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Build a Greenland Kayak by nativewater on December 18, 2007

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Intro: Build a Greenland Kayak . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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Step 1: Skin on frame technology is adaptable . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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Step 2: Nomenclature . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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Step 3: Tools . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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Step 4: What's next . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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http://www.instructables.com/id/Build-a-Greenland-Kayak/ 

 

Author:nativewater nativewater   author's website skin on frame kayak builder since 1987

Intro:   Build a Greenland Kayak Intro: This instructible will teach you how t o build a 17 foot long Greenland kayak that will weigh between 30 and 40 pounds and cost less than $300 in materials. Compare that with the 45 to 60 pound weight and $1000 to $3000 of a commercial plastic kayak. The Greenland kayak is one of dozens of different Arctic kayak designs that uses skin on frame technology. In skin on frame technology you build a lightweight frame by pegging and lashing together pieces of wood and then covering the frame with a skin. The result is a boat that is light and yet strong. Total time to build a Greenland boat the first time around is about 100 hours. That doesn't count time spent buying or collecting materials. This instructible is fairly long so I've broken it up into a number of sections.Besides this intro, there wi ll be the following sections. Preparing the gunwales Building the deck Adding the keelson, stem and stern Adding the ribs Adding the hull and deck stringers Sewing on & painting the skin Skin on frame building is fair ly easy and does not require either fancy t ools or great wood-working skills. Skin on frame boat builders in the Arcti c were hunters first and boatbuilders second. Everybody built their own boat. There were no professional boat builders and so the technology was at a level that was accessible to everyone. And for pictures of more Greenland kayaks in action go to the qajaqusa website.

Image Notes 1. wow, cool looking boat. Can't believe you can make one of these without prior boat building or wood working experience!

Image Notes 1. and the boat is so light you can wear it as a hat when you're not paddling it.

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Step 1: Skin 1: Skin on frame technology is adaptable Once you have built a Greenland kayak using skin on frame technology, you will have picked up enough knowledge to build other styles of skin on frame kayaks using only drawings as a resource. One place to get these drawings is David Zimmerly's web site. http://www.arctickayaks.com/plans.htm But you aren't limited to ori ginal skin on frame designs for the boats you build. Pretty much any small boat design can be adapted to skin on frame construction. For instance, I built the canoe shown below using skin on frame construction. The originals of t his type was an Ojibway birch bark canoe. Or you can go small and ultralight and make yourself a 20 pound boat that you can hold up with one hand.

Image Notes 1. Once you've figured out how wood behaves by building the Greenland kayak, you can build any kind of boat up to 40 foot long using skin on frame construction. This one here is an Ojibway style canoe based on a birchbark original.

Image Notes 1. And you can't beat skin on frame for light weight. This ten foot play boat comes in at just over 20 pounds.

Image Notes 1. boy, this is one bad r eproduction, but you can get a good pdf at the Zimmerly website. Zimmerly has at least a dozen drawings of other kayaks on his website. Lots of construction details and ideas when you're ready to branch out beyond the Greenland kayak.

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Step 2: Nomenclature 2: Nomenclature Boat parts have names that you may not be familiar with. I will list them here so you don't have to wonder what I'm t alking about. See pictures below for what these boat parts look like. 1. gunwales - pronounced gunnels. Gunwales are the two boards that form the outside edge of the deck. 1a. Risers - Triangular pieces of wood doweled to the ends of the gunwales to create more upsweep of the deck at t he ends of the boat. See second picture at the bottom for an illustration. 2. keelson - This piece of wood r uns down the center of the bottom of the hull. It is called a keelson because it is inside t he skin. If it were outside of the skin it would be a keel. 3. hull stringers - also called chine stringers. These are long narrow pieces of wood that run parallel to the gunwales and halfway down the hull toward t he keelson. Their  job is to hold the skin off the ribs. 4. Rib - the r ibs are the main structural elements of the hull. Their shape determines the shape and beahvior of the hull. 5. Stem board - A board that connects the keelson to the gunwales at t he front of the boat. 5. Stern board - A board that connects the keelson to the gunwales at the back of the boat. 6. masik - this is the arched deck beam that supports the front of the cockpit. Some boats have a separate knee brace and masik and some boats combine both functions in one deck beam. 7. brace- -the the4th arched falls right behind caps and that paddling. you brace your knees against when paddling. 8. knee foot brace deckdeck beambeam from that the front that you restyour yourknee feet against when 9. Back brace - the deck beam that you rest your lower back against. It also supports the back of the cockpit coaming. 10. deck beams - boards that run f rom gunwale to gunwale to keep the gunwales at the proper distance from each other. 14. deck stringers - pairs of narrow boards that span the space between deck beams in fr ont and in back of the cockpit. They provide support for gear stowed on deck. Deck lines - these are pieces of r ope that cross the deck both in f ront and in back of the cockpit and allow you to store gear on the deck of the kayak.

Image Notes 1. riser, this one at the bow. Image Notes 1. The stem board 2. gunwale 3. keelson 4. hull stringer 5. ribs 6. masik or knee brace or deck beam 6

Image Notes 1. deck lines 2. cockpit. 3. coaming Image Notes 1. knee brace or deck beam 6

2. foot brace, or deck beam 4

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Image Notes 1. rear deck stringer 2. deck beam 7 or back brace 3. deck beam to gunwale lashing 4. rib to keelson lashing 5. 1/4 inch dowels

Step 3: Tools 3: Tools You will need relatively few tools to build a kayak. Although you can build a kayak entirely with hand tools, access to power tools makes the job go faster but is not essential. On the other hand, nowadays lots of power tools are cheaper than good hand tools. Your choice. Garage sales are a good source of wood working tools, especially hand tools. I have illustrated some of the less common tools below. Saw horses You will need two saw horses to build your boat on. Folding ones are easier to store, but you can make your own out of two by fours. Tape Measure Your tape measure should be at least 20 foot long. Though the common length seems to be 25 foot. Combination square You will need this tool for marking right angles. The edge of the flat bar is also handy for drawing straight lines. Drill and bits You will be drilling a fair number of holes. A battery operated drill is handy but an electric drill with a cord will work along with an extension cord to let you reach all parts of the boat. You can also use a hand dri ll if you can find one. You will need the following drill bits. 1/4 inch for drilling rib mortises if you are not using a router. 15/64 inch for drilling doweling holes for 1/4 inch dowels. 19/64 inch for drilling doweling holes for 5/16 inch dowels. Hammer You will need a claw hammer t o pound dowels into holes and to pull nails used to temporarily hold boat parts together. A light weight hammer with a 12 or 16 oz head is fine. You do not need a heavy carpenter's framing hammer for your boat. Block plane A block plane is used to smooth the edges of boards and also to round edges and shape pieces of wood. This small short plane can be used with one hand while the other hand holds on to the piece of wood. Bigger planes require two hands and are not nearly as useful Spoke shave Spoke shaves are handy for quickly rounding the sharp edges of boards. The are also useful for shaping curved deck beams. Clamps Some 2 inch spring clamps are handy for temporarily holding parts together. You can mail order these for about a dollar a piece. Two bar clamps with a 12 inch opening are handy for clamping stuff to your sawhorses so it doesn't move around while you are sawing or drilling on it. Knife You will need a knife for cutting string and dowels. It should be a knife with a f ixed blade. If it is a folding knife, the blade should lock. Folding knives without a blade lock are dangerous since they want to fold up on your fingers while you are using t hem. Hand saw You will need a hand saw to trim pieces of wood to length

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Table saw or circular saw You will need one of those for cutting wider boards into narrower boards. Table saws are fairly expensive and if you don't have one, don't buy one just to build one kayak. You should be able to find someone to do the cutting for you. If nothing else, check with your local high school. They usually have wood shops set up and might want to help you. A circular saw is much cheaper than a table saw and can be used to do t he same cuts as a table saw. This is a dangerous tool. If you've never used one before get someone to show you how to use it safely. If it gets j ammed, it kicks back and is liable t o wound you. Find out about kickback and avoid it. Rip saw A rip saw is a hand saw that is used to do long cuts along the length of a board. You can do everything you would do with a circular saw though more slowly and with less noise. They also take some practice before you can make straight cuts, but they don't require electricity. Jig Saw This is a pretty handy tool and can be used for cutting curved shapes such as your kayak bending form or the curved deck beams. Sewing needles You will need a straight and a curved needle for sewing on the skin. Curved needles are the same kind as used for upholstery. The straight needles are about 3 inches long and have a fairly large eye for heavy thread.

Image Notes 1. I got this block plane at a garage sale. This one is fairly simple. Some are fancier and have knobs for adjusting blade depth.

Image Notes 1. this clamp has a max j aw opening of 6 inches. 2. This clamp has a max jaw opening of 12 inches.

Image Notes 1. Chisels are like the poor person's router. They come in different width depending on what width trough that you want to dig in your wood. A 3/4 inch and quarter inch width are pictured here. These only work when sharp.

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Image Notes 1. table saw. Very dangerous. If you buy one, get one with a blade that has carbide tipped teeth. These are also noisy and you want to wear ear protection while using them.

 

Image Notes 1. you think I got enough curved needles? The size on these is such that they fit nicely in your palm and you can use your palm rather than your fingers to push them through the fabric. You can also use smaller curved needles though the big ones are easier to use. Image Notes 1. cordless drills are cool because you are not tripping over cords. They are also cool because you can use them one handed and use your other hand to hang on to the thing you're drilling. Hand drills take two hands to operate. The

downside of the cordless drills arereplacement the batteries. Once typically they go out themore dril l than becomes worthless and one new battery costs half of what the drill with two batteries and a charger cost originally.

Image Notes 1. jigsaws are handy for cutting curved lines. The base tilts so you can cut at an angle as well. The downside is that it cuts on the upstroke and pulls up sawdust and wood splinters which obscure the line that you are trying to cut to. So it's not a precision instrucment. There's not much curved line cutting on a kayak, so this saw is not real essential, but still handy to have.

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Image Notes 1. this is a Swedish sloyd knife and handy dandy plastic sheath. Swedes can carve everything from spoons to boats with one of these, though my uses for it are more limited.

 

Image Notes 1. This is a German curved sole spoke shave and is handy for shaping wood. Avoid cheap Chinese immitations. This is not a slam on the Chinese but rather on the people who have them manufactured overseas and don't do quality control. The problem with bad immitations is that the blade sits at the wrong angle and the sole is ground to t he wrong shape so instead of smoothly removing wood, that bad immitations gouge or tear at the wood.

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1. thepart combination square linesas at aboth a 90 edge and 45 angle. The ruler is detachable andcan candraw be used straight alldegree by itself.

Step 4: What's 4: What's next The next step is the preparation of the gunwales. This gunwales. This is a separate instructable, so click on the link to go there.

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 Mar 8, 2011. 10:33 AM REPLY  franztek73 says: Thanks for posting. I used your technique for shaping the gunwales on my kayak and it worked beautifully. Total cost for my Kayak was around $60 thanks to some freecycling.  armored bore says: After about three months and ~400$, mine is done!

 Dec 1, 2010. 3:20 PM REPLY

http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n461/julieandcandy/76986_1609303625744_1030 http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n461/julieandcandy/7698 6_1609303625744_1030826900_31648388_23632 826900_31648388_2363298_n.jpg 98_n.jpg I have to say this project is within reach of anyone who knows which end to hold a handsaw by. I can't wait to make another one!

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 nativewater says: Nice job. and it floats.have fun.

 Dec 2, 2010. 5:54 AM REPLY

 Sep 7, 2010. 9:26 AM REPLY  nativewater says: I don't have time to do a canoe instructable right now, but it's a good suggestion. You might also want t o search on the name Tim Anderson. He has an instructable on a skin on frame outrigger canoe.

 funkybassman105 says: Would you mind making an instructable for t hat canoe? I'd love to make one but I can't quite figure out how to skin it.

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 Sep 7, 2010. 9:24 AM REPLY  nativewater  says: The skin on open boats was usually stretched over the gunwales. A seam was necessary only at the bow and stern. The edges of the skin were laced to a batten attached to the ri bs on the inside of the boat. Leather laces were run through holes in the edge of the skin. Fabric works a little differently. You could tack it to the outside of the gunwale and trim it flush at the top, then screw or nail a batten to cover the tacks. This is how wood and canvas canoes were covered. In the canoe pictured, I attached the skin by putting grommets to the edge of it and lacing it to the batten on the inside of the hull. See here for some pictures: http://wolfgangbrinck.com/boats/tales/ojibwaycanoe.html  Aug 25, 2010. 2:08 PM REPLY  armored bore says: Aside from the bending portions for the gunwales and ribs, this looks very doable even f or an amateur like me! How hard do you suppose it would be to add a mount for a canopy? I'd love to make one for my wife, and that would be a great addition to protect her from the wrath of the Flame Orb (or "Sun" as it's popularly called)  Aug 30, 2010. 10:58 AM REPLY  nativewater says: adding a canopy mount wouldn't be that hard. But if you added a canopy to the boat, you would have to make the boat wider, probably thirty inches plus so the wind doesn't knock the boat over. or you might want to add an outri gger to the kayak or inside ballast. The Greenland kayak in its original configuration is relatively unstable so adding a canopy without modifying the basic design would be an invitation f or disaster. Keep in mind that a skin on frame kayak is very light and narrow compared to traditional wooden boats so adding any superstructure would raise the center of gravity to unstable heights.  May 25, 2010. 11:42 PM REPLY  starrydynamo says: My dad built one of t hese canoes; held up great until we scraped on a rock in a reservoir--thank god for duct tape! We've been talking about making a pair of kayaks, I will definitely keep this ible in mind! Thanks!

 May 29, 2010. 11:59 AM REPLY  nativewater says: modern materials are pretty tough. And duct tape is always a fallback. fallback. Skin on frame has its limitations, but but overall, very good technology. technology.

 Quiksilver2693 says: I don't like the idea of taking this through rapids.

 nativewater says:

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It's sea kayak.boats It's too ong forSkin rivers. want shortas plastic boat one thatSo turns easily. Butyou before there plastic boats,ri ver people used to takea fiberglass onl rivers. on You frame is ata least strong as for thatrapids, construction. theoretically, could buildwere a skin on frame kayak. But nobody bothers because plastic can take more abuse.  Sep 6, 2009. 5:30 AM REPLY  graeme.t.cooper says: Robert Morris also has some whitewater skin on frame kayaks. One of which, the alaskan retr ieval, I'm currently in the process of "skinning" using a thick canvas, instead the suggested 15 oz nylon.  Sep 6, 2009. 12:41 PM REPLY  nativewater says: Yeah, that's a nice little boat. I built one for my wife but she doesn't like that it turns on a dime and takes effort to keep going straight. Soon as I get a chance, I'm going to add a skeg to it so it tracks better. You can make one of these at about 20 pounds. Very easy to carry and accelerates quickly. Has no glide but will go up to 4.5 mph. 15 oz nylon seems like overkill. Does Morris really recommend that? I've been using 8 oz more recently since the heavier stuff tends to warp frames when it shrinks in hot weather. But if you do ri ver boating, heavier fabric might be good for beating the boat into rocks.  Sep 7, 2009. 3:54 PM REPLY  graeme.t.cooper says: ya, for the "canadian" canoe and the recovery/retrieval kayaks, he recommends the heavier nylon for rocks and branches and what-not. I have canvas kickin around, so I'm gonna be cheap and use that instead.

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 Sep 22, 2009. 1:20 PM REPLY  sean13 says: Hi there. Last year I built a retrieval kayak from the Morris book; I covered it in canvas, which makes for an abrasion-resistant skin after a few layers of polyurethane. I think you will find it very satisfactory. However, I've used 10oz nylon on a subsequent boat - and will likely continue with it as it is much easier to stretch and sew! It is not that much more expensive either.

 Quiksilver2693 says: That makes sense now. What type would be best for Lake Superior, rivers, and exploring small caves?

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 Mar 30, 2008. 8:09 AM REPLY  nativewater says: There isn't a single boat to do all things well. Generally, you would want a sea kayak for lake Superior and a whitewater kayak for rivers. But if the rivers are class I or class I I, you can handle them with a sea kayak. Conversely, people use white water kayaks for surfing big water. As for caves, I'm not sure what kind you mean. I 've been in the Sea caves around Pictured Rocks on Lake Superior i n a sea kayak. You just don't want to go in them when there are waves.

 Quiksilver2693 says: Okay. Thanks. =]

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 nativewater says: some people have. more comments on other pages. This thing comes i n 7 parts.

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 Jan 7, 2009. 7:36 PM REPLY  Kayakguy  says: Excellent guide on building such a beautiful Kayak. I am an avid kayak builder and put together my own site with information on different types of kayaks and how to build them. Kayaking is so much fun and its something I am really passionate about. Build Beautiful Kayaks Build Kayaks Build Beautiful Kayaks  Dec 10, 2008. 5:47 PM REPLY  camperken says: I built one of these about 10 years ago. Great experience and it was so quiet paddling in the lake I lived on at the time. Don't be afraid to try making one. Its  just one step at a time  Jan 7, 2008. 10:26 AM REPLY  sleahcim says: I would like to also add my appreciation for such a comprehensive guide on building the Greenland Kayak. You've ignited a fire (I understand this is a common occurrence for other builders as well) that will become a new passion of mine. I've already begun to assemble my materials and hope to have my first kayak built by spring. I've spent the last few days (countless hours) searching out other resources for building similar kayaks and found yours to be the most detailed, well explained and illustrated. And best of all it's free. I really appreciate all of the hard work you've done to put this together. Thanks a million.  Jun 5, 2008. 11:31 PM REPLY  AndrewTheImpaler says: i would write my own comment, but the above poster summarized my thoughts COMPLETELY. thank you so much for this. buying kayaks is for chumps lol

 trooperrick says: I second that.

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 Jul 21, 2008. 4:13 PM REPLY  skuthorp says: I'm looking at the lack of leg space forward and the small cockpit. I've already decided to adjust both and dome the deck somewhat forward to make life a little more comfortable. I'll build a boat with a flatter midships section for SWMBO as she's a novice at this but only 43 Kilos. I'll probably start her with sponsons till she get's used to it. I'm 75K but I'm used to a K1 and paddling a decked canoe in a seaway so the narrowness shouldn't worry me too much.  Apr 17, 2008. 4:15 PM REPLY  teamcoltra says: I don't want to "nit pick" but i just wanted to inform you there are 15 "names to know" you didn't give "risers" a number (its the second word) under nominclature. otherwise GREAT instructable... I hope to be able to do this one soon.

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 nativewater says: Thanks for pointing that out. I made it 1a. Too lazy to renumber everything.

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 May 5, 2008. 7:55 AM REPLY  nativewater says: Robert Morris has some details in his book called Skin-On-Frame Boatbuilding. See Amazon dot com http://www.amazon.com/Building-Skin-Frame-Robert-Morris/dp/0881791911/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1209999278&sr=8-1  May 5, 2008. 1:34 AM REPLY  cico0815  says: Hi! I'm going to build the "Guillemot Stitch and Glue Version" from Nick Schade as a Skin on Frame version but I really like your "HowTo"! Thanks a lot for it! What I also like to ask you is where to find a plan for that quite nice looking playboat shown in the picture! I think that would be nice for my son! :-) Best regards, Heiko  Chil says:  May 3, 2008. 10:14 AM REPLY Wolfgang, Great Instructable! I have been following your superb instructions and will soon be the proud owner of a complete skin over frame Kayak ( I started a week ago and am now r eady for step 6!). I shortened my frame by two feet and eliminated 2 deck beams (I have 9) but otherwise have followed your instructions closely. I had been researching this type of Kayak for a couple of months but still had some unanswered questions. You answered them ALL! Thanks for all your hard work. Jon

 Charlie1138 says: This is incredible! Thank you so much for sharing this!

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 Mar 20, 2008. 7:25 AM REPLY  osun says: This is fantastic and has made the process quite clear. Even though I have all the books on SOF building your pictures and words bri ng the process alive. My question is this: You size the boat for you: (6ft, 220lbs, size 12 feet) => so 21 to 22 wide How do you know that you will get enough "freeboard" and not a submarine? I am looking for around 2-2.5 inches of fr eeboard. Thanks for any help.  Mar 20, 2008. 8:49 AM REPLY  nativewater says: If you make the boat six inches wider than your hips and the depth described in the instructable, you will not get a submarine. Go to my website http://www.wolfgangbrinck.com/boats/  and  and check out the picture of three guys in kayaks. The guy in the middle weighs 300 pounds. Adequate freeboard. I think the beam on his boat was 23 inches.

 sardines454 says: this is incredible. did you come up with this idea on your own or did some one teach you?

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 Jan 9, 2008. 5:39 PM REPLY  nativewater says: I built my fir st Greenland kayak following sketchy instructions in a book I ordered from Denmark. Lots of details were missing so I had to do a lot of improvisation. Later I met some other people who built these kinds of boats and learned some additional tricks in addition t o what I had figured out on my own and gotten out of the book.

 dsetzer says:  Jan 1, 2008. 1:56 PM REPLY I just read through the set of Instructables... pretty much killed my last few hours (whoops). The only thing I'd really ask is for a comprehensive list of materials and tools collected into 1 place. Great job - I'm sure this took a tremendous amount of time to put together!

 nativewater says: Good suggestion re the comprehensive materials and tools list. I'll work on that.

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 Dec 25, 2007. 1:20 PM REPLY  Vidar_76 says: And by the way, its f un to see our swedish morakniv being used in America! :-) Now they make many other models but that one is the most usable knife.

 Dec 27, 2007. 6:33 AM REPLY  nativewater says: I bought that knife in the 70's and it's still going strong. I think there might be a moral in there. I think the moral is that if you buy good hand tools they last a lifetime. Actually, they will outlast you. Your relatives will be selling them at a garage sale when you die unless you teach someone else in your family how to use them.

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 Dec 25, 2007. 1:17 PM REPLY  Vidar_76 says: Really nice instructable! I build one two years ago, used cotton canvas and coloured lineseed oil. Spent about 120 hours and $150, im quite good at finding free or cheap stuff :-) Looking forward to se the rest of your instructable.  Dec 21, 2007. 4:56 AM REPLY  jodybaker  says: I built one of these using Bob Boucher's video "Build Your Own Sea Kayak." Beautiful boats, great to paddle and you should go out and build one. This looks like a great instructable. 100 hours and $300 seems a little optimistic, though. I spent way more time and a lot more money getting quality lumber, good canvas and I spent about 2 full weeks on it.

 ledzep567 says: really? how much did you spend on the canvas?? art stores carry it in roll s for around $40 USD

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 nativewater says:  Dec 21, 2007. 9:43 AM REPLY optimistic on the time, yeah, maybe. The first kayak I made was a Greenland type and I had very little guidance for how to do it. Took a total of 6 months for me to finish the boat. But they go faster now. It's a matter of coming to an understanding of wood and the building process and once you have that, the boats go together more or less effortlessly and time ceases to be an issue. As for expense, it depends on where you buy your supplies. I suppose you could pay more than $300, though I usually pay less.  Dec 21, 2007. 3:16 PM REPLY  kadris3 says: wow. excellent job. i've also heard of using aircraft dacron and canvas to make them. canvas took 10 coats of latex paint. it gave a rubberized fabric which was almost industructable. the hull has the traditional sea kayak curves. beautiful in my mind. X  Dec 20, 2007. 12:56 PM REPLY  callmeshane says: Hi I understand that there are "benefits and drawbacks" or "Pro's and Con's" to everything, - be it material and design. This is why aircraft fly high and fast and fall apart easily, and t anks are slow, don't fly but are fairly robust. The first kayak I ever bought was a plastic hulled step in design cockpit, made for touring lakes and all that, with easy access and exciting. 2 weeks later I did a solo 750Km trip down the river Murray in Australia..... (brilliant) Since I am quite adverse to the idea of skinned hulls t earing and sinking, wayyyyyyy out in the middle of the ocean... and bobbing around until I bob no more... The bonus of having a VERY light and strong boat appeals to me greatly. But having done much l eather work and all - t he ease of putting major rips in the hull on snags ummmm well I do I like some swimming, but not alot of swimming. I am quite interested in building said craft... but I'd like to go for a "skin" that is quite tear resistant - I'd like to use something like thin kevlar sail off cuts from a sail makers...... Do you know or can recomend any rip or tear resistant alternatives to skin? Cheers Shane Brilliant boats tho...  Dec 20, 2007. 5:04 PM REPLY  bryanhansel says: Most of these modern SOF kayaks use ballistic nylon, which if very durable. This is a fun and easy project. When I built one, I used Jr. Balli stic and never managed to put a hole in it.  Dec 20, 2007. 5:26 PM REPLY  nativewater says: Correct, as Bryan points out, the nylon is quite strong. 10 oz nylon i s strong enough that you can't drive a screwdriver through it. And if you're really worried, you can get higher weights, up to 23 oz. But with heavier nylon you would have to build a heavier fr ame because nylon shrinks out in the sun and will warp a light weight wooden frame. I haven't worked with kevlar, though I suspect that it has no stretch which is what makes it suitable for sails, but hard to get a tight fit on to a convex hull like a kayak. You would probably have to sew a lot of darts into the skin. Nylon is nice because it stretches and you can get a good tight fi t on the boat.

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