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36 Responses to “Guru, Palana, etc Devata” 1.  Dasarathy Says: December 26th, 2007 at 11:58 am

 Namaskar, Kindly Kindly request to t o take my humble humble respects respect s and namaskar, I am really a beginner who is interested to learn Astrology, I was going through D20 ( Vimsamsa ) . I am more interested in learning the same. I went though your PDF on Vimsamsa and Upasanamsa, I am having few doubts and questions on the same, in the I would like like to know what will happen happen when 9th house lord ( Ju - Piece s ) is in 6th House ( Sg ), Does it mean that he will have Mantra Bathaka ? and 11th place is by Saturn ( Lord is in Lagna - in Cancer with Ra and kethu). The 5th House is in Sc - Mercury is there. It would really help me, if you can say how exactly exact ly the progress in spiritual spiritual is afflicted. I would be extremely extre mely thankful to you if you can help me by answering the post. 2. Visti Larsen Says: December 29th, 2007 at 3:49 pm

हरे राम क  राम क    ृ ण  Dear Dasarathy, Namaskar  There is no problem with with Jupiter in the sixth house, as Jupiter will will never affect affe ct the t he mantra

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negatively. With sixth lord there it shows a Guru will be instrumental in removing much ripu in your spiritual practice. Make sure you get Diksha for this to happen. When lagna in D20 is associated with the eleventh house the person sees spirituality as a source of making money.. Normally such people don’t go deep into spirituality. Maybe your  chart needs rectification? Yours sincerely, Visti. 3.  shaurya Says: December 30th, 2007 at 2:21 pm

How to ask question in free of cost? 4. kshantaram Says: January 1st, 2008 at 8:12 pm

no employment since 25th dec/k shantaram/ahmedabad, had joined recently july’07, asked to leave, no involvement by management, boss bit tricky, subordinates not co-operating, self not able to drive in, company values/culture not conducive in general, lot of people leaving soon in 6-12 months, company not doing that well too as planned. dob 6th jan 1956, 01-57 am, tenali, india no stable employment since march 1987, frequent breaks since 1994, long break feb 2002 to dec’05, 20 day employment jan’06-july’07. started off very humbly with studies in jan 1974 with frequent small jobs and changes till dec’75. stable job with some internal instability during Ap1976feb1987. what is my future now, maintaining my family, daughter’s marriage,no own house so far at 52, how about retired life and finances : when next job, how/where, any blocks,remedial measures needed request help and enlighten, accept our pranams! 5. Satish Says: January 3rd, 2008 at 6:14 pm

Respected visti. According to BPHS PalanDevata is seen from 6th to Amatyakaraka. Can you give explanations WHY from sixth?  basically palan is for AK which is the essence of any Jiva. And second thing sixth represents enemy,deasease,debt,fights,resistance in overall. Then why this house is chosen? Is it for to Overcome our past karmas which stops us from getting success or nature of our karma represent which form should be workshipped to get survival? PLEASE EXPLAIN. Regards. 6.  Dasarathy Says: January 4th, 2008 at 1:01 pm

Respected Visti, Namaskar, It would be really helpful if you can explain me What is ADHI-BHOOTAM? What is ADHI-DAIVAM?

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What is ADHI-YAGYAM? Thanks, Dasarathy 7. Satish Says: January 9th, 2008 at 7:45 pm

Dear visti- namaste. I know you are quite busy, still i request you to look at post no. 5 REGARDING PALANDEVATA. Regards. 8. Satish Says: January 15th, 2008 at 6:15 pm

Respected visti - namaste. Have a look at post no.5 for PALAN DEVATA. Regards. 9. Visti Larsen Says: January 16th, 2008 at 7:11 pm

हरे राम क    ृ ण॥ Dear Members, Namaskar. Satish The Palana devata are the 10 Digpala who rule the various directions for karma. (first hint = karma therefore karmakaraka = amatyakaraka) The fruits of the dipala are given by their wives of vadhu, also known as digvadhu. The fruits are sources of sustenance for the native. (second hint = second house is sustenance and in navamsa the karakas act as if in the ninth house, i.e. first house is ninth and the second is tenth. Therefore sixth is like second house) The digvadhu maybe the giver of fruits, but the fruits and their amount are all held by the Mahavidya. (third hint = worship the mahavidya of the palana devata to enjoy the fruits of the  palana devata) Dasarathy Adhi means first of begining. The first Bhoota/bhuta is Akasha. The first daiva or deva symbolizes the base essence of anything. I.e. the adhi-devata of the Sun is agni, as the essence of the Sun is that its a burning fireball that gives light and heat. Adhi-yagya means the first yagya or deva worship. If we are to interpret it as which devata to worship first then it is Ganesha, but the first yagya of the rgveda is to Agni which holds the  place as the first sukta in the same. Yours sincerely, Visti 10. Satish Says: January 18th, 2008 at 7:15 pm

Respected VISTI- namaste. Great, Simply Great. Will you please explain more on SECOND HINT? Regards. 11. astroyogi Says:

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January 21st, 2008 at 12:32 pm

Dear All Can u please tell which is correct mantra amond below: OM Hrim grinih surya aditya shrim om om hrim drhini surya aditya shrim om i have seen many books which shows different versions ??  plz enlighten me..vistiji your valuable thoughts plz 12. Tarun Garg Says: January 22nd, 2008 at 10:39 pm

Dear Satish What Visti Ji Means in the second hint is that since Navamsa is the deeper analysis of the 9th house therefore we treat that the karakas in the Navamsa are as if they were placed in the 9th house. Now we know that house of sustainence is the 2nd house so if the karaka is in the 9th house then the 2nd house is the 6th from the 9th house. Hence the 6th from the Amk is seen for Palana Devata Visti Ji, correct me if I am wrong Regards Tarun 13. Satish Says: January 25th, 2008 at 5:52 pm

Dear Tarun Thanks a lot.Actually i am a beginner. I just mix GRAH KARAKAS WITH CHAR KARAKAS & WAS CONFUSED. Still we will wait for Vistigi’s REMARKS. regards. 14. Visti Larsen Says: January 30th, 2008 at 12:36 pm

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हरे राम क    ृ ण॥ Dear Members, Namaskar. Astroyogi I believe i have answered in another post on this forum that it is without a doubt ghrni. Tarun and Satish Tarun is perfectly right. I’ve dealt with this point in an upcoming article for the Jyotish Digest vol.2. 2008 (yet unpublished). This point applies to many points in the chart. I.e. the fifth house from Navamsa Lagna can show the appearance of the person, because the Navamsa lagna is like the ninth house, and therefore the fifth therefrom deals with the lagna itself. Yours, Visti 15. Satish Says: February 6th, 2008 at 7:38 pm

Dear Vistiji Thanks for your kind reply. I’ll read your article with extra attention. Regards. 16.  Dasarathy Says: March 6th, 2008 at 12:51 pm

Dear Visti Namaskar, Thanks for your great site, I was using your site as many of reference for my learning, And i was able to learn too. I have few doubts sir, Venus, Is one of the most important planet to time marriage, If Venus is  Neecha in D1 and D9 also its Neecha, It be varga uthama, here Venus also becomes the AK. Will it affect the marriage of a person. Venus here is in Second house ( Lagna Being at leo ) and 7th house is AQ ( Which is un-occupied ). As per my understanding as venus in debilitated and its also AK, that may hinder marriage am i right !  just in case if you would like to see the chart This is information,  November 17 1972 Early Morning 1.25 AM Chennai. India 5 30 East of GMT 80 E 17 13 N 5 Thanks in advance for the clarification. 17. Visti Larsen Says: March 11th, 2008 at 12:29 pm

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Dear Dasarathy, Namaskar  Karaka is the hand of God in our life. Venus represents that hand in relationships, comforts and all sorts of iha-loka sukha (Saravali). So Venus’ debilitation shows lack of attachment or difficulty in falling in love. But how exactly this manifest depends on the seventh house and lord. See where Venus is placed from the seventh lord and you will be able to see the problem. I.e. in one case where Venus was in the second house from the afflicted seventh lord Mercury the native saw family problems (second house) due to uncles (Mercury afflicted). But the relationship between the native and their  spouse was untarnished. So see where Venus is placed from Saturn in the e xample you cited. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen 18. Satish Says: April 5th, 2008 at 7:16 pm

Dear Visti- Namaste. I listen your lecture & also read some answer to queries posted here. Very nice & accurate answers. I am trying to see curses & all deities signified AK POSITIONS. But want your help for correct answer. These are my chart details. 25nov1966 - 6:45 am {5:30 East of GMT}- 79E06-21N09 The main curse is of spouse i.e. Ven in asc with sun & aspected by sat. Second moon in 6th with rahu , aspected by mar & sat. Moon is also Badhkesh. Third mer in 12th with ketu & aspected by badhakesh moon & rahu. So main remedy will be for VEN, though main effects will be from moon & mer. Asc lord can be workshipped i.e. mars. But mars is involved in cursing moon. So what will be the choice? In 6th lord mars & karaka sat both involved in curse so bhavdevata shiva should be the choice. In 12th, lord ven is cursed ,karaka sat is involved in another curse so should i accept ven for remedy or again shiva? Rahu in 6th with moon shows sarpabadhaka. So my confusion here is SHOULD I accept mar& ven as remedies though they are involved in another curse.If planet linked to remedy is involved in another curse what are the effects Please clarify. Another query is regarding DEVATAS. My AK is sat. In d-9 AK sat is in 9th house , moon & Mer are in 8th so choice for Ishtadevata is radhakrushna or  lakshmi narayan .Please do corrections if i am wrong. From AK sat , in 8th mar is Ex he is maheshwara & Sat is Dharmdevata. So choice of DV should be shiva or rudra. From AMK mer 6th is libra having ven+ rahu+jup. So natural choice for Palanadevata is Lakshmi, but should be other  choices due to ra& ju ? Should i accept Sarswati here due to Ju? My BK is ven itself so Lakshmi should be the only choice for Gurudevata. Both moon & mer are in TA,Mer amk is in Libra in Rashi chart.So again Ven connectoin is here. So should i consider Lakshmi narayan as Ishtadevata & Dakshinamuthi shiva as Dharmdevata & find palandevata in Ishtadevata. I think it’s too much for you, but need clarification.Mind here Ju-sta.REtro.- Sat-sta.Dir. - Mer- Sta. Retr. So look at ALL are stambhi. Waiting for your reply. Regards. Satish. 19. Satish Says: April 9th, 2008 at 10:51 am

Dear VISTI- Namaste. It seems you are quite busy as usual, so my question above no.18 is pending for moderation. So let

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me be brief & specific. Birth DATA. DOB– 25NOV 1966 TOB– 6:45:00 AM PLACE– 79E06 21N09 { 5:30 East of GMT } I listen to your lectures on curses & remedy. Here main curse is of spouse & two secondary curses are from Mother & relatives. 1- The Planets involved in curse for spouse are indirectly or directly relates to secondary curses. So how to find Remedy? For ven mar can be a remedy but involved in another curse & for mer ven can be a remedy but again another curse. So nono situation. Please explain. Let me know my ISHTA,PALAN,GURU,DHARMDEVATAS. My inference is as under. Ishta - Laxminarayana OR Radhakrushna Dharma - Dakshinamuthishiva Palan - Laxminarayana Or Laxmi only Guru - Saraswati { ven with ju & ra } PLEASE give reply with corrections & Kind explanations. Regards. Satish. 20. Vijay Kumar Says: April 20th, 2008 at 4:26 am

Dear Visti, I am too confused to correctly spot my Ishta devata, Guru Devata, Palan Devata and Atmalinga. 16-08-1951, 0722 Hrs IST, 26N57, 78E36 Would it be possible to help me and oblige. Sorry for a very primitive query. Thanks, Vijay Kumar  21. Satish Says: April 20th, 2008 at 6:24 pm

Dear Visti - Namaste. PLEASE have a kind look at post no. 19.Also at present you have closed interaction for REMEDY lectures. Where should i post some difficulties? Will you please give your email id through which you answer for old lectures or to newcomers? And i will not ask for any readings but only clarifications on some hidden points of your articles or lectures. Regards. Satish. 22. Satish Says: May 1st, 2008 at 6:29 am

Dear VISTI PLEASE have a look at post no. 19 & 21. Regards. Satish. 23.  Revti Raman Kapoor Says: May 4th, 2008 at 11:33 am

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Dear VISTI Please suggest me my Ishta Devta aand Palana Devta and also their Mantras to be chanted. Regards 24.  Revti Raman Kapoor Says: May 4th, 2008 at 11:34 am

Dear VISTI Please suggest me my Ishta Devta aand Palana Devta and also their Mantras to be chanted.My D.O.B-31/07/1960 Time - 11-10 IST Place -Delhi India Regards 25. Satish Says: May 14th, 2008 at 6:53 pm

Dear VISTI - Namaste. Have a kind look at post no. 19 & 21. Actually its a puzzule for me to understand remedies in such cases.And most imp how to communicate & get clarifications on closed links. PLEASE try to answer. Regards. Satish. 26.  aresh Says: May 20th, 2008 at 11:54 am

Dear Vistiji Sadar Pranam! Just I want to know one thing that can I wear any gemstone or not? My chandra is in vrischika rasi and also in 8th house. With respect!  Naresh 27. Visti Larsen Says: May 21st, 2008 at 4:56 pm

हरे राम क    ृ ण  Dear Members, Namaskar  Satish Based on the following lecture: http://www.srigaruda.com/jaimini-sjc/2007/03/11/lectureon-remedies/ You should have arrived at the worst curse being that of the Moon in the sixth, as it is placed in a Dusthana.  Neither dispositor nor karaka for the sixth are well placed hence t he worship of Shiva is required in the form of Somanatha (Moon afflicted). Therefore you must worship Somanatha Jyotirlinga to be redeemed from the curse. You should have arrived at the following other Devatas in your chart: Palana Devata: Sri Tara (Venus is in own sign hence others will dominate) Guru Devata: Sri Dakshinamurti (Jupiter-Rahu yoga and Dakshinamurti is the guru who removes the eclipse) Dharma Devata: Sri Hrishikesha (Venus is the strongest planet joining Rahu). The Ishta Devata is Sri Krishna due to the exalted Moon. This can be any form of Devi also, or  even Somanath Jyotirlinga, but exaltation normally points towards Vishnu Avatara or 

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Jyotirlinga. You should decide which you prefer. Revti I’m sure if you put a little effort into this your self it will be very rewarding. Go ahead and find the devatas and see also if you can find some good mantras for them here: http://www.srigaruda.com/mantra/2008/03/28/ga%e1%b9%87esa/  Naresh If Moon is badly placed the native may not like gemstones. But there is no problem in wearing them in general. Yours sincerely, Visti 28. ajay anand Says: May 21st, 2008 at 6:05 pm

dear vistiji i’m ajay .i have lost my job and facing financial crises from past 1 year .plz suggest some upaya.my date of birth-1-8-1980 time -10:05am  place-delhi,rajouri garden. waiting for ur reply. thank you ajay 29. Visti Larsen Says: May 22nd, 2008 at 8:39 am

हरे राम क    ृ ण  Dear Ajay, Namaskar  Is that 1st of August or? I have assumed that is the case: You will be more succesful in a foreign country. The problem your facing is due to Sakata-yoga occuring with the tenth lord from Moon. To overcome this you need to offer a crown to Sri Krishna and recite the Mukuta-mantra: Om Hari Brahma Vasanaaya namaH| Begin this from a Thursday morning and recite it 5×108 times a day. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen 30.  shishya dheena Says: May 22nd, 2008 at 12:27 pm

OM NAMAHSHIVAAYA Dear Guru Ji, Namaskar  Saravalli, Parasara and Varahamihira says that the sakata yoga is formed when all the planets are in ASC and seventh house, but in Ajay ji’s chart it is not so but Moon a nd Jupiter are in 6/8 position. Kindly help us to understand the yoga With respects. Yours Sincerely, shishya dheena 31. ajay anand Says: May 22nd, 2008 at 8:22 pm

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dear vistiji my date of birth-1 august 1980 time of birth-10:05 am  place delhi rajouri garden  plz tell something about my job and mairrage,where it will be love or arrange thank you 32. ajay anand Says: May 22nd, 2008 at 8:38 pm

dear vistiji i’m also wearing moti and panna ,are they good for me .or i should wear some other gem.what kind of business i should do for better income and monetary source. waiting for your reply ajay anand 33.  sakshi singh Says: May 22nd, 2008 at 8:54 pm

my date of birth- 8 oct-1985 time - 7:05am,tuesday  place of birth- naihati,west bengal, kolkatta thank you sakshi singh 34.  Avinash Chandra Says: May 25th, 2008 at 1:33 pm

Dear Visti Ji,  Namaste What mantra I should recite to get rid of all sorts of problems that I’m facing these days:—  My date of birth- 29 January 1972 time of birth- 8:40 am  place: Dhanbad Thank you. 35. Satish Says: May 27th, 2008 at 7:01 pm

Dear VISTI- Namaskara. Thanks a lot for your kind reply. Yes i arrived at the worst curse of moon according to your lecture some time back & started rudrasukta abhisheka daily but yours green singnal is imp. Regarding Palandevata & Gurudevata why ven in own house is leftout though we consider him strong? How others dominate when lord is strong & whats the logic behind that? Jup is in enemies house with his another enemy still you go for Tara? PLEASE CLRIFY. Here is one case.

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DOB - 8-1-1947 TOB - 00:45:00 AM PLACE - Chikhali - India For whole life lot of struggle in money earning. Man had done several jobs & businesses but total failure in life. Lot of debt at present but due to sun’s fine job now setteled in life.All cursed planets except jup.Kalatrashapa in 3 house with Matrushapa in 11th.Both in dusthana & equally cursed. So let me know if third is more malefic or 11th though ven more shubha& henc e might have given more wrath. So 3rd OR 11th? LOOK at his cursed 7th in d-10 & his complete failure due to  braminshapa there. PLEASE enlighten us & let me know where to ask difficulties for closed links. Regards. Satish. 36. Satish Says: May 28th, 2008 at 10:04 am

Dear VISTI. JUST one more question. The lord & karaka for 3rd house i.e. mars is involved in another curses. Can we have remedy related to mars? If remedy planet is involved in multiple curses still that can  be considered for giving remedy? Regards. Satish.

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