Is 8th House for Marriage or for Divorce in KP? by
[email protected] (courtesy of KPE-zine May 2009 issue, free download at http://kpastrologer.com ) 2,7,11 Houses for Marriage 1. In KP house 2 (family embers), 7 (legal bondage, spouse) and 11 (permanent tie of friendship and partnership in life) are to be judged for marriage, as explained in pages 109110 and 117 of KP Reader IV. This rule is generally followed by KP astrologers including C.R. Bhatt (Nakshatra Chintamani), K.M. Subramaniam (Sublord Speaks- 1 to 3), P.M. Shanmugam (Astrosecrets & KP Part I), Dr. K.R. Kar (KP & Astrology Year Books). 1,6,10,8,12 Houses for Divorce 2. As per KP Reader V page 176 (168 in Old Edition), significators of houses 2,7,11 are to be considered for marriage and the houses 6,12,10,8 are for divorce. (The 8th house may not give the desirable result of marriage. - KP Reader III, pp 51, 58, 114/ 1971 Edition pp 49, 55. 108) 3. The same is said in Astrosecrets & KP Part III page 11 that for marriage significators of houses 2,7,11 are beneficial; for divorce, 6,10,12 and 8 are beneficial; page 22, houses 1,6,10 and 8 are not favorable for marriage. 4. Separation from the partner due to disharmony or difference of opinion is to be considered by 1,6,10 houses only and 8 is also to be considered, if quarrel is involved. Finally to get divorce after long quarrel and fighting in court 1,6,10,8,12 houses are to be considered, as found in divorce cases of Further Light of Nakshatra Chintamani by C.R. Bhatt, and in Sublord Speaks- 1 to 3, 1,6,8,10,12 houses are detrimental for marriage and matrimonial life which may head towards divorce. Divorce with mutual consent is possible without 8 and 12 houses. (Umang Taneja: Marriage and Relationships) 5. Even Dr. Y.S.N. Murthty, who had said that 8 (house of sex) and 12 (bed comfort) are required for marriage and sexual pleasure (KP& Astrology 2001 pp 81-82), had considered 2,5,7 or 11 house for marriage and 1,12,4,6,8 or 10 house for separation (KP & Astrology 2001 pp 75-77). 8th House in Support of Divorce 6. Hence 8th house (quarrel, disappointment) is found in support of divorce but not in support of marriage although it does not negate marriage and not threaten separation from the partner. Other Views 7. However, some KP astrologers are of the view of that signification of houses 5 and 8 by the 7th cusp sub lord can also give marriage since 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to
7th. Considering 5th house for marriage in the case of love marriage is understandable. Among KP astrologers taking 5th house for marriage, Kousalya Sattainathan has said in her KP’s Astrology & Prime Ministers, page 6 that for marriage houses 1,7,5 and 11 are to be considered. If it is not a printing error of 1st house for house 2nd house, there is no way in KP to take 1st house (12th to 2nd) for marriage. Capable KP astrologers taking 8th house for marriage without signification of 2,7,11 are rare to find in the KP literature in English. 8. According to other theories, Four Step theory considers 5th house (11th to 7th) and 8th house (2nd to 7th) as supporting houses for marriage, in addition to 2,7,11 main houses; Cuspal Interlinks theory considers 5,7,11 houses for marriage and 2nd house is not taken as a house of danger and death to the 7th house; in System Approach (SA), 8th house is considered as one of many marriage significators. Promise of Marriage 9. The 7th cusp sub lord indicates whether marriage is promised or not. If marriage is promised, the required significators of DBA lords point the time of marriage when it agrees with transit. (KP Reader V p 21) 10. In judging whether marriage is promised or not, only 2,7,11 houses are preferable to consider. Basically marriage can be denied, if 7th cusp sub lord signifies only 1,6,10, 4 negative houses without signification of any of 2,7,11 marriage houses. As long as 7th cusp sub lord signifies any of marriage houses, marriage cannot be denied even though negative house are signified. And so marriage denial may not be judged effectively, if more houses other than 2,7,11 are considered for marriage. Timing of Marriage 11. In fixing timing of marriage (DBA), food for thought is that more houses other than 2,7,11 can be involved in all kinds of capacities depending on specific circumstances, for instance 5 for love marriage, love affairs, fulfillment of pleasure, 8 for sexual enjoyment, dowry, father’s expenditure for her wedding, 3,9 (3rd from 7th) for negotiation or contract for marriage, 12 for bed comfort, 3, 9 or 12 houses for a bride leaving her parents’ residence to join the bridegroom’s family in a far place or foreign country in the case of marriage to foreigner. 12. DBA is not applicable for events which are to happen in a day or two i.e. daily events. Analysis of DBA is essential for not only in fixing timing of marriage but also in judging marriage denial. Because promise of marriage cannot be materialized, if signifiors of Dasa lords are not fruitful for marriage during marriageable age of native. 13. The most commonly used Vimshottari dasa system of Maharishi Prashara is one of three pillars of KP for calculation of subs and forecasting system. James Braha has said that perhaps the greatest feature of Hindu astrology is the dasa system of prediction (Ancient Hindu Astrology for Modern Western Astrologer p 217).
Issue for Research 13. Regarding the DBA of prediction, an issue for research is how some events have taken place without signification of any required house by the DBA lords, their stars and subs as per house lordship and occupation. 14. General rules cannot not fit to each and every event of a natal chart. A cent percent accuracy in the astrological prediction would be possible, if and only if everything in one’s life is predestined at the moment of birth by past Karma. However, as a compromise, the results of one’s limited free will in this lifetime may not be denied within the fated effects present at birth through the planetary positions in his or natal chart according to past Karma. (see KP Reader II p 19) Muhurat may be helpful to get the desirable results of free will. Moreover, Horary or Ruling Planets also may not guarantee to all to be always helpful. Bottom Line 15. The bottom line is that 100% correct prediction cannot be given with the literature available and with the knowledge that we may gain by studying them alone. (KP Reader II p 46)
