to make things out as if Paul was always *admired* and respected. It looks to me that its common to have blind spots. It's a funny article though, well done. how did you read it regarding how they saw paul? Thanks Sean ---

Wanda Sue Parrott responded:

March 8, 2013 Sean, sorry if I must be brief. The thought crossed my mind that maybe Paul Twitchell wrote that Class Prophecy under a pen name, so I suggest trying to find out if the guy whose name appeared on it actually was a student of that high school/class. If no such real person can be found, I would be willing to bet Paul wrote it under a pen name. [Article appears to be written by a classmate Burgess Scott who is listed on the class roll with Paul] When I was living with my cousin Margaret, she married a man we knew who was a fabulous storyteller, only he wrote a story and passed it off as fact and made a fortune for doing so--and he, too, was hard to pin down because he lied a lot. You might have heard of him. His name was Carlos Castaneda. He wrote the Don Juan series on a Yaqui way of life. I moved out after they got married. Like Paul, he changed his age. When I first knew him, Carlos was about a decade older than me and by the time he died, he was at least a decade younger... A decade before I met Paul, I told Carlos point blank not to pull any stuff on me because "You cannot have my soul." And so he left me alone, married Maggie, and went on to fool the faculty at UCLA which granted him a doctorate in anthropology, and the world which was hungry for heroes, esp. mystical one that could turn into a crow or otherwise shape shift. Mankind is in quest of magic, not knowing that each of us is a magician--just as the greatest hero figure of all time said. Jesus admonished people to do that which he had accomplished. Humans look for super heroes and/or gods... and those who try to fill such roles are like spiders in the webs... bitten by the black widow spider of Self deceit. Paul and Carlos both found themselves elevated to godlike status they could not fulfill, which is probably what killed them. Shakespeare put it this way: Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive. Also, you are welcome to using anything I wrote, but I would appreciate your sending it to me for a look see before you post it.

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By the way, your summary of the 4-Americas in one was excellent, and quite accurate. No need to apologize for it is true! Wanda =====

I replied to Wanda with a few more queries. March 13, 2013 Hi Wanda, Hope all goes well with the website. My computer passed away last week. Have yet to replace it. Technology is great when it is working, but a real drag when problems arise. In the long run things might be better though. Wanda I've thinking about some of the ideas you floated about Paul Twitchell. eg knowing he may not be able to live up to the claims he was making, and guilt etc. I am wondering about the long term affects on Paul personally of the situation he found himself in by the 70s. […] And … I never looked much into Castenanda, though am aware of him. I was surprised to see he didnt pass away until 1998. I thought he was from a much earlier time. I saw on wikipedia that a margaret runyan was his wife in the early 60s, who i assume is the cousin you mentioned. He seems to have the exact same issues that follows Paul (and many others) with plagiarism and suspicious *history* and the like. This seems quite a common issue for such individuals and groups and how critics respond as well. Must be in human dna or something. :-) I was surprised about seeing a Toltec connection, and Miguel Ruiz was mentioned. I quite like the Ruiz books. I hope all is well with you. Regards Sean

--And … In sept 1970, Paul was supposedly poisoned (belladonna maybe or like that) in a glass of orange juice by a chela in Spain, when he went to their place or hotel to give a "reading" or something. No one else was present, and they story goes it took him months to recover, or never really did. A year later he died from a heart attack. […] More curious about your own feelings of how much pressure could you see coming up for Paul as Eckankar became more successful, and yet still many arrows kept coming his way and so on.

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He had spoken about 'depression’ and struggles and being homeless at times ... and he seems 'sensitive' emotionally and over-reactive during his life. You seem quite more experienced than I in this field overall ... I do not expect any definitive answer of course, only what your sense of this might suggest as "possible" given your other insights.

Sean ====

Wanda replied soon after: March 14, 2013 Sean, we are having some major power outage problems... I will be brief. CARLOS CASTANEEDA AND PAUL CAST THEMSELVES AS THE SAME TYPES, AND PAUL SEEMED TO THRIVE ON PUBLIC ATTENTION WHEREAS CARLOS WENT UNDERGROUND AND INTO SILENCE. CARLOS USED TO SAY TO THOSE WHO WERE LOOKING FOR A SPIRITUAL LEADER, 'DO NOT MAKE OF ME A GOD. PAY HEED TO THE LESSONS I TAUGHT YOU.. IT IS THE LESSONS, NOT I, THAT COUNT." BUT HUMANS NEED HERO FIGURAND SO CARLOS AND PAUL HAVE JOINED THE PANTHEON OF PSEUDOSAINTS, BOOSTED AT FIRST BY HIS OWN NEEDS AND THEN HOISTED, PRAISED, PINIONED AND EVEN CRUCIFIED BY THE MINDS OF OTHERS. PAUL GOT TRAPPED IN THE TANGLED WEB HE WOVE...and so did Carlos. I SUSPECT ECKISTS ARE REWRITING ECK INTO WHATEVER THEY WANT AND NEED IT TO BE. I HAVE A FRIEND WHO SWEARS HE SAW REBEZAR TARZ IN A BATHROOM. HE WENT IN THE MEN'S ROOM AND WALKED OUT THE WOMEN'S ROOM--AFTER PASSING THROUGH THE WALL. Those who made of Eckankar a religion probably did the same as the UFO buffs did--THEY MADE JESUS A SPACE BROTHER WHO CAME TO EARTH ON A SPACE SHIP... THEY REWROTE CHRISTIANITY TO SUIT THEIR NEEDS. Paul might have done the same...AFTER ALL, THERE ARE AS MANY IMAGES OF JESUS AS THEIR ARE MINDS TO BELIEVE IN AND CONCEIVE OF HIM... I AM HAVING AN AWFUL TIME TYPING ON THIS SCREEN, SO MUST CLOSE FOR NOW...WILL TALK LATER. HOPE YOU GET THE COMPUTER FIXED OR A NEW ONE THAT DOES NOT COST A FORTUNE. IF THE COMPUTER IS DOWN, HOW ARE YOU DOING E-MAIL? Can you imagine a world in which Jesus is not the most famous and revered figure of all time? SUCH A WORLD WILL EXIST IN THE FUTURE, IF MAN DOES NOT UPSET NATURE SO MUCH THAT THE PLANET PULLS A POWER PLAY THAT WIPES US OUT. IN SUCH A WORLD, WHERE WOULD MEN LIKE CARLOS, PAUL AND THE POPE FIT? MAYBE AS RELICS DELEGATED TO A DARK AGE OF IGNORANCE THAT PRECEDED A TRUE AGE OF ENLIGHTEMENT. YEARS AGO I WROTE FOR ORION UNDER THE NAME WANDI LOZIER, WITH A COLUMN CALLED 'ASK WANDI," AND I WISELY ENDED IT BEFORE PEOPLE CONSIDERED ME OF THE ILK PAUL STROVE TO BECOME... I DO NOT REGRET

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HAVING KEPT MY SPIRITUAL LIFE PRIVATE--WELL, MOSTLY PRIVATE. Some of it is coming out now--now that I am old and getting ready to go! BYE FOR NOW. WANDA Re: Do you believe the focus of many thousands of people placing their attention onto Paul would have any psychic affects on him? YES. THEY EXPECTED HIM TO BE EITHER A SO-CALLED DIVINE BEING, OR GOD, OR A FRAUD. ---

Wanda continued: SEAN, PAUL COMMITTED SUICIDE OF HIS PRIVATE SELF WHEN HE WENT PUBLIC AND ALLOWED HIMSELF TO BECOME A PUBLIC FIGURE... EVEN IF HE STARTED OUT TO SINCERELY BE OF SERVICE, THE GLITZ AND GLAMOUR WERE TEMPTATIONS, AND MARRYING A YOUNG WIFE EVEN ADDED TO THE STRESS. SO WHETHER HE WAS POISENED FROM A PERSON OUTSIDE HIMSELF, OR HIS OWN MENTAL MACHINATIONS DID THE TRICK, HE DID HIMSELF IN BY WEAVING THE WEB IN WHICH HE GOT TANGLED. A HEART ATTACK IS THE ULTIMATE OUTCOME OF AN UNBALANCED LIFE THAT IS FRAUGHT WITH PAIN, SORROW, REMORSE AND LONELINESS... AN EMPTY LIFE DESPITE OUTER FULLNESS. YES, AND NO. HE DID COMMIT SUICIDE EVEN IF, NO, HE DID NOT PULL THE TRIGGER OR TAKE THE PILL. THAT IS THE FEELING I HAVE ON THE MATTER. WHY DID GAIL MARRY HIM: why did he marry Gail? Both of them used the other to get something they thought they needed at the time. Part of your answer might lie with Gail. You said she got a $500,000 settlement of some sort. Was she a gold digger who married a vulnerable old man? What are the basic precepts of ECK? The teachings themselves. If they are valid, then all else is flotsam and jetsam on a human sea of cacophony--enough to drive one nuts if he/she listens to it too long. Tra la la... listen to the birds' songs... they are truth tellers and far more wise than Eck. W

Wanda then sent me some other information via email.

Logos Insight March 15, 2013

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Sean, I was proofreading for the publisher (Great Spirit Publishing) of this book... and am excerpting a few pages. I believe that everyone has his or her Logos, by whatever name it is called, and when too much confusion enters the brain, one suffers the so-called tangled web, which could be what happened to Paul. Such happens when the Child of the Shallows tries to be the Old Man of the Deep and fails, which can result in radiation of the rays scrambling and virtually frying the brain and screwing up the body. I am sending the art of this statement in a separate e-mail. This book is slated to be released in about a month. The old man of the deep, the cover, is symbolic of a portrait of Logos. Wanda

Some extracts: WANDA SUE PARROTT, a retired journalist and writing teacher, was born in 1935 in Kansas City, Missouri, but grew up in Southern California. She became a professional writer by starting as a technical writer in the aerospace industry, then switching to freelance magazine writing and journalism. While a reporter with the Los Angeles Herald-Examiner in 1974, her first book, Understanding Automatic Writing, was published by Sherbourne Press. In 1988, she returned to the Midwest, where she continued her newspaper career in Springfield as both writer and editor with Senior Pages and Senior Living newspapers. After retirement from journalism in 2000, Wanda founded the non-profit literary society known as Amy Kitchener's Angels Without Wings Foundation, sponsor of the internationally known National Annual Senior Poets Laureate Poetry Competition for American Poets age fifty and older. She has a Chickasaw ancestor and has been an Honorary Chief of the White Buffalo Tribe since 1968. She sometimes uses “Prairie Flower” as a pen name. Wanda has won many literary awards as journalist, poet, and author. Her hobbies include yodeling, dancing, and raising cats. She now lives near her son Teddy and his wife Eva in Monterey, California. Wanda Writes: How the Dialogues Began As a home-study student member of the Rosicrucian teachings since 1963, I was well-aware of references to the endocrine gland system as "our invisible guardians." I was also vaguely familiar with eastern philosophy that depicts areas of the body as "chakras" (also called “psychic centers''). My boredom in a Laundromat in Studio City, California, in 1980, turned to intrigue when I wondered: Are the chakras and endocrine glands the same, but known by different names in eastern and western vernacular? While in this reflective state I heard voices within my mind. Such voices are actually thoughts, usually silent in nature, although occasionally an auditory sound accompanies such thoughts which often take turns expressing ideas from opposing points of view. My musing suddenly took a new twist: Can I interview my inner self by asking a question, then making notes of all thoughts or impressions received in response? I flipped my notebook open, turned my focus of concentration inside my own body, posed a question, and started writing just as I usually did while interviewing someone for a newspaper story. Eureka! I struck a vein of symbolic inner gold in the vast unmined territory known as "Self." By the time my laundry was dry, it was almost midnight, and I was just warming up.

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The next morning, and for nearly twenty more years, I continued filling notebook after notebook with information I call “Logoia.” Nothing was edited or revised. If Irving had not shown interest, all the pages would have eventually wound up in a Dumpster. Irving rescued this body of work. A few excerpts of the multitude of writings are contained in this manuscript prepared by my good friend and co-partner in the quest for greater understanding. Irv Rosenberg’s interest and encouragement inspired me to continue exploring the wonderful aspect of my body's intelligence, identified as “Logos W” (meaning Logos of Wanda), which sometimes communicates to “Logos I” (meaning Logos of lrving), just as if they are two invisible friends exchanging meaningful chit chat that is always sensible and straight to the point. I interpret Logos to mean "Logic.” Wanda Moves to Springfield, Missouri In October, l988, my personal life did a quick about-face. I received a call from my mother in Springfield, Missouri. She advised that my elderly father had deteriorated to the point she needed help in keeping him at home. I said I would come, so I gave away most of my belongings to facilitate my move to the Ozark Mountains. At the nudging of Logos, l boxed all the handwritten and a few typed dialogues, then shipped them all to Irving in Union, New Jersey, which surprised him, since I had not informed him of my shipment. Since that time, he has diligently typed my writing, including those I continued to send in response to questions he asked of Logos W. Logos has served me as the "voice" of an inner guardian, guide, and guru, but never as personal fortune teller or soothsayer. As guardian, Logos is the source of intuition that warns me of possible danger, and has guided me to build a successful career as a writer and investor.

LOGOS WRITES AS: The Patriarch (aka OLD MAN OF THE DEEP) (In this Q & A Dialogue, W. refers to Wanda and L. refers to Logos.)

--L. That is all for now, except I wish to remind you of this fact which you appear to have forgotten. May I? W. What fact? L. I have not put it this way before, but you and I are closer than you realize. I am like a being behind a door and you are like a being before the door. I am within, in communion with the Deep. You are outside, and cut off from communion with the Deep.

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I am as an elder in the body and you are as a child. As you mature and grow taller and stronger, symbolically speaking, you have more strength and desire to open the door and enter the chamber wherein I repose. And so you have knocked and it has been opened unto you (this is a saying some of your religious studies brought to mind, and I use it as an analogous term in reference to our dual cooperative work through the Pituitary chamber). I run the working of everything from the inside. It is you who are the outsider. But only when you knock and the door is opened can I use voice to speak to you while you yet remain outside as the child who is doing business with our outer world. You are the child of the Shallows. I am the Old Man of the Deep. You brought me forth by evoking me, but do not be deceived, for in truth it is I who makes it possible for you to know you exist. Without me, you would cease to be. You are as my child and Venus’ child, for your consciousness is the birthchild of our combined light, which is the essence of the radiation fused. As you and the rest of us – the aspects of the unity – merge in the open doorway, the outer light will stream in and the inner light will stream out, and total integration shall result in the many aspects merging as one, and the unity shall cease to be and the whole shall proceed – and OUR WHOLE shall be what some call The Transfiguration. You may rest on this, and we shall proceed with discussion of particulars when you are again ready to knock, and the door will be opened, ask and you will receive, and as I have spoken to you, so may each seeker of light so receive when the child approaches the father (masculine) within and listens to the Voice, The Logos. Many are called but few are chosen, for the simplest truth is: few choose to ask. Belabor yourself not with guilt and doubt, but rejoice, for you took the step. You knocked. Now, rest. Our body has work to be done. W: Thank you. L: You are welcome.

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THE EDEN DIALOGUES (final version) JUNE 29, 2008 The Oneness Center INTRODUCTION BY WANDA As most of you know, I am a professional writer. I've published under 18 pen names in many fields, including aerospace technology, newspapers and magazines, and as an author of several non-fiction books. I am a diversified writer because I also write poetry and short fiction, all of which have contributed to my income during my nearly

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half century career. But one area of writing in which I have not earned a living—although I have published two books in this genre—is Automatic Writing. Without going into a lot of personal details, I'll just explain AW as: unplotted, unplanned writing that flows freely, almost as if it is writing by itself. It is the easiest form of writing, since the writer merely holds a pen or pencil, or types directly onto a keyboard. Sometimes thoughts come as inner dictation; other times, the writer has no idea what is being written until he or she reads it back. Some AW comes in dreams, but is usually forgotten when the dreamer awakens. When poets are inspired to write poetry that flows, it's called Meeting the Muse. When psychopaths like Ted Kuzinski are driven to write hate manifestoes that justify bombing of innocent people, it's called Psychotic Behavior. When men like Moses, Mohammed and Joseph Smith, claiming to be under the direction of God or angels, inscribe words that become the Truths followed by multitudes, they are called Prophets and religions are founded after them. When a person like me performs automatic writing, it's called My Personal Experience. I don't ask that you believe a word of it, but hope what you are going to hear today will perhaps move you to have AW experiences of your own. 2 Like Dream Interpretation, AW can help you discover your own Higher Self as Inner Guide, so you need not let others' interpretations or experiences substitute for your own. Your own inner guide is right for you. May mine help you on your own path. Al Baker is going to assist me in presenting three pieces of Automatic Writing that are among the most-current dialogues in which I have engaged. Entitled “The Eden Dialogues,” this series was written in answer to a question posed by a long-time writer friend, Joan Clarke of North Carolina, in April 2008. Al will read the part by Logos, the identifying name of the so-called intelligent consciousness of my Pituitary Gland, the master gland of the body, as answers to my questions flowed through automatic writing. I will portray myself as I conducted these dialogues in much the same way I interviewed persons when I was a newspaper reporter. If time permits, and you are interested, we will then read from the original Dialogue with Logos, written April 29, 1980 in which this Mind of my Master Gland first describes “his” nature. Over the past 28 years, I have changed. Logos, for the most part, has not. Since the dialogues began in 1980, thousands of pages of handwritten yellow legal-pad pages have been sent to attorney A. Irving Rosenberg, founder of the Psychic Studies Institute, New Jersey. He categorized them, had them typed, and is currently preparing to publish a collection of the Dialogues. These Eden Dialogues, which will be part of the series, is presented in public today for the first time. We welcome your comments and questions. [end extracts] MIND According to Logos: The Brain Reveals Its Own Secrets: What Neuroscientists Would Like to Know Paperback – April 24, 2013 - by A. Irving Rosenberg Esq. http://www.amazon.com/MIND-According-Logos-Reveals-Neuroscientists/dp/1482375052

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Wanda wrote again: March 15, 2013 Sean, the little quotes are excerpts from various dialogues with Logos. No matter whether a person is Catholic, atheist, Rosicrucian, etc., the basic info in the dialogues generalizes the nature of being a conscious human person... it might help shed some light on Paul and the changes he went through, and how/why they happened. Wanda

and again: March 15, 2013

Sean, I am having trouble with Outlook, plus am dancing all day tomorrow and cannot be long, but you mentioned thyroid trouble. According to Logos, the Thyroid is a duad... that is a set of twins that share a function... I don't recall offhand if it is a split duad as far as polarity goes, one side function as negative and the other as positive-- equivalent of male-female. Over the years I did thousands of these dialogues, and Irving patiently collected and typed and arranged them by subject matter--and presented papers on this work at psychological, mental health and psychiatric conferences. I never went or got into the spotlight after my initial prominence as California's Psychic Reporter. Fact is, I went to Arizona and hid out for three years to overcome the public's expectation that I was a fortune teller! ... the only reason I could perform well and sustain such performance was that I retained my privacy... unlike Paul and Carlos. Fame can be disastrous. Now that I am old, I can probably handle it, but will never publicly demonstrate a dialogue with Logos... The diagrams of the triangles are wonderful if one can read the dialogues that go with them... if Irv and I live long enough, maybe we can publish some of them. Al and I once performed a dialogue at the Oneness Center in Springfield, Mo., my only public performance along this line. If I can find it, will attach it. If you get this without an attachment, you will know I could not find it. Now, time to get ready for tap dancing with a troupe of oldsters. We are performing at a nursing home tomorrow. We put on a show fit for off Broadway! Wanda ======

A little while later Wanda wrote again:

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April 2, 3013 Sean, keep up your good work and stay posted from time to time! The research you did on Paul may one day prove to be far more valuable in a factual way than you ever dreamed... The only way a person could put such time and energy into such research is if he/she had the free time in which to do it, so there are always reasons happenings occur that we might not anticipate or want. Eckankar offered a substitute or alternate form of spiritual reality in a world possessed by tradition that is outdated on one hand and being rediscovered on the other. Only 1 in 5 Americans professes a religion, yet all humans have spiritual needs. So the Eckists are the kind of spiritual family they make, not something Paul did. He gave them the start, but whether it grows or dies is up to them. I think you are far more active in e-communications than I am. The internet is something I can take only in small doses and they grow smaller, the more I taste what is out there, which seems mostly to be gossip and opinions. It is good to know your four kids are fine, and a sorrow to know your marriage did not work out. Mine did not either, so I share that experience with you. In the US, the hot topic is gay marriage. I have no opinion, since I have always rather feared marriage because it involves making promises that might be impossible to fulfill. It is simply an artificial institution. Good luck and best wishes. Wanda

THE END By PTHA Ed 2013-06-16

Disclaimer by Wanda Sue Parrott: "I hope the matters I have discussed about individuals or AMORC that are made public now will not get any negative responses. Any opinions I give are solely my own conclusions based on my own experience, not statements of blanket fact, and are not intended to make accusations of a libelous or slanderous nature against any person(s) or institution." Dated June 14th 2013