Jack Ellis - Total Orgasm Power
March 18, 2017 | Author: omran97 | Category: N/A
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Jack Ellis - Total Orgasm Power...
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Elements of Orgasm Control training From my own experience and those I have met and corresponded with there seem to be a limited number of elements that are used in orgasm training. Any given trainer may use his/her own combination of them. 1. Putting the subject in highly suggestible states is often used. This can mean hypnotism, but it can also mean just making suggestions to a woman in between orgasms, or it can mean the subject using a suitable mantram, affirming the control, during meditation. 2. Conditioning. Pavlov's dog. Always give the same signal before she comes so that the signal becomes associated with a pleasurable outcome then break the connection between erotic stimuli and orgasm so that the signal becomes necessary for orgasm. 3. Highly aroused states. Having a highly aroused subject lowers the barriers to responding to a signal. This is especially important in early stages of training. 4. Consistency of focus on the training is needed over a period of time. The exception to this may be the use of hypnotism. 5. Intense connection over a period of time. While not an absolute requirement, as described by those I have met, it seems that the greatest development of orgasm control is to be found in those practitioners with long‐term, committed relationships. Something which is not needed is the subject's belief that she can be trained to come on command. Almost no woman believes this about herself before experiencing it. She does need to be willing to cooperate and not resist the training. It is also very helpful if the woman is readily multi‐orgasmic (There are vanilla training programs for this if she is not.).
The elements above can be combined or sometimes used alone. I have seen others use hypnosis and post‐hypnotic suggestions to establish orgasm control very quickly without using any of the other elements. I have also had described to me that the man simply had the subject masturbate intensely every day for a month without coming. She then came immediately on his command. Another single element case. My personal preference is for slower processes using conditioning. The method which I have used to gain control of orgasms is primarily based on conditioning with suggestion and high erotic charge being important components. Although I have tried with several women and been successful with two, the perfection of my methods has been developed with my slave/wife “slavegirl” which is described below. I started by telling the subject while she was very turned on, while f*cking or such, that she would reach a point where she would come when I commanded without further stimulation and would be unable to come without my command. I emphasized that this would require no effort on her part but would be a deeply embedded trigger. This was repeated many times as we went along during and after the initial training. To begin I asked her to always ask for permission before coming. Initially I gave her permission immediately when she asked. Then I started gauging how long she could hold it off and withheld permission until I thought she was about to fail. I made sure that she never failed at this. Then I incorporated stopping stimulation when she asked for permission and withholding permission for a short period before giving permission. Eventually extending this to a minute or so. I also then started gauging when she was close and commanding her to come before she asked and before she hit her peak excitation. If she failed to come on command or came when I had not commanded, rare occurrences, I took responsibility for it
and emphasized that she was not to try and do anything. Telling her I had just made a mistake like trying to make her jump further than she could now, but that with further training she would succeed in this. I praised her whether she came or not. If she failed to have an orgasm it was for showing me her true responses so that I could train her. This is very important so that she wouldn’t be trained to just try to please me. (I should say that one should be very familiar with the subject’s orgasms before doing this. Watch her orgasms in detail. Watch her masturbate to orgasm. Learn the signs of a real orgasm. One of the dangers here is that the subject may deeply desire to please the trainer and this can interfere with the training. I attempt to get around this by knowing her responses in detail and by always praising her.) The first time she came on command was at a club in LA. We had played and then watched another couple play. Then I tied her on her back with her pussy elevated so her wet thong was very visible. She was very turned on. The other master and I then discussed how turned on she was, etc while standing on either side of her. When it was clear that she was very turned on, I commanded her to come with no physical contact. She immediately had a modest orgasm. During the rest of the evening I had her come on command several more times and these became stronger. After that evening I started giving her orgasms on command just with slight pleasurable contact. Such things as hugging her for a few seconds and then giving the command, or briefly stroking her breasts or butt. This is still the way to get the strongest, quickest response and I still use it to reinforce her training. Then I moved to surprising her in nonsexual situations. This typically works very well especially if she doesn’t see it coming at all. She describes feeling a flow of energy into her crotch which then expands into an orgasm. These orgasms have the typical signs of reddening of upper chest and face as well as erection of nipples and violent uncontrolled body contractions which could cause her to fall if I didn’t support her.
Having achieved this, I emphasized her not being able to come without my command. At first she controlled this by holding her breath and tensing up. We had many sessions in which I would take her to very high levels of excitement and then coach her in breathing or use other methods to get her to relax. Eventually she got to where she could go past where she would normally come, reaching higher levels of excitement without coming. After about 4 y of training I commanded her that she could not come but told her she was to try to come by stimulating herself as effectively as she could. She became very excited and acted like a crazed animal trying to get herself to come. When she was unsuccessful she started crying because it scared her. In the year or so since this was achieved she came once in a dream when she dreamed that I had commanded her to come. A couple of other times when I had her very excited and gave her intense pain to her clit or vagina she came. Recently, however, with continued training in this situation she no longer comes even with that combination without my command. I want to emphasize that this is not orgasm denial. Before this training she was essentially infinitely orgasmic, able to have back to back orgasms for more than 2 h. With the training she has fewer orgasms, usually “only” a few a day. Sometimes as many as 20 or so if we play. Her orgasms are entirely at my whim and, as I tell her and she repeats, they have only two functions. I give her orgasms only for my pleasure or to deepen her slavery, never just for her pleasure. So what has changed is that she no longer has any control of when she will come or knowledge of when I will command it. I always try to leave her less than satiated. Arousal states beyond the orgasmic Attempting to open a discussion on higher levels of arousal that require orgasm control:
For me, orgasm control, which as defined in this group means conditioned control of the ability of a control holder to elicit orgasms from a subject without her conscious involvement, has never been an end but just one beginning step in the domination of my slavegirl. I have written here about using this to train for increased masochism and various other things as well as her inability to come without my command. I have also emphasized that O denial can be a counterproductive place to start for such training. With this context I offer this description of our current explorations of erotic states that may only be reached with orgasm control. I have long realized that prolonged edging can be a very powerful and pleasurable state and have hypothesized that if one could withhold orgasm but continue stimulation it should be possible to reach higher levels of excitement than orgasmic ones and that they could be prolonged as long as the stamina of the subject permitted. The experiments which I have conducted over several years with my slavegirl have borne this out. That is, when I withhold orgasm, remember she cannot come without my command, and give her overwhelming erotic stimulation she reaches places which she describes as being much more aroused than orgasm and of course much more prolonged (these are not subspace as she is fully present). She prefers them to orgasm, though initially she often was intensely frustrated and desirous of orgasms. Most recently, associated with my use of hypnotic trance with her on top of her conditioning, it has been possible to take these things much further. Although trance has greatly facilitated this, I don’t believe that most of the effects achieved require trance, though surely they happened a lot faster because of it. I should also say that the trance used first occurred spontaneously during a heavy session and I exploited it and continue to do so. I suspect that trance often occurs in heavy sessions and that the deeper forms of this are highly suggestible states which with a little knowledge on the part of the dom could readily be exploited. (If you are interested in this you might want to look at the erotic hypnosis group and inform yourself about hypnosis.)
What has been achieved through conditioning and suggestion as well as conversation with her subconscious (which is profoundly surrendered to me, I believe as a result of the years of conditioning.) is that brutal whipping of her clit –tomcat, stinger, elk flogger, etc. ‐results in her reaching what the conscious and unconscious agree are the highest levels of erotic arousal and the highest levels of pain that she has ever experienced. (So much so that she sometimes passes out.) All this with no desire for orgasm at all and not in subspace but fully present. When in this state she just desperately wants to be whipped harder, and longer to take her higher in arousal and keep her there without thought of orgasm. She now says that when she masturbates or fantasizes she no longer even thinks about coming, the objective is always severe erotic torture with its higher states of prolonged arousal. In the future I will try to take her to higher levels of mental arousal by using trance to somewhat disconnect her physical responses to torture from the mental ones so that her physical responses are reduced. I’m putting this out as an example of where one can go with determination, time and commitment. Before I started with fist‐f*cking in 1993 I nearly couldn't get an orgasm if I worked hard on it ‐ happened maybe 5 % of the time, the other 95 % was filled with frustration. The first experience with fist‐f*ck was about to make me orgasm while getting a lot of sensations from where I very easily get ass orgasm. I went into total panicky and tried to push out his hand. Lucky for me he was experienced and did it slowly. For the next 45‐50 minutes I did everything I possibly could not to orgasm, taking a cold shower etc. Felt most of the time it would just happen without more stimuli if I didn’t try to avoid it. I finally succeeded in controlling it, but the energy didn’t go away, now it couldn’t get an outlet from my body as an orgasm, it moved its way through my body and opened some of my higher chakras. The following days I went around the camp looking like a monk in Nirvana. My only regret was that I couldn’t engage in sex (I looked forward to that week all year and now I “wasted” days by being content),
but if I should have tried to have sex, I would have had to try to build up some kind of tension to be able to need the relish for it. And I couldn’t and wouldn’t even try, because I had never before felt so good about myself and felt harmony. I was lucky he invited me to visit him 3 months later, and I used this time to induce some of the same feeling and learn to be able to deal with it – and try to find out, why it felt so frightening for me. I visited him for 10 days and I knew in beforehand I trusted him so much; I was ready to let him kill me – that’s what my fear from the first experience felt like. The fourth day we had sex, my willing to open myself for him and allow him to push my fear and pain, didn’t bring me the feared orgasm, but I came into a state of enlightenment. I’m sorry I couldn’t manage to stay in that state, I still wasn’t evolved enough as a person to be able to handle the insight I got – I hurt people when I wanted to tell them, what they should change to solve their deepest problems, but I did it without the understanding that what they needed most also gives them the most pain. Over the next 2½ year I learned to get 9 different kinds of orgasms (I saw a list with 8 different kinds of orgasm, and I could say I could get them all – and one that was not mentioned and even more powerful than the rest). In the time in between his and my meetings, I found out how I could build up me sexual energy through my eating and how I could use the sexual energy for work purposes. But I couldn’t postpone the need to let it out as an orgasm more than 30 hours. Later I got married with a man with even more orgasmic possibilities than I have. I liked to explore the depts. of his sexuality like you explore your slave girl’s, and I learned how to give him the same kinds of orgasms as I can + we discovered two more, I envied him. He continued to enjoy being forced to get one orgasm after the other – 5‐7 with semen and 30‐40 other kinds of orgasms, we just called them ass orgasm, because they don’t necessary lead to a ejaculation. He couldn’t understand I
didn’t do the same, when I was in the receiving end. But I had tried to feel so exhausted from getting orgasms I nearly couldn’t rebuild my body energy the following days, so I would rather feel the energy in my body and how it influenced my mind than just getting outlet for all the energy through orgasms. I haven’t been thinking so much about the different kinds of orgasm, so I would need communication to be able to get in touch with all I found out back then, but if you should want to, I’d like to give you feedback on some of your thoughts about higher levels of excitement beyond orgasm. From my experience I can say that when the energy is high, some of the orgasms doesn’t take so much of the total energy, but they can be a way to “torture” someone, because the body becomes more and more sensitive from them, so if the stimulus continues, it can feel very hard in a good way because the body still have enough energy to go through what happens to it. Different types of orgasm I believe it should actually be something which you can simply associate and therefore trigger effectively. It has to be done, as a repeated association, while achieving clitoral orgasm through stimulation, with your verbal 'cum' trigger/command. To prevent tainting the results, while associatively embedding, avoid any vaginal stimulation, other than what is required for achieving an edge of orgasm state. In other words, it's okay to stim in the sense of saying 'throb' or something in your ear to bring to mind your pussy contracting and causing it, to up the sensations, but once you are edged, some clit stim should be applied, verbal triggers used for your clit only, the command to cum issued. You should have, a semi‐ physical/semi‐verbal clit stim orgasm... Dial this back. Use less and less physical clitoral stim, and reduce to nothing the amount of vaginal stimulation you receive verbally. Focus entirely on your clitoral
sensations through verbage, not physical touch. Reach edge, receive the cum command, while associating (keeping top of mind) the edge building sensations to the command to cum itself and keeping your mind not on your juicy box, but your sensitive lil' nub. You should begin, over time to be associating all edging associations with your cum command, and it should be focused on your clitoral sensations, nothing else. At this point, start dialing back any edging verbage and use only the cum command to facilitate edging and orgasm through the clitoris. The concern I might have, is that if you do it this way, you may override the ability to have a solid vaginal orgasm by command. Another way to do it could be to interlink the vaginal and clitoral by way of a slightly different cum command. Say, 'Cum, HARD' being said, instead of simply 'Cum'. This could be something that allows for the non‐stimulated clit to be stimulated (through associations and edging mind you, of course, following the same processes above) by the vaginal contractions and orgasms you have and to follow, support and intensify your orgasm in general, through a simple command, so you might still get a vaginal orgasm, but you can also have the addition of a clitoral orgasm simultaneously... Different types of orgasm 2 There are any number of ways to anchor the different states (clitoral or vaginal orgasm) you can use kinetic, verbal, or visual. I suggest a non verbal anchor to start with since you already have one orgasm type anchored verbally. If you use a kinestetic anchor then use one that is unlikely to be triggered randomly. If you bump your elbow on bus rides then that could pose a problem so try stroking your ankle or pulling your earlobe. Better yet, use a hypnotic suggestion that this works only if triggered by your trainer. This may be too advanced and it's best to keep the anchor simple. If you use a verbal anchor and it is done by someone with some experienced in controlling their tonality and you are able to easily make the distinctions between
your current command for orgasm and the new one then verbal will work fine. If not on either account then choose another modality altogether such as I suggested above. You can have good results either way. Yes, if you want your clitoral and vaginal orgasm's to remain distinct the you should definitely be careful not to confuse the anchors. if you want some other types of orgasm then you might try experimenting with combinations. Either way, the bigger goal of full body orgasms on command might be worth spending some time on. I have trained several women to orgasm on command. Here's how: First, she must learn to orgasm readily. I use a vibrator for this. In our initial sessions, I repeatedly vibrate her to orgasm. In the second phase, she learns to not orgasm without permission. I vibrate her, making her wait longer and longer, before giving permission to orgasm. I may briefly remove the vibrator, then put it back, in order to draw out the time before her orgasm. Permission is always given in the form of the command "Cum!" preceded by intense eye contact which tells her the command is about to follow. (With one woman, I would also seize the hair on the back of her head.) In the third phase, she has her first orgasms while not receiving physical stimulation. As in the second phase, I vibrate her with brief periods during which the vibrator is not in contact with her. When she is barely able to hold back, I establish eye contact, remove the vibrator, and give the command. If timed right, she is so excited from being vibrated a moment before that she starts to orgasm.
Whether successful or not, I immediately put the vibrator back on her clit. This ensures a good orgasm whether it started while the vibrator was removed or not. This procedure is repeated many times with longer and longer periods of the vibrator withdrawn before the command is given and longer and longer periods after the command before the vibrator is returned. The third phase eventually morphs into the fourth phase where the vibrator doesn't need to be present at all. I start by turning the vibrator off and setting it down during the periods of removal. I may turn it back on and just bring it near her to pump up her level of excitement. I move from there to just talking about the vibrator, telling her to think about it, imagine it on her clit, before I establish the eye contact and give the command. To help establish the fantasy vibrator, I might briefly touch the real vibrator to her clit while telling her to imagine it. (I had one girl who developed the need to cross her legs, trying to hold back orgasm, whenever she encountered something making a buzzing sound. I'd have her lie on the floor, spread‐eagle, and let her thrash in orgasm when I set a vibrator/electric‐toothbrush/etc. on the floor near her.) By this time, the women I trained needed only the thought of the vibrator and had developed an association between that and the intense eye contact. I would typically say the one word "Slave", to get her to look at me. We'd make eye contact and she'd see the expression on my face, knowing what that meant. She'd feel the non‐existent vibrator on her clit and be holding back orgasm by the time I said "Cum!". Orgasm control as a tool for extending erotic responses Once one has a woman trained for verbal control of orgasms, endless possibilities open for using this to train her to respond erotically to other stimuli. This further training is done just by giving her the stimulus in association with the command to come or even telling her that she will come when she receives a given stimulus.
This can be used to broaden a slave’s sexual responses to the point where she responds erotically and orgasmically to a wide variety of stimuli. Not necessarily ones that normally have erotic connections. This can of course be used in very humiliating ways to train a slave so that she not only has no control of her orgasms but that they can be made to happen by painful or humiliating stimuli. Psychologically this further drives home her slavery. I have used this sort of method, for example, to eroticize my slave's breasts and nipples. Originally she had very little erotic connection with them. But after telling her that they would rival her clit in sensitivity and then for a period just giving her orgasms on command while stimulating her nipples and breasts, they are now highly erotically sensitive. I have heard from others who have successfully used pleasant stimuli all over the subject's body with the goal of eroticizing the entire body surface. I have also used this sort of training to extend responses in terms of training for erotic responses to pain. My stated desire, as I told my slave from the beginning, was to train her so that her primary erotic stimuli would be associated with pain and/or humiliation. While she feared this it also appealed to her because she is also a masochist and knew that her most intense and satisfying orgasms come in contexts with pain and or humiliation. The simplest way to use orgasm control in this way is just to repeatedly command her to come during painful stimulation. Say repeatedly during a whipping. Done over time this builds a connection which gets her excited when exposed to these stimuli and can carry her to very deep responses when I command her to come with these stimuli. This can be used to eroticize all kinds of tortures. Among others I’ve used this with are ice water enemas, play piercing, and tit nailing to excellent effect so that things which she feared in advance she is now eager to repeat. As I see it this is better than just whipping a woman and then giving her sexual pleasure afterwards as it blends pain and pleasure into an addictive, ecstatic soup. This can also be used to create an erotic connection with everyday items. For example, I often make her sit on a stool with a trailer hitch ball on its
top and then command her to come. She now has an erotic response to seeing trailer hitch balls when she is out in the world.☺ However, a more direct route is to use the painful stimulus as the command. That is, to give her the command that when something is done to her she will come in response. IMPRINTING This is when a trigger in the psyche is set by just the right stimulus to permanently implant a response in a single event. I was not looking for this but a positive imprinting appears to have manifested with my slavegirl. From our experience with this, it is much deeper and more potent than training with conditioning. There also seems to be no way to make it happen reliably and these imprintings can also be negative. Everyone is familiar with triggers of highly negative responses to stimuli associated with traumatic events, but this is the flip side. In any case I will briefly describe what happened without the details. For years I have been training slavegirl in a myth which explains her status as slave and why she must be punished. This has included repetition of phrases supporting this myth or structure. On the day when the imprinting happened, slavegirl was secured to our frame (see profile pics) and tortured almost continuously for several hours with only a few orgasms. At the end she was given very severe electrical pain to her nipples with no orgasms, though she could have come easily if allowed. Her state during this whole time was floating in severe pain and excitation beyond the level needed for orgasm. During these several hours she often repeated the phrases linking to the myth of why she must be punished. When I decided to end things I left her on the frame with the vibrator while I took things apart. She was in a relaxed but aroused state. When I finished I took her in my arms and gave her a very deep, passionate kiss. She immediately became intolerably turned on writhing and shaking. I gave her an orgasm and after it
subsided kissed her again. The same thing happened instantly. She told me afterwards that she had been lying there deeply desiring me to hold her and kiss her before I did so. Three months have now passed and her response to the stimulus of my giving her a deep kiss has continued essentially unchanged. This is an immediate and very powerful response. It differs from conditioned orgasm training in that it feels very different to slavegirl. She says that with the conditioned training she feels herself focusing, drawing energy into her center before coming. With the imprinted response she says that she feels a melting feeling all over, her muscles feel weak and she can barely stand, she is driven to spread her arms and legs wide and push her pussy forward in uncontrolled lust, and she craves massive stimulus, pain or orgasm. If I don’t give her release her entire body is extremely sensitive to my touch. The lightest touch driving her even crazier with hunger for release. This is also different from a conditioned response in that it is even faster than conditioned control, is much more totally disabling, and finally is nearly free of context, that is she can be tired, cranky or whatever, it makes little difference with the imprinted stimulus, unlike with conditioned responses. From our conversations so far it appears that, to at least some extent, she has incorporated the myth as her psychological reality so that now my expression of love and caring for her through kissing her makes a connection releasing any sexual inhibitions and brings into play that the price of that is her being tortured. This is where I always wanted to go but didn’t know we could get there as a reality. And yes, she was initially scared by this but is now coming to see it as the gift from the gods that it is. My point in posting this is to say that there appear to be states of control beyond those achieved with conditioning. States that are even more involuntary, much more persistent,, and much more deeply manipulative of the psychology of the subject. And that these can be highly positive, desirable states at least for some.
It is also possible that one can at least prepare the way for such an event through persistent focused effort devoted to conditioning and using altered states. In corresponding with a female member of this group a couple of months ago she related to me another instance of positive “imprinting”. In her case she lived in a highly repressive environment as a teenager and fantasized about a male voice that told her to stimulate herself in various ways. After doing this over a period of time the voice commanded her to have an orgasm. She immediately did so, was frightened by the whole experience, and never used the voice again. Years later a dominant that she was with hit on the same phrase that the voice had used and she came immediately. This sounds like “imprinting” to me because it was set in a single repetition and persisted for years without reinforcement. Orgasm brings tears The first immediate answer would have to be yes as I have been brought to tears in two different and unique ways while ordered to and allowed to orgasm. The first was during an extraordinarily long session of continuous multiple orgasms. He controlled the strength and brought the intensity to a level that made me whimper and gasp experiencing pleasure at a level where it was joined by muscular pain simultaneously throughout my body. The intensity was at such a level that time seemed to slow down and everything moved in slow motion. When he allowed the orgasms to subside slowly he ordered me to rest where I was and until I was restored once again. I woke up around 3:00am, my face wet from the tears and the place where my head lay was also wet from those same tears as well. The next time was when he sought to teach me a lesson and I learned it well. We had ended an orgasmic session of pleasure and started a conversation when he
suddenly ordered an immediate strong orgasm. Just as quickly as he ordered it to start he ordered me to stop… immediately. I cannot describe the intense combination of pain that was still tinged with background pleasure that it brought with it copious tears. The lesson was to show me punishments could be accomplished in surprising ways and quite efficiently as well … a major “ouch” factor and lesson noted and learned. Orgasm on Command – a different perspective Some of this, I have said before and to others who have been skeptical of my joy in participating in “orgasm on command” and as well to those who have shown a genuine interest in learning of it for themselves. I must first say that I am a submissive with a very strong personality and will. I found this way of life just 10 short months ago and my journey has been an adventure of learning to let go and place my trust and control in another’s very capable hands. That I would have to say was probably the most difficult thing I have had to do so far. I have confidence in my Master and in my choice to do so and I actually felt liberated when I did. Every submissive woman's journey will be different as the demands and skills of her Master differ, the uniqueness of my story is due in part to the nature of my relationship with my Master: I live in the USA and he lives in the UK and yet through his skills as a teacher he has taken me to orgasms on command of over an hour in length. He is My Master and his command of me is in large part, because of his use of orgasm control. I have spoke to one or two other submissives in the past who have convinced themselves that the workload in this applied technique is on the submissive as they must provide the orgasms. As I have given this much thought and have read
and re‐read my history on messenger and e‐mails, the actual responsibility falls mostly to the Dominant/Master as he must first be able to create the headspace into which all will fall into place. I found for us, His knowledge, and skills in training me, along with trust and honesty were the most important ingredients for this to have worked so well. I will tell you all that I was very skeptical at the very idea that someone could be trained to orgasm on command after a history of limited or no orgasms whatever the sexual or emotional situation. It took around five weeks before he had me experiencing my first orgasm by his order only. As I look back over our history I can actually see, how he, on many occasions succeeded even when running blind just using intuition and his skills as an excellent teacher to guide me to my position as His slave. We originally met though FetLife while I was perusing the many different groups. As I read through some of the posted responses to a question posted and his response caught my attention so I went on to read his profile and then found his writings. I found his writings to be captivating in there originality, with a good dose of horrific sensual events that kept me reading to the very last word and then asking his permission to copy them for my own private use. The thing I most enjoyed about his writings was that I was able to put myself in place of any of the characters I chose and live vicariously through them. I could be the victim, the sadist, or any of them I chose and with each choice I was able to reach different types of arousals. We found our first common ground in this way and continued communications while the relationship took the form of his Dominant nature to my submissiveness. He would pose questions and I would answer with honesty and visa versa. As we learned of each other the relationship developed as did my attraction to him. Many things need to come together to produce success in orgasm on command and he provided them all brilliantly as his successes with me have attested over the last 10 months.
If I had to describe what is gained to someone not familiar with orgasms on command, I would say besides the pleasure, it was learning a great deal about me and of how I could give up control and my world did not come to an end. This is paramount, the giving over of command... I learned what it meant to be a good submissive to an even better Dominant. In all this time with my vacillations and insecurities he has always been steady and consistent with me and guiding me back to where I need to be. Not once was I coerced, tricked or lied to about anything. I chose how far and when to take the next step and he was always there to guide me in my choice to go towards my true self and to place myself in his total care. I tell you these things as they all have to do with being successful at orgasms on command. When I let go the last of my resistance, he was able to start to extend the orgasms to longer and longer durations lasting over an hour and one half in duration. As his control is total for me in orgasm on command, we had a mishap when whilst in orgasm Master did not order its end and it continued for the rest of the night and into the morning lasting over 13 ½ plus hours in total time until Master reestablished contact and ended it finally. The pleasure ended even though the orgasm continued when he logged off and I was alone with this orgasm without end. Orgasm conditioning with scents I had a close friend tell me that for a period of several months when they didn't have a partner, they experimented on conditioning themself. They would do the things they always had done to masturbate, but right before they came they would open up a vial containing a very specific (and pretty rare) scent. They found that after 30‐40 times, smelling the scent earlier in the process would greatly speed things up and also make the result deeper.
This all makes sense (pun intended). "The sense of smell is the only one of our senses that is wired directly into the brain so that the result is immediate. The brain must interpret the other senses before they can be comprehended. The olfactory nerves have been described as "brain cells outside the brain." So smells go into the brain quickest and most direct. After enjoying the benefits of this for several months, they started a new relationship and stopped using the scent. Even after several years, if they happen to come across that same smell walking though the mall, they would still have a (milder) response. I suspect that smell would be the MOST effective of triggers, but in my own experiences conditioning my subs, it's pretty inconvenient and I have good results using tactile and voice triggers instead. Orgasm Control ‐ not for the immature After reading through these threads I realized there is no warning on orgasm control and I really felt there should be. I wanted to share one of my own failings in hopes of preventing someone else from doing the same thing ‐ or a slave/ sub from allowing someone immature, inexperienced or someone they don't trust 100% to train them in orgasm control. I was not very experienced at the time and perhaps not as mature as I'd have liked to believe. I had taken the time to study everything I could on orgasm control and so was determined to see my slave trained and cum on command. The first slave I taught orgasm control to took about 8 weeks to properly train. She knew from square one what my goal was and she did everything I asked. I did every technique I'd read about and added what felt right would be right to add along the way. The end result was beautiful ‐ she could orgasm with a single
word, even over the phone. I was exceptionally proud ‐ not only of myself but her as well. Now, the reason I say this is not something a slave should learn from someone they don't trust 100% or from someone they feel is inexperienced or immature: I was quite cocky and proud of my accomplishment. Very proud. I wanted to play with it and see to just what extent that control went and what would happen if I pushed her and pushed her. Yes, we played one night ‐ scened and played some more. She had orgasmed a few times through the evening. We had both grown a little tired and I'm not sure if it was my own cockiness that led to the lack of judgment,being tired, or what ‐ but I decided to take her screaming and moaning right over the edge. Repeatedly I commanded her to orgasm and she complied with no will to stop it. She shook harder and harder, her breath coming in gulps and ragged rasps until she literally passed out. Yes ‐ passed out. When she lost consciousness I was obviously concerned and as I reached to check her pulse ‐ she began to shake, drool and mumble incoherently. Yes, that's about the time panic wants to set in. Everyone always says they want to die having sex ‐ no one wants to be the one that actually kills someone having sex. Long story short ‐ no, I didn't call the medics. I wrapped her in a blanket and held her and talked to her. She slowly came out of it and regained consciousness over the following 5 minutes or so yet remained deep in subspace for a long time thereafter. I have never seen someone stay in subspace, totally unable to speak or react to anything, for so long. The experience scared the hell out of me. I learned the hard way not to take a woman beyond a certain point. Orgasm control is by far the most tangible and beautiful signs of complete and total
submission you can hope to achieve. It is not a toy. It is not for immature or inexperienced men. Be responsible. Using gestures for orgasm control I have had the experience of having trained a sub to respond to my instruction to approach climax, or to reach climax, or, alternatively, to stop any progression to climax, using very simple hand gestures. The gestures were quite nuanced, and thus easily used in public. As I know is often the case, the training/conditioning itself was a gradual and slow process over many months, but the time required was, I believe, not a function of the use of non‐verbal cues, but rather the inherent challenge of this type of conditioning. When the goals were reached, there was something particularly erotic about the instruction being given, and obeyed, without a single word spoken. Using gestures for orgasm control 2 I think the use of a clear, graduated training protocol, along with a good dose of patience, is the most important aspect of a gesture based orgasm control approach. But there are a some aspects of the gestures, as well as a couple of specific gestures you might find of interest. A different approach is taken in public, vs. when we are in bed, of course. In public, the gestures are very subtle, and the sub is expected to be watching for them. When I wish her to become aroused, I simply raise bend my left wrist upward and towards her, almost like a subtle flick of the wrist towards her. If I wish her to stop her arousal at any point, I move my right hand, at the wrist, from left to right.
If, with a bit of squeezing and squirming and fantasy, she is able to reach climax, she is to subtly raise her hand, even by an inch, more of a subtle wrist bend actually, and keep that position until she's finished. If she is unable to come sufficiently rapidly to meet my expectation, I simply nod to her and she is to excuse herself and go to the ladies room, make herself climax as quickly as possible, and return. One other circumstance in which I use gestures, is in conjunction with the use of a remote control vibrator. She fairly consistently reaches climax within 30‐60 seconds after I turn it on using the control in my pocket. I really enjoy watching her try not to show her arousal to whomever she may be speaking with, or at a bar or dinner table with, when I turn the vibration on, and, even more excruciatingly difficult, to climax without showing it. Sometimes, I will instruct her, by using the right hand back and forth gesture described above, not to come. This is almost impossible for her in the face of fairly intense vibrator stimulation, but I enjoy watching her try. When she does climax from the vibrator, she is always to raise her hand slightly, as described above. In an intimate setting, I will simply tug on her left nipple, and she is to climax. Easy enough, given that her nipples are quite sensitive. More challenging, if I tug/play with her right nipple, she is not to climax until I allow her to. This is, as you might imagine, was a bit dissonant/confusing at first, but has led to an altered, conditioned, differential response, in which she sees the two nipples very differently and, most interestingly, her left nipple generally continues to get very erect in response to stimuli, while her left one rarely does. Orgasm management thoughts Orgasm Management? by MasterfulJ almost 5 years ago
This is a topic that I have been actively trying to figure out for quite awhile. I still don’t think that I have it well sorted out and am seeking input here. The situation is that the slavegirl is trained so that she comes at my command and cannot come without it. With this total control I determine the number and timing of her orgasms. My objective is to keep her “horny” at all times. The question then is how to best manage her orgasms to keep her in this state. The possibilities involve variations in time between orgasms ranging from long‐ term deprivation to many daily. Another important variable is stimulation without allowing orgasms. Yet another variable is the use of broken orgasms in which she is commanded to stop, and does, in the middle of an orgasm. Another variable is that some orgasms result in a very high level of satiation so that she is sexually inert for a few days. (The characteristics which set apart these satiating orgasms are not very apparent at this point but in general I would choose to avoid them when possible.) Longer term deprivation is not the best method IMHO for a variety of reasons. For my slavegirl, deprivation beyond a few days usually results in a counterproductive damping of her desire. However, deprivation over a day or so with stimulation is very effective at keeping her very excited. Frequent orgasms actually can act to keep her horny. The number 3 seems especially effective. That is to give her 3 orgasms on command in the morning will usually keep her turned on all day long. Fewer than that doesn’t get her to the point where she just wants to come more, and more tend to reduce the desire slightly. However, many orgasms she is given, breaking the last one or two is usually an effective way to keep her at a high level of arousal for the rest of the day at least. What is clearly counterproductive to this goal, though it is desirable in other ways, is to give her series of powerful prolonged orgasms usually with vaginal
penetration and other intense stim such as estim, whipping, clitoral stim. These orgasms usually result in satiation. In contrast, equally intense and prolonged orgasms produced with live music driving vaginal estim typically result in immediate exhaustion but elevated “hornyness” for a week or so. Another aspect of this management is the predictability of when slavegirl is given orgasms. In general, I try to avoid being too predictable so that she knows that she can be made to come at any time which also tends to keep her in a more excited state. Slavegirl herself thinks that what is most effective is to be given extended high levels of stimulation frequently, but to be allowed to come only rarely. She often finds this frustrating at the time but also is often able to enter states that are deeply satisfying. I am concerned that this kind of management will reduce her ease of coming through teaching her not to come with high stimulation. There is also the matter that I like to see her come so the ideal situation would be to manage her orgasms so that she has lots but always wants more. The basic problem as stated above is how to manage commanded orgasms to maintain the subject in a relatively high state of arousal to as great an extent as possible. The one area of progress in this regard has to do with training the slavegirl to, when commanded to do so, bring herself to orgasm by whipping her clit. She starts out with paced, moderate strokes and at around 20 strokes goes into extreme excitement and starts hitting very hard and fast. Orgasm arrives after 10 to 20 strokes of this. These are violent, brutal orgasms which I stop after one orgasm. Interestingly they don't seem to be satiating for the slavegirl. In fact after a session of such self‐flagellation to orgasm a number of times she is still unsatiated and various other forms of stimulation and many more orgasms don't satiate her, though they may exhaust her to where she can't easily come.
However, she still wants to and wants to be stimulated. So I'm incorporating such scenes into most of our play which acts to increase her general level of arousal. I am thinking that the irritation, minor bruising of the clit and vulva by the whipping somehow act to keep her somewhat aroused. The itch that needs to be scratched. Another trick that seems to "keep her on her toes" has been to have her stimulate herself by pinching her nipples (she has been trained to the point where this quickly brings her to the verge of orgasm) while she is sitting by herself in the hot tub at her exercise club. She is either told just to pinch herself to a count of 70 without coming or to come after a count of 70. This is a semi‐public location so there is always the possibility of discovery but it is within the women's room. She once had a woman come in after her orgasm and comment that the water must be very hot, her face was so red. She finds these very exciting experiences but not satiating, apparently because of the need to maintain awareness. I have come to a management scheme that seems to work satisfactorily. I assume that by progress in techniques, you are referring to my extensive use of trance and controlling my slavegirl by talking with her subconscious as well as an emphasis on stimulating her with machine f*cking of her urethra with large sounds combined with painful estim on the sound. For the purposes of this discussion, I would just say that the management scheme that I've hit on involves a lot of denial with regular vibrator use by slavegirl. This is enhanced by using the conditioned and hypnotically set controls to regulate her arousal and ability to come in session. As part of this she has been conditioned to reach high arousal and eventually to come from deep oral kissing by me. She is also very sensitive to my touch, again a matter of conditioning, which quickly arouses her and can bring her to orgasm without touching of genitals, though I more often use it to just add to her arousal.
If she is given a single strong orgasm, she can still be aroused the next day and reaches maximal excitability the second day after coming. If she is given forced orgasms to near exhaustion, it takes about a week to recover to full excitability. I am still not clear how much of the drop after orgasm is truly physiological and how much is due to her beliefs and those of her subconscious about the downtime after orgasm. In any case her preferred state is denial. She is very addicted to what I've termed "states beyond orgasm". These are prolonged states of extreme arousal far higher that what would elicit an orgasm if she were not conditioned to be unable to come without my command. These states can last for up to 3 h or so though at the highest levels of arousal she is very tired after 90 minutes and wiped out after 2.5h. During these states I can manipulate her degree of consciousness, ability to think, sensations, level of arousal, and emotional states by talking with her subconscious. The subconscious prevents her from hearing our conversations. When she is in these "states above orgasm" she is very susceptible to conditioning (connecting pain or touch to arousal for example) and can erotically process very high levels of pain. These are also highly suggestible states in which mental work can be done on her conscious. I also give her broken orgasms (two contractions with the usual sensations of orgasm and then the contractions continue without release or pleasure) rather frequently to keep her arousal up. These are very frustrating, painful and arousing for her and increase her arousal. Initially I just implemented them by telling her to stop at the appropriate time when she started to come, but in the last year I have used the subconscious to set her responses so that a normal command for her to come will elicit a broken orgasm. Only if I specify a full orgasm will she have an actual orgasm. All this has brought the management of her arousal and orgasms to a satisfactory state as far as I'm concerned. It has also very significantly increased her internal surrender/enslavement to me which has been the main point of the entire exercise.
THE CHAIN TRICK I came across the description for Chain Trick a while back, found it highly intriguing, and then read the comments in the thread below the description posting, which were a bunch of people exclaiming how insanely fantastic this was, and their disbelief of how good it felt and how much they squirted. And so I ran out, bought some stainless steel chain and tried it. Did it work? HOLY F*CK did it ever!!! I squirted with more intensity and volume than ever before, and ever since. It actually startled me in the moment. My anatomy/bone structure makes it such that I can't really be fisted (trust me on this one, very eager people have tried), so this experience is an amazing way to feel that fullness...plus I like chain a ton for a number of reasons anyhow. Like any play, there are some safety concerns associated with this, so please read thoroughly to protect all involved. Even if this does not work to make you squirt, it is an amazingly fun scene to have and feels so amazing. Equipment: A length of chrome‐plated ¼” proof or stainless steel coil chain Rubbing alcohol Dish soap Lube Caution: If you use chrome‐plated chain, be sure it is chrome‐plated and not galvanized and is new; do not use old chain. Do not use nickel‐plated or anything other than chrome‐plated or non‐plated stainless steel. Run your fingers over each link and look for welds that are not smooth. Reject any length with flaws. Rinse off the residue of the manufacturers oil with dish soap. Sterilize with alcohol but rinse it off before it comes into contact with her delicate membranes Prepare length of chain: Wash it in dish soap and rinsing it in alcohol. Wash off the alcohol in warm water. You want it clean and sterile. You also want it warm so
it isn’t shocking to the body but not hot so as to burn the delicate skin. Wrap it in a towel… you’ll need the towel later. Set the wrapped chain aside. Warm up your partner. Lick her clit, tickle her g‐spot (it’s going to be really tickled later.) Kiss her and tease her. Get her wet. If she’s multiorgasmic (lucky you!) let her cum a few times. Little orgasms at this point are perfect. Now time to insert the chain. Use lube. Use more lube. Spread her legs open, knees up, ankles at her sides, lying on her back. Place a pillow under her if it helps make her open up more. Use lube. Slowly insert the chain link by link. Did we mention to use lube? Caution: you can pinch delicate folds between the links if you are not careful. Fact of the matter is…you probably will. If you go slow it will be a tiny pinch. To avoid pinching use lots of lube and slip each link into the one that preceded it (it will become obvious quickly how that’s done.). Have fun with it. Insert the first few links as far as you can easily reach with one finger. They will move back as the latter links follow. The chain slowly fills and stretches her vagina. There are few nerves ending in the muscular walls of the vagina. These are rarely stimulated even during sex. This stretching introduces new sensations which can be quite powerful. USE LUBE. Liberally. (That’s why you brought the chain in a towel. Use the towel under her. Some lubes stain – especially on satin. Don’t ask; trust me on this.) The sensations you are creating are very much like those induced by ‘fisting’. The advantage of the chain is that you don’t have to pass a large fist through the vaginal opening. There are some other advantages; she can move around more. That can be fun too. Try different positions when the chain is inside her. Let her roll on her side or on to her tummy. She may be able to walk with the chain inside her; that’s very interesting! Note on how much chain to use. You won’t know in advance how much she can take. Buy a couple of different lengths; 2’, 3’ and 4’. They’re cheap (about
$1.50/foot) and you’ll find lots of ways to play with the different lengths. Some women can’t take more than 2 feet. Some can. A four foot chain makes an interesting toy for two women to share. Be playful. Lick her clit as you’re inserting the chain. Rub her g‐spot as the link goes in. Stop every now and then and insert your finger alongside the chain. Interesting isn’t it? Tight too! Rub her g‐spot again. And again. Lick, rub, insert… find your own rhythm. She will want to cum. Don’t let her. Tell her to wait. It gets better. Much better. When you’ve got all the chain that feels comfortable to you both folded and molded inside her begin to bring her closer to the peak. Don’t rush it. Take your time. Enjoy it. She will. Let her fall back from the edge…. And help her climb up again. Let her squeeze down against the chain. Lick her and play with her g‐spot until you believe that she cannot stand it anymore (hopefully she will indicate that she is about to cum.) PULL THE CHAIN OUT. Do it in one continuous and rapid motion. Be prepared for her to squirt. (Towel under her is important.) Lay the chain on her tummy where she can feel the weight against her uterus. (Isn’t it astonishing how hot it is?!) Move immediately to where you can hold her. Hold her through the shaking after quakes. (Don’t worry if she won’t talk for a while; some women faint.) Keep cuddling her for about 10 minutes. If you touch her clit she may explode. Wait. Unless of course you here her exclaim, “Hurry up and F*ck ME!” Don’t cuddle her afterwards. F*ck her.
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