La Entrevista de Investigación en El Campo de La Subjetividad

 

Kiz, B. (9111). @i gmtrgvasti eg amvgstanilaüm gm g` libpo eg `i sukfgtavaeie. Gm6 Fiaeir A. Li`gaeoslopao eg sukfgtavaeiegs. Luiegrmos eg` Uapa : Báxalo6 WIBZ.

 

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J oy gm eai gs rg`itavibgmtg rg`itavib gmtg lob um gml omtr omtrir ir `i uta`a uta`azilaom zilaom eg gmtrgvast gmtrgvastis is lobo gstritgnai praoratirai o lobp`gbgmtirai gm eavgrsos prolgsos eg amvgstanila amvgst anilaom. om. M Moo okstimtg oks timtg,, `i drglugmlai eg su uso (timto (ti mto gm g` tgrrgmo eg `i amvgstanilaom solai` lobo gm eavgrsos libpos eg` trikifo l`amalo) mo gs nirimtai eg vi`aegz y buljo bgmos eg jobongmgaeie gm luimto i `os prgsupugstos prgsupugst os qu qugg sostagmgm `i prilta priltali li eg `i basbi. Jiy J iy b uljos tapos eg gmtrgvasti, timtos lobo amtgrprgtilaomgs rgspglto i gm qug lomsastg gstg amstru b gmto , lui`gs lui`gs som sus sus dumeib dum eib gmto s, piri qug q ug sarvg sarvg y lobo lob o sg uta`a uta`azi. zi. @o

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qug pugeg pug eg fuzni fu znirs rsgg i toeis `ulgs s amsudalagmtg amsudalagm tg um gmtrgvastis, rgportg eg e g amvgstanilaom amvgsta nilaom gs qu g` gsabp`g gxpgeagmtg eg `ulg eglar qug sg usirom yi qug gs gquavolie gqua volieoo isubar qug gst gstis pugegm tobirsg lob o sa sa egmob amirim umi tglmali qug vi`g por sa basbi, amegpgmeagmtgbgmtg eg su irtalu`ilaom lomlgptui` lomlgp tui` lom `os prolgs prolgsos os qu g prgtgmegm gstuea gstueairsg irsg y eg u mi rgd`g rgd`gxaom xaom ilgrli eg `i dorb do rbii eg gmtg gmtgmeg megr`i r`i y opgrir`i. opg rir`i. Lrggbos qug q ug gs mglgsi mglgsirao rao pirtar eg` jgljo jgljo eg qu g `i gmtrgva gmtrgvasti sti lob o easposatavo easposatavo eg amvgstanila amvgstanilaom om tagmg qug sg sgrr amtgrroniei, amtgrroniei , lob lo b o pirtg eg` gfgrlalao gfgrlalao lrat lratalo alo qug qu g su pom g lom struar `is `is lomealaomgs piri proeul pro eular ar i` i`num num lom lomolab olab agmto gm g` tgrrgmo tgrrgm o lagmtadalo. lagmtadalo. Bis ium, iu m, pirtab os eg `i aegi eg qug `i satuilaom eg gm gmtrgvasti trgvasti pugeg lomsaegrirs lomsaegrirsgg lobo pirieanbitali eg` ilomtglgr eg `o jubimo y eg `is abp`alilaomgs tgoralis y gtalis eg `i amtgrvg amtg rvgml mlaom aom psal psalosola osolai`. i`. Gs eglar, `i gmtrgvasti gmtrgv asti po mg eg rg`agvg `i tgmsaom qug qu g ngmgri `i `i lom lomd`ugmlai d`ugmlai eg eastamto eastamtoss pr prolgsos olgsos jgtgrongmgos -provgmagmt -provg magmtgs gs eg eabgmsaomgs timt ti mtoo eg `i jastorai ameavaeui` lob o lo`glta lo`gltavi vi eg `os iltorgs iltorgs abp`alieos abp`alieos-- gm um gml gmlugm ugm tro amtgrsukfgtavo. Sor otro `ieo, `i gmtrgvasti gm trgvasti lob lo b o tglmali eg amvgstanila amvgstanilaom om a`ustri `o qug qu g tapali tapalib b gmtg gs umi satuilaom amtgrvgmtori amtgrv gmtori (`o lom lomtrirao trirao i umi rglo`gl rglo`gllaom laom mgutr mgutrii y gstimeir'be gstime ir'beii eg eitos) gm `i qug g` gmtrgvastieo gmtrgvastieorr gmtri i dorb dorbir ir pirtg iltavi eg` prolgs prolgso, o, eom eg g``g``i g``g``i b asb o`i rgsu`tim rgsu`tim g` g` amstrub ams trub gmto pramlapi`8 pramlapi`8 eg ija qug rgsu`tg rgsu`tg gsgmla gsg mlai` i` iltuir lojgrgmtgbg lojgrgm tgbgmtg mtg egseg `i lob lobprgmsaom prgmsaom eg `os prolgs prolgsos os gm fugno y e g `i l`iraeie sokrg lob o lo`olir lo`olirsg sg gm `i satui satuilaom laom,, ``is is dami`aeiegs Srjori-amvgstanie ori, Egpir Egpirtibgm tibgmto to eg Geulilaom Lobumalilaom, WIB-Zoeuba`rm.

 

qu g sg pgrsanugm qug pgrsanugm y sus `abatilaomgs. Lom Lo m kisg kisg gm gstis rgd`gxa rgd`gxaomgs omgs mos propomgbo pomg boss gm gstg gstg trikifo gxp`ori gxp`orirr ``ii lugstaom lug staom eg `i gmtrgvasti ukalimeo`i ukalime o`i gm eoss libpos6 eo libp os6 g` eg `i amvgstanilaomy g` eg `i sukfgtavaeie, sukfgtavaeie, amtgmti amtg mtime meoo bostrir `i `iss oplaomgs lomlgptui`gs lo mlgptui`gs qug supomg sup omg y `is `is lomealaomg lomeal aomgss eg su uta`azilaom. uta`azilaom.

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dami`aeiegs eg `i gmtrgvasti6 gmtrgvasti6 lomsaegrilaomgs lomsaegrilaomgs bg bgtoeo`on toeo`on alis

E alg Fosg K`gngr K`gngr (91>16 9; 9;)) qug `i `i gmtrgvasi gmtrgvas i gs u m amstrubgm amstrubgmto to dumeibgmti` dumeibgmti` eg`` b gtoe eg gt oe o l`amalo lom g` qug qu g sg posaka`ati pos aka`ati `` ``gvir gvir `i vaei eairai eai rai eg` eg ` sgr jubimo i` mavg` eg` lomolabagmto y `i g`ikorilaom lagmtadali , i` basbo tagb po qug q ug piri su rgi`a rgi`azila zilaom om ssgg ip`ali ip`ali gm i`numi i`num i bgeaei bgeae i t ` lomolabagmto. Gsto egravi egravi gm g m `i eok`g lomealaom lome alaom eg gstg amstru amstrub b gmto, gmto , yi qug q ug gstg rgquagrg rgquagrg timto `i lobprgmsaom eg `os prolgsos qug gstim gm fugno luimeo mos lo`olibos gm `i satuilaom eg gmtrgvasti gmtrgvasti lob o amvgsta amvgstanieorgs nieorgs eg` libp li bpoo eg `i `iss lagmlais lagmlais solai` solai`gs, gs, lob lo b o g` g` poegr dumeib dume ibgmti gmtir, r, egseg g` g` pu mt mtoo eg vasti vasti eg `i proeullaom eg lomolabagmto, `o qug `i samnu`iraeie eg um prolgso gspgla gspg lada dalo lo eg gmtrgvasti gmtrgvasti bu bugstri gstri sokrg `i lomealaom jub ju b imi. im i. Gm rg`ilaom rg`ilaom i gstg u`tabo pumto, pu mto, jiy qug qu g sgdai` sgdai`ir ir qug g` p`imtgir qug `i rgi`az rgi`azila ilaom om eg um mub mu b gro `abatieo eg e g gmtr gmtrgva gvast stis is (y qug lomtristi lom `i ibp`atue ib p`atue eg `i bugstri eg umi um i pok`ilaom gm `i ip`alilaom ip`alilaom eg gmlugstis) gmlugstis) gs um prolgeab prol geab agmto bgtob gtoeo`onalib gmtg vi`aeo vi`aeo piri illgegr i` gstueao eg prol prolgsos gsos qug qu g gxlgegm `i gspgladalaeie eg `is pgrsomis gmtrgvastieis, supomg qug sg sostagmg gsi isparilaom ispar ilaom egabagmto `iagmto priltali lagmtadal lagmtadali i eg tr trislgmegr islgmegr p irtalu`ir piri pro eular eu lar i`num lo molab lomol rg`itavibgmtg rg`itavibg mtg ngmgri`azik` ngmgri` azik`g. g.`o pirtalu`ir Tgibos, K`gn K`gngr gr jik`i eg` b gtoeo gto eo l`amalo8 sanmada sanmadali li `o l`amalo egseg g` pumto pu mto eg vasti vasti bgtoeo`on b gtoeo`onalo? alo? \g rgda rgdagrg grg i` gstueao eg `i samn samnu`iraeie u`iraeie eg um liso (s (sgi gi um ameavaeuo gspgla gspglada dalo lo o um i satuilaom sola solai` i` lomlrgti) gm `i lobp`gfaeie eg su gbgrngmlai y lomstatulaom. \a gm um proyglto eg amvgstanilaom g`gnabos lobo vai eg illgso i `i gxp`orilaom gbparali `i gxpgragmlai y `i pi`ikri eg e g sufgtos gspglad gspgladalos alos gxprgsieis gm um lib li b po eegg amtgrillaom eg` qu qugg sob os pirtalapgs pirtalapgs lob o gmtrgvast eorgs`amvgstan eorgs -ti` lob lo b o `o lom lomdanuri danuri `i satuilaom satuil aom eg gmt gmtrg rgva vast stii-,, gsto sanmadali qug qu g poegbos irnub gmtir su pgrtamgmlai pgrtamgmlai y lomealaomgs lomealaomgs eg vi`aegz vi`aegz lob o prilt priltal alii

lagmtadali, lagmtada li, lomsaegrimeo lomsaegrimeo qug q ug umo eg `os proposatos proposatos ilgptieos gm gst gstg ib kato gs `i kusqu ku squgei gei eg `gygs `gygs o pramlap p ramlapaos aos ngmgri`gs ngmgri`gs.. @is dorbis bgtoeo`onalis qug jim triaeo i prabgr p`imo i `is samnu`iraeiegs, `is `` ``ibieis ibieis lui`atit lui`atitavis avis , egpgme egp gmegm gm eg um trikifo triki fo imi`atalo imi`atalo

 

y um i prok`gbitazilaom prok`gbitazilaom lomlgptui` qug qu g pgrb ati rg`ila rg`ilaomir omir g` llis isoo samnu`ir -gspgladalo, egmso y satuie satuieoo por egd egdam amal alaom aom-- i jorazomtgs eg lob lobprgmsaom prgmsaom qug `o trislagmegm. Gs eg egla lar, r, ``os os gstuea gstueaos os qug op tim por g s t s vais vais mo sg inotim gm `i egslraplaom, lob o tibpolo tibpo lo gm g` sabp`g iportg eg bitgrai bitgrai`gs `gs imgleotalos imgleota los o movg movg`g `gsl slos os.. E g i`numi b bimgri imgri ipugstim ip ugstim i `onrir i`numi amtg`anaka`aeie `anaka` aeie mo so`o sokrg `os jgljos samnu`irgs i `os qug sg tuvo illgs illgso, o, samo sokrg `os `os prolg prolgsos sos bis ib ibp`aos p`aos lom `os qu g sg tgfg ``ii solageie y `i lu`tur lu` turi. i. Siri Si ri dumeib dumeibgmtir gmtir g` vi`or eg `o samnu`ir gm g` tgrrgmo tgrrg mo eg `i amvgstanilaom mos ukalirgbos ukalirgbos g m g` lib libpo po e g `i sukfgtavaeie, lobo lob o pgrspgl pgrspgltavi tavi ttgoral goralii qugg pomg qu po mg eg rg`a rg`agvg gvg ``ii mglgsaeie eg prok`gbitazir prok`gb itazir `os prol prolgsos gsos solai` solai`gs, gs, gm dorb i ti` qu qugg puge pu geim im supgrirsg `os `os vagf vagfos os rgeullaomasbos rgeullaomasbo s (psalo`onasb (psalo`onasbos, os, solao`onasbos) y `is pgrs pgrsast astgmtgs gmtgs imtamobais qug ji jimm pok`ieo g` pgm pgmsibagmto sibagmto solai`, ti`g ti`gss llob ob o ``is is eg amvaeaeuo/solage amvaeaeuo /solageie ie y sukfgtavo sukfgtavo/okfgtavo /okfgtavo.. @i @iss molaomgs eg suk fgtavaeie y sufgto mos lo`olim imtg `os prolgsos eg lrgilaom eg mgs sgmtaeo y im tg g` g` gsti gstituto tuto eg `i lomealaom jjub ub imi qug gs g` pisifg pisifg eg `i mituri`gzi mitur i`gzi i `i `i lu`tu ri, b bum um eo sol solai ai`` jas jastoralo toralo qug lomsastg lomsastg gm tribis eg sanmadalilaom egseg `is lui`gs sg vgradali `i gxpgragmlai jubimi. Sugeg oksgrvi oksg rvirs rsgg qug g` basbo tg rbamo rb amo eg sufgto jik`i eg um sostgm vaika`azieo por `is `is nrupi`aeiegs qug eim dorb i i `i vaei sola solai`8 i`8 gs eglar, jik`ir eg e g su sufgto fgto gs ji jik`ir k`ir eg vam vamlu`o lu`o lo`g lo`glta ltavo. vo. @i sukfgtavaeie sukfgtavae ie sg ngst ngstii gm gs gsii pirieofi eo eome megg `i dumla dumlaom om eg su sufgtilao fgtilaom, m, lomtgmlao lom tgmlaomm y sostgm qug prov provgg gg g` ttgfaeo gfaeo solai` solai`,, gs lom lomealaom ealaom ddum umei eimtg mtg eg `i sukfgtavilaom, sukfgtavi laom, prolgso eg eadgrgmlai eadgrgmlailaom laom sam g` lui` mo m o gxasta gxastarai rai `i lrgilaom eg lu`turi y eg amstatulaomgs. G` sufgto, i` i` lo lomstatuarsg mstatuarsg lob o iltor sola solai` i` (y iq iqua ua sufgt suf gtoo pugeg rgdgra rgdgrarr i umi pgrsomi o i umi lo`gltavaeie), gsti rrgvg` gvg`imeo imeo um gxlgegmtgg eg sg gxlgegmt sgmtaeo mtaeo , um bis i` i``i `i eg `i `iss vala valasat satuegs uegs pirtalu`irgs qug `g eim dorbi i su gxpgragmlai, y qug rgbatg, lobo eglaibos, i `i eabgmsaom lo`glt lo` gltavi avi qug porti lob l oboo bagb kro eg `i ssola olagei geiee jubim i. Gsti eabgmsaom eg `o lo`gltavo lo `gltavo lom lomtagmg tagmg vira viraos os p`imos p`imos66 g` ore oregm gm sab sabko`alo ko`alo rgprgsgmtie rgprgs gmtieoo por g` `gmnuifg gm tim to lib po trimsameavaeui` por gxl gxlg` g`gml gmlai ai88 `is `is ams amstatulaom tatulaomgs, gs, qug lomstatuygm lom statuygm gg`` lib po morbitavo y g` tgrra tgrratorao torao eg `i amtgrsukfgtavaeie,

eg `i nrupi`aeie. nrupi `aeie. Gsto Gstoss p`imos s om dume imtg imtgss y sostg sostgmm e g `i samnu`iraeie, ggss eglar, eegg `os prolgs eglar, prolgsos os eegg eadgrgmlailaom g ameavaeu ameavaeuilaom ilaom.. Gm gsg sgmtaeo sgmtaeo,, I. Eaiz-Kirrani 9119) sostagmg qug quazi g` rgdgrgmtg lomlgptui` bis abpo rtimtg pi piri ri eir dume ib gmto i ``ii gmtr gmtrgvas gvasti ti i produmeaeie gs `i lomdorbilaom eg eavgrsis tgorais eg` sufgrto y eg `i sukfgtavaei sukfgt avaeie, e, tg tgora orais is qug qu g sg jim mutraeo mutr aeo eg eastamtis easlap`ami easlap`amis, s, egstilimeo g` psaloimi`asas, `i imtropo`onai, `i solao`onai y `i `amnuastali. Gstg iutor

 

sukriyi g` g` vi`or vi`or eegg `i gmtrgvasti lob o um gsp gspila ilaoo eeom om eg sg lomstatuyg `i posaka`aeie eg rglrgi rglrgirr umi gxpgragmla gxpgragmlai, i, lo lob b o lo lomfu mfu mto eg sa sanmadalieos nmadalieos y sgmtaeos sgmtae os eg `o vava vavaeo eo . Q ea ealg6 lg6 Gstos gstim trispisieos por sus propais vavgmlais pgrsomi`gs, pgro gm otro sgmtaeo amtgnrim umi eabgmsaom b s ibp`ai6 `i solai`. Lom `i gmtrgvasti i produmeaeie amtgmtibos illgegr i ibkis sanmadalilaomgs6 `i propai y `i solai`. Ibkis gbimieis eg` ibkato eg `i amtabaeie y lom u m sgmtaeo b s ibp`ao eg `o qug jikatui`bgmtg sg rglomolg lobo pgrsomi` 911969>3). Lagrtis tgora tgorazila zilaomgs omgs lomtgb porim porimgis giseg eg `i solao`on solao`onai ai ukalim i` ameavaeu ameavaeuoo lob o umi lomstrullaom so sola lai` i` , eg eomeg eom eg ssgg egeulg qu qugg toe o sufgto gs portieor port ieor eg su lu` lu`tu turi ri,, i ``ii v i qug u m g`gbgmto ilt iltavo avo eg trimsd trimsdorbilaom orbilaom potgmlai` potgm lai` eg `i basbi. basb i. @i sukfgtavaeie sg vgradal vgradalii gm gs gsii lomtrieallaom lomtrie allaom e om eg g` ipgno i `os `os loeanos y ``ii tgmegm tgm egmlai lai i lomng`ir `o gstik`glaeo logxastgm lom umii lipilaeie um l ipilaeie eg rgd` rgd`gxa gxaom om sokrg gg`` bum b umeo eo y sokrg sa basbos eg `os `os sufgtos. M o jiy qug o`vaeir o`vaeir qug g` sufgto mo gsti lom lomstatuae statuaeoo gm dorb dorbii egdamat egdamatavi8 avi8 por g` lomtrirao, lomtri rao, gm su lomealaom gsgmlai gsgmlai`` eg kusqugei y eg lrgil lrgilaom aom eg sgm tae taeo, o, gxprgsi gxprgsi `i `ulji `ulj i vati` -bu -buyy eam ib ali y vu`mgr vu`mgrik`gik`g- gm gs gsgg posalaomib agmto qug gs ``ii rg`ilaom rg`ilaom eg` sufgto llomsano omsano basb o, lom lo m `os otros y lom g` bu meo. Gs `o qug ``ibibos ``ibib os g` g`posa posalaomibag laomibagmto mtosukf sukfgta gtavo, vo, qug qu g puge pugegg `ggr `ggrsg sg lob o u m gbgrngmtg gm gsi gsi irtalu`ilaom irtalu`ilaom eg `i sukfgtavaeie sukfgtav aeieyy `os prolgsos solai`g solai `gs, s, lob o ilomtglabagmto ilomtglab agmto jastoralo qug surng kif kifoo lagr lagrtis tis lomealaomgs pgro qug rgvg rgvg`i `i umi lui`aeie lui`aeie mugvi. Gsti dorbi eg `glturi pgrb atg rgspomegr i umi prgnumti dumeibgmti`6 fluia gs `i dami`aeie eg `i gmtrgvasti eg amvgstanila amvgst anilaom? om? Gstg proposato tagmg qug sgr gseirglaeo y idarbieo idarbieo,, porqu g ija sg egda egdamg mg `i dorb dorbii lobo g` amvgstanieor sg ukali drgm drgmtg tg i `i prok prok`gb `gbitali itali

gm gs tueao y i `i proeullaom eg` lomolab agmto. \a g` g` proposato gs proe proeular ular b bitgr itgrai` ai`gs gs qug mos pg rb rbatim atim u m il illg lgso so i `os gmtrib ieos ieo s sabko`alos qug qu g som g` sostgm eg `i gxpgr gxpgragmla agmlaii jub m y eg e g gsti b imgri gstueair gstue air prolgso prolgsoss eg `i suk fgtavaei fgtavaeiee sola solai`, i`, gmtoml gmtomlgs gs ssgg fustadali fustadali `i g`gllaom g`glla om eg bg bgtoeos toeos lui`atit lui`a titavos avos eg\a,amvgst amvgstanila y e g rgqugrabo ams amstrub trub gmto gmtos lob `i gmtrgvasti (ameav (ameavaeui` aeui` o nrupi`). por g` ganilaom ` lomom trirao, s seit eitos os o, rg`ilaomir viraik`gs o gstabir `is bgeaeis ngmgri`gs y ikstriltis eg umi pok`ilaom, gmtomlgs op optib tib os por gstr gstritgna itgnais is luimtatitavis. @i eglasao eglasaomm gs trislgmegmtg y egpgmeg eg `i l`iradalilaom eg `os okfgtavos eg umi amvgstanilaom, sokrg g` pramlapao pramlap ao eegg vi`aeilaom qug qu g sg rgda rgdagrg grg i `i lojgrgmlai amtgrm i eg `i `i basbi.

 

@i irtalu` irtalu`ilaom ilaom gmtrg tgorai, tgorai, b gtoeo`onai y tglmali \gnum sg sg egsprgmeg eg `o qug qu g vgmaibos ealagmeo, `i prgbasi prgbasi b gtoeo`onali gtoeo`on ali kisalii qug kisal q ug egkg e gkg nuair um easgm easgmoo eg e g amvgstanilaom gs gs `i pgrta pgrtamgmlai mgmlai eg` bgtoeo bgtoe o i` okfgto eg gstueao. Egseg gstg gmumlaieo pugeg rgsu`tir a`ustritavo g` gxibamir g` vamlu`o gmtrg eos g`gbgmtos l`ivg qug dorbim pirtg eg `i gstrulturi eg` bo eu`o lom qug amalai g` g` trom lo e g `i `i Lirrgri Li rrgri eg Ssalo`o Ssalo`onai nai gm `i WIB-Zoljaba`lo6' sukfgtavaeie y gmtrgvasti gm g` lomtgxto eg `i amvgsta amvgs tanila nilaom om qug q ug prop pr opom omgg gsg gsg pronribi eg gstueao gs tueao i`rgegeor i`rge geor eg `os prolgs prolgsos os eg `i sukfgtavaeie sukfgtavaeie abp`alieos gm lagrt lagrtis is bimadgst bimadgstila ilaomgs omgs psalos psalosola olai` i`gs gs e g s lob o `os b atos, g` pgmsib agmto binalo, g` g` irtg y `i rg`ana rg`anaom. om. G` prabgro prabg ro e g `os tgrbamo s bgmlaomieos bgmlaom ieos ipumti i` okfgto tgoralo tgoralo qug lomdorbi lomdo rbi g` g` lib po eg gstueao propu pro pugsto gsto ( `os prolgso prolgsoss eg proeullaom proeul laom eg e g `i `i sukfgtava sukfgtavaeie eie )8 g` sgnume o rgdagr rgdagrgg i` amstru a mstru b gmto sungraeo piri egsirro``ir egsirro``ir `i amvgstanila amvgstanilaom om boeu`ir. G` supugsto qu g gstrulturi `i `i propugsti prop ugsti gs gs ``ii lob pitaka`aeie `onal `onalii `os p`imos p`imos tgoralo g amstrub amstru b gmti ` egseg g` g` pumt pu mtoo eg vasti vasti y lomlgp tui` gmtrg `os eg `i proeullaom proeullaom eg lomo labagmto. lab agmto. Gsto abp`ali, mituri`b gmtg, i ` oregm bgtoeo`onalo, gs eglar, i `i gstritgnai y dorbi eg iproxabilaom g`gnaeis piri gxp`orir gxp`orir egtgrb egtg rbamie amieii prok`gbitali prok`gb itali y, gm u`tab i amstimlai, i` pirieanbi pirieanb i o b oeg`o oeg `o lagmtadalo i` i` qug ieslrakg liei amvgstanilaom. W mi prabgri prgnumti p rgnumti i gmdrgmtir sgra sgraii `i rgdgra rgdgraei ei i `i g`gllaom eg `i tglmali, tgl mali, gs eglar, eglar, g` g` porqu g `i `i gmtrgvasti gmtrgvasti sg sg lomsaegri um amstru b gmto aeomgo aeo mgo piri pi ri egsirro``ir egsirro`` ir `i `i amvgstanilaom boeu bo eu`ir `ir gm g` b irlo eg` prok`gbi prok`gb i gfg qug qu g ornimazi ornimazi su easgd easgdao, ao, gm otris pi`ikr pi`ikris, is, sokrg qug r b m i b ag m to sg prava prava`g `gnai nai `i gmtrgvasti

sokrg otris tglmalis tglmalis,, `os `os lugstaomiraos lugstaomiraos por gfgbp`o. Ugmgbos qug sup omg r qug i `i kisg kisg eg `i `i propugsti b oeu`ir oeu `ir sg gmlugmtri gmlugm tri um lom fumto eg prgbasis, prgbasis, supugstoss tgoralos supugsto tgoralos y gpastgbo`onalos qug egkg sgr imi`azieo imi`azieo y easlutaeo piri poegr p oegr posalaomirsg posalaomirsg iltavibgmtg iltavib gmtg imtg `i amvgstanilaom. amvgstanilaom. Srgnumtirsg Srgnu mtirsg por `i irtalu`ilaom gmtrg `os mavg`gs tgoralo, bgtoeo`onalo y tglmalo gs eg dumei b gmti` abp ortimlai piri egsirro``ir egsirro``ir `i lipil aeie e g vana`im vana`imlai lai gpastgbo`onali gpast gbo`onali qug qu g p`imtgi p`im tgi Kiljg Kiljg`ir `iree (91:< (91: